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Time to Let Joe Go?

Posted: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:41 AM by Countdown

In an interview with TIME Magazine, former Democrat Joe Lieberman says officially switching to the Republican party remains a "remote possibility." In the meantime, he is relishing 'the leverage with both parties no matter how slim the chance of his crossing the aisle."
"Whatever Joe Lieberman Wants"

...with the Democrats' hold on power dependent on just one vote — in effect, his — and with Republicans courting him to tilt the balance in their favor, Lieberman has been indulging in some fairly immodest political footsie. Early this year he terrified fellow Democrats by skipping several of the weekly caucus lunches that cement party fidelity in the Senate. Recently he was spotted in the Republican cloakroom talking with South Carolina's Lindsey Graham about reforming Social Security. He even says he might vote Republican for President in 2008, a not-so-veiled hint that he would prefer John McCain, his fellow true believer in the Iraq war, to most, perhaps all, Democratic alternatives.

Lieberman says leaving the Democratic Party is a "very remote possibility." But even that slight ambiguity — and all his cross-aisle flirtation — has proved more than enough to position Lieberman as the Senate's one-man tipping point. If he were to jump ship, the ensuing shift of power to Republicans would scramble the politics of the war in Iraq, undercut the Democrats' national agenda and potentially weaken their hopes for the White House in 2008. Those stakes are high enough to give Lieberman leverage with both parties no matter how slim the chance of his crossing the aisle. Which means Senate leaders aren't worrying only about whether Joe Lieberman will switch parties. They're wondering what, if anything, he plans to do with the power that comes from keeping that possibility alive.

But is it time for the Democratic Party to rip the Band-Aid off once and for all, and let Joe Lieberman go?  Would losing their tenuous hold on the Senate really hurt the Dems' chances to take the White House in 2008? 

Or would making a statement to the voters who put them in power - that they are more committed to the ideals that got them elected than they are to holding power itself - work more in their favor heading into the next election cycle?

It's a high stakes gamble, but the American people didn't vote the Dems in in '06 so that they could compromise to keep the tiniest sliver of political power... did they?

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What I would like to know is what system is in place for the people of Connecticut to recall this chump, and how likely it would be to happen if he did switch sides. I haven't seen him supporting the Democrats in Congress as he promised to do, so he may as well be part of the republic party already.
My theory is that Lieberman will end up on a McCain ticket as VP again, if they scratch and claw to the nomination. Then, the Dems can't lose.
Your show is the best, Keith. You are always on at my home.

I agree with you regarding the old fart, Lieberman. Let him switch party. I am so freaking tired of seeing him recite the Bush-Iraq-Terrorist-Fight-There-Instead-Of-Here ****. I used to give him the benefit of the doubt a few years ago because I thought it was the Jewish-Israeli factor. But you know what, he should be an Ameican first, and should do what benefit our troops.
We cannot be running scared that he will side with the damn republicans. He votes with them regardless.
I understand that we can loose our leadership, but what is the advantage we have? We could not even pass a non-biding resolution! We would loose Chairmanship, but hell, we would retain our soul.

And you know the old fart has bad breath. Yikes! Sewer Mouth!
Wouldn't surprise me at all if he makes it official. As an independent voter, I would be as dissappointed as any Democrat.
Let him defect and be exposed for the liar and panderer that he has always been. The people of Connecticut should be ashamed of themselves for being taken in by Liarman. So long as the Democrats can filibuster any Bush Supreme Court nominee, it does not matter.
I think a politian getting elected representing one party, and then switching parties is a sleezeball thing to do. How self-centered and self-serving. The voting people of Connecticut should impeach him. And I agree, a McCain-Lieberman ticket would be sure victory for the Democrats - even if they ran the dog-catcher against them.
Joe Liebermann has been a Democrat in name only for a long time. Maybe it's time to end the charade. I refuse to get jerked around like this. If the Repugnican's get the majority, so be it. Then the total collapse of the Middle East and the gutting of our Constitution will be on their bloody hands. Then, if we don't clean house in 2008, it will serve each and every one of us right for being gullible, lazy, obsessed over Brittany's hair and "American Idol" instead of the good of our nation.
To Charles in Chambersburg: As senator is a Federal elected position, there is no means of recall at a state level. Joe will continue being Joe for the next 6 years, regardless of how well he's representing his state. The best hope is that it motivates the CT government or voters to push for a "sore loser" law, preventing someone who loses a primary from changing parties and running in the general.
Let him get real cozy with the White House. The dirt and corruption will rub onto him and then the Democrats can blackmail him. He will do what is needed for the country to stay out of jail. I've hated him ever since he helped scuttle Al Gore's election. I especially hated when the sanctimonious @#$ said that you could not be moral without religion thereby insulting the 20% or more of Americans who are not religious. It would be fun to see him run for Republican VP and be conceited enough to think he would get the evangelical vote.
Jason is correct, we in CT are stuck with him. The CT Secretary of State has already moved the filing date for petioning candidates up to before the primaries. When the primary dates were moved up to August they did not change the petioning date and Joe jumped on that like the lawyer he is. I will admit right here that I voted for him in the Dem primary but voted for Lamont in the General election. I did so because it was a scumbag move on Lieberman's part to run as an Independant after losing. Unfortunately Ned wasn't much of a candidate and got his head handed to him. Now Lieberman is acting like a loose cannon and I for one do not like it. We can only hope in '08 to get more senate seats and the White House. That would marginalize Lieberman and I believe the voters in CT will get rid of him in '12. Man that is a long way away!
The first time ever contributing to a campaign was to Ned Lamont. To be held hostage by the this SOB just makes my blood boils. He's been a mistake for the Dems since Al Gore picked him for the VIP spot. The price the democrats has to pay For Joe Lieberman is way to high.
Al Gore's biggest mistake. Anyone else and he would have won the electoral vote, Lieberman threw the election in favor of Bush. Connecticut independents were foolish to reelect him. However one clarification, the Senate committees are already drawn, the Dems have the majority til 2008. It doesn't matter if Lieberman switches parties. They should encourage him switch now, so they don't have him embarass the party further when he backs the GOP candidate.
So much for the Democrats' big tent. They are getting what they deserve for ditching him in the primary. They have proven that they can't be trusted (to support him), so why should they think they are entitled to any loyalty in return. The Independents and Republicans in Connecticut who elected him carried the day. What goes around comes around.
Joe Leiberman should be let go because he turned against his own party to join the Bush team i kind a figured he would become a jerk someday i felt it in my bones we democrats don't need him after all he's a traitor. P.S. he turned against his own voters to join the Bush's war games.
Gee, reminds me of the tongue lashing the democrats gave Jim Jeffords for switching to their party.
Leiberman lost the Democratic primary because he's no longer a Democrat. He was elected by CT Republicans. So, yes, Keith, you are correct. Let him go and good riddance.
Go already, JOE. You've been Republican for such a long time that it's really stupid of the Democrats to try to hold on to you and the supposed majority you allow in name only.
Just out of curiosity, for those who wretch at the thought of Joe switching and think it is the height of evil and "pandering" to do so, do you hold the same opinion about Jim (Jeffords), the VT senator that left the Rep. party to throw control of the Senate over the Dems a few years back? Or is that "different" because well...insert you favorite rationalization here. Your answer will determine whether you have a real independent mind are are just another overly-partisan political hack blindly follwing a party. We already have plenty of those in all political flavors. The end always justifies the menas in some people's minds...
Why do democrats think that they own Sen Lieberman. He ran as an independent and was elected because Republicans voted for him. You guys are a bunch of collectivist idiots
Let him go, PLEASE, he is and has repeatedly shown himself to be a good Republican and holding on to him and the mythical majority he gives is only on paper. Then when his re-election time comes around he won't be able to fool so many in his home state. WE CAN WAIT FOR THAT DAY. It's coming sooner than Joe thinks.
His defection to the GOP would be a mixed blessing for that party. Sure the Senate would tip back, but then the President would no longer be able to label something "bipartisan" when Lieberman, a nominal Democrat, agrees with him on an issue.
Didnt the people of Connecticut elect him for what he stands for and not what party he is affiliated with? Maybe we can swap McCain for Lieberman since John is a Dem anyway.
Well, I would rather let him go than have the Dems kiss his butt the next 2 years. Nothing gets done in the Senate unless you have 60 votes anyway. Let the GOP have the senate - it will make it even clearer to the voters in 2008 how bad the GOP is...
To J. Simmons "I think a politian getting elected representing one party, and then switching parties is a sleezeball thing to do." Joe Lieberman did not run for a particular party in 2006, he ran as an independant. Would you have the same reaction if he re-joined the Democratice Party? Probably not.
He has morphed from a Republican in Democrat's clothing to a Democrat in Republican's clothing. I guess the Connecticutt Fashion Police didn't notice the change in his style and voted him in as Independent. Independent means you do what you want to do not matter what the consequences and no matter who you run over. It is often confused with the term "free thinker"
I guess the fact that his Democrat friends abandoned him during the election means nothing? At least he has the backbone to stand up for his principles, which is more than most of the Democrats will do. Your party's been taken over by your radical liberal wing and they will take you over the cliff with or without Joe. He's welcome to come on over to our side if he wants.
Lieberman has become Zell Miller, remember the former "Democratic" senator from Georgia who spoke at the 2004 Republican convension. I say the Democratic party should boot Lieberman's ass out. When you listen to him talk about Iraq, he sounds as if he is part of the Bush administration. Even if it means loosing control of the senate, send him to where he belongs. The Dems should be able to get a stronger hold on the senate in 08.
It would be nice if we could just ditch the two party system. Have people run on there on values and have to bend to the party line. Then we wouldn't have to worry about Joe switching sides. He would just be Joe
Contrary to all the previous vicious diatribes against a very honest person like Joe Lieberman,I am verysupportive of him and respect him even more when he faces such disgusting commentary from the sanctimonious and supposedly fair minded "liberal" community.
None of this makes any difference. The democrats would be weak even if they had a large majority. The Republicans always go for the throat, the Democrats always reach across the isle. With or without Joe Lieberman, they will still always draw back a bloody stump.
As far as I am concerned MR. LIE-MAN is a @#$%^&* coward and a go@#$%^&*ed hypocritye. I am tired of this party pandering to him. We did not work our butts off in the last election to have this sanctimonious, arrogant piece of excrement undermine us at every opportunity. Like the President he is ultimately convinced of his own superiority, and like the President he is ultimately delusional. Let him leave the party and finally expose himself for what he really is.
The Bush presidency is a sinking ship. If Joe wants to sink along with Bush and the GOP, then so be it. If Lieberman switched to the GOP, the Dems would likely make up the loss and then some in 2008. Love your show Keith!
Lieberman's tenuous affiliation with the Democratic caucus is actually hindering their ability to confront the Bush Administration as Senator Reid must placate Joe's right-wing demands. I would expect the Dems to push as much of their agenda with Joe as possible into the summer and then let him go his way so they can come out swinging at Bush, McCain, Giuliani and the neo-conservatives. It will cost them the majority, but will enable them to hammer Bush. Criminal proceedings on Cheney could also be underway with Plamegate. 21 of the 33 Senate races in '08 are Republican seats. Those Senators will be hard pressed to continue support for Bush's Iraq War and hope for re-election. Give Joe his rope and let him vote Republican.
Wow. Typical ad hominem attacks. Follow along: Leiberman was elected as an independent. The Dems in Connecticut rejected him. I can't believe the conversations that people have here. Jason in Socal wants to restrict someone from running for office? In America? Wow.
I bet a lot of people in Ct. feel like the people who voted for bush the second time and then regretted it sooooooo much.
This is the joke of our political system right here in these comments. These people are one issue clowns that will bring down their party. You may not agree with Liberman but he ran on his vote and what he was going to do. There was no bate and switch. So who do you throw over next that does not agree with every issue of your party. Do you throw out Casey because he is pro-life, do you throw out Webb because he is pro-life. If your the Olberwoman party of the left has such courage vote to cut funding on the war right now and see who stands where. Keith will be talking to just these view clowns then because then did not run on cutting funds or pulling out the troops.
Just feel the hate here, is this politics? We need to be finding ways to find victory and secure the situation in Iraq not just spew your obvious hate. I wish you guys were as interested in winning as you are in hating republicans.
National agenda? The Dems have a national agenda? the only thing I've heard from the Dems for the last few years is Bush bashing anti war rhetoric. It dosent matter what Lieberman does. If the Democrats dont put forth some solid ideas on immigration, health care, taxes and homeland security. They'll quickly find themselves in the minority again. Perhaps this time for good.
Who would represent the Zell Miller wing if he leaves?
Let Lieberman go and shame on the 30% of Democrats who voted to reelect him to the Senate in CT! For those who didn't understand how the Senate works, they now see that nothing of importance gets done without 60 votes. Losing Lieberman on this issue changes absolutely nothing. He is not movable on Iraq and is completely out of sync with the entire Democratic caucus. By dumping him, he immediately loses any "power" he thinks he has and the Dems hand back the burden of the catastrophe of Iraq to the Republicans, who have far more Senate members up for reelection in 2008. It's a win-win for the Democrats who will get nothing of major importance done until they can count on 60 Senate votes. Right now they are short by 4-5. Plus, there remains the Oval Office which also must change hands to hold off assured vetos on anything having to do with Iraq.
Senator Lieberman has become obsessed with his own importance. I wish the Democrats had the courage to tell him to get lost, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
Don't get all hung up on party affiliations. Joe is a chameleon, and he has been forever. I am from Connecticut, but really wish that he was from somewhere else. And then we have Chris Dodd...enough said. Anyone silly enough to vote for either of them deserves whatever they get.
Lest we forget who abandoned who in the 06 mid terms. Lieberman has been treated like dirt by his party and has every right to be upset and feel betrayed. But also don't forget that his main ideological values still rest with the democratic party, which makes it unlikely that he would switch to the republican party, but with the nonsensical rhetoric and seemingly complete lack of understanding and consistant political inconsistancy, anything is possible in liberal ideology land.
Keith.....yours is the best news show on TV. PERIOD. Wanna' know how I know? Because I'm driving home from work two weeks ago on a Friday night and Mark Levine was ripping you on his vitriolic, hate filled, fear mongering, homophobic, misogynistic, and falsely patriotic nightly radio broadcast on ABC out of New York. You're getting to them Keith, DON'T LET UP!
it would be interesting to know what Gore would say now about his former running-mate. Choosing this phony man to run with him might have cost him the presidency and Gore has no one to blame but himself.
I say we trade Joe for Chuck Hagel, a decorated vet who has no business being a republican anyway. If they're not willing to give up Hagel, how about a Senator to be named later? Joe Lieberman is a fraud that can't addmit to being wrong and contnues to lie to the American people, sounds to me like that's a right winger to me.
What, exactly, is wrong with a sentient person changing hie or her mind on an issue. Does "staying the course" translate into "ignoring the reality" on a permanent basis? Elected officials in this republic are NOT governining Swiss Cantons. They are our representatives and are entrusted -- by dint of their election BY US -- to exercise their best judgement. Shame on us that we seem so often to overlook the very nature of representative democracy. Note, please, that it is not -- and never, one hopes, shall be -- unanimous democracy. The Republic is strong enough to withstand dissent.
I want Sentor Joe Liebermann to cross over to the Republican party.This will give the Democrats a better chance in wining in'08. Who needs one that challenges one's own party.
i said it then and i'm saying it now...joe liarman was, is and will always be a wolf in sheep's clothing. The very demeanor of liarman speaks volumes about this republican-at-heart Con man from the great state of CT. One does not have to be a genious to realise that the gray/navy blue suit with red Tie and blue shirt with an american lapel pin means and almost always signifies someone who believes in repugs' values! this is a standard uniform for the neo-con...err...neo-nazis...errr.Musolini. Kinda ironic though seeing that liarman being a Jew believes in erecting walls and refugee camps...errr internment camps in Palastine. Anyhoo...what's done is done...and i feel like its a neverending nightmare...people somewhere and somehow in american give in to pandering and elect the un-electables...way to go CT thanks for electing a republican in the senate please next time use your minds and open your eyes to what is hidden!!!
Sounds like dear old Joey wasn't getting enough air time to suit that itty bitty ego of his. He's only got until '08 to matter at all and he'll dance naked down the senate aisles to be the in the headlines.


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