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You Can't Handle the Truth

Posted: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:15 AM by Countdown

Some of what we're working on for tonight...



On "The West Wing," Countdown's favorite alternate universe administration, Toby Ziegler once admitted to giving Jed Bartlett advice like: "I told him that, if asked about it tonight, he should -- if only because it's the easiest thing to remember -- tell the truth." Yet in the current couldn't-be-more-real Bush Administration, it seems Attorney General Gonzales finds remembering the truth anything but easy. The AG is now hard at work cramming for his Senate hearing... "spending hours practicing testimony" with "three days of rigorous mock testimony sessions next week." Who knew the truth could be such a burden?

OUTFOXED? That Swift Boat to Belgium could sink. According to the Washington Post, President Bush's recess appointment of Swift Boat checkbook man Sam Fox as Ambassador to Belgium could be illegal. "To fight the Fox appointment, Democrats are questioning the Bush administration's plan to have Fox serve in a voluntary capacity -- receiving no pay for his duties as ambassador. This is an important legal technicality, as federal law prohibits "payment of services" for certain recess appointments. However, if the recess appointee in question agrees that he or she will take an unpaid position and not sue the government at a later date for compensation, then the appointment can go forward, at least as the White House sees it.

"But here's the rub that makes Democrats view Bush's recess appointment of Fox as a major-league no-no: Federal law prohibits "voluntary service" in cases where the position in question has a fixed rate of pay, as an ambassadorship does. That's how the Government Accountability Office, an arm of the Democratic-controlled Congress, interprets the law."

SUN STROKE It's the New York newspaper everyone kind of knows about, in the abstract, but never actually reads. Today we learned why. The New York Sun, in an editorial, suggests that the solution to the White House's problems would be -- wait for it -- a Cheney bid for president. The Sun imagining that "were Mr. Cheney in the race, it's hard to imagine that the president's approval ratings would not be five or 10 points higher." If the Sun had looked at Mr. Cheney's poll numbers, which are in fact lower than the president's, it would probably agree it's best for the the Veep to keep lurking in the shrubs.

OUTFOXED II And then there's this fun video of that famous FOX polling in action...

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They serve at the will of the president? – he who supposedly serves at the will of the people… Oh damn. My head just exploded again. --- Shame upon shame. They are rewarding the swift boat crews. What would Jesus do Mr. bush? --- May we please have some real discussion at how successful this theocracy experiment was for our nation?
Gonzalez is practicing to lie his ass off and make it look good. I damn well better hear some senators yelling at him!
Yeah, what part of Exodus 20:16 George Bush dosen't understand. I wonder how the Belgians feel about this appointment. They should consider this appointment an insult.
So the way to convince the public the war in Iraq has been and is worth fighting, the democratic congress is a do nothing anti-troop cabal, the lesson of 9/11 is that the executive branch should control the congress and judiciary, and that the Bush administration has only the most qualified persons in positions of power is to make the republican nominee the Haunter of the Shrubbery? Does the New York Sun know its a bit late for an April fools joke?
Was that NY Sun piece printed on Sunday, Apr 1?
"Would you believe a ham on rye was the reason behind the firing of the eight US attorneys?", or so a quote from a Don Addams Agent 86 subplot might just help in the erstwhile ongoings of a beleaguered Attorney General's position. It can't hurt!
That seems like alot of work for just saying "I don't recall...."
Cheney for President? He could run with Duncan Hunter on the "Drunken Hunter/Duncan Hunter" ticket.
"...rigorous mock testimony"? I guess that goes along with a "rigorous mock Presidency".
Yes JW. They are rewarding the swift boat crew members at the end as the ship is sinking. I suppose Bush felt he better hurry up and get this guy a job somewhere. Most likely Fox can't find a job anywhere else. I mean, he would have to place on his job applications where it ask for Veteran Status a "Yes" in the section that asks if you have ever degraded your veteran status and all veterans by viciously attacking the service record of another veteran. And Carole of Utah, one could not have put it better. When Belgium hears the controversy over this they will quietly communicate to the Bush administration to please appoint another Ambassador. Mark my words.
Ok, let me see if I get this straight. The President pulls Fox from the nominee list because there is no way on earth he would get confirmed and then chids congress for recessing before sending him a bill that he likes. But while they are on break the President makes this swift boat assassin an ambassador. Makes perfect sense to me. All cheer King George!!!! Would you like your cake while you eat it too, sir?
So tell me NY Sun. Getting the approval rating of a lame duck president higher is good for the country in what way? Could the news sometimes be about what is good for americans and country instead of being all about what is good for the president and the white house. Please just once put your best brains to work advising the white house on how to help us.
I've sworn off Republicans for 20 years. This current batch has poisoned the party. I'd rather have my taxes go up than sink the nation into moral and economic debt with un-needed honorless wars. I hope Gonzalez gets torn a new one by the Senate. The Supreme Court has already castigated him for his BS arguments...I can't wait to see some Senators slap him arround like a trailer-park wife!
Hey, Countdown staff - are there any plans to run Mike Taibbi's piece on his ride-along in Iraq?
Sean of torrington, CT, as a former trailer-park wife who was physically abused many times by a now dead alcoholic ex-husband, I hope you get the s...t kicked out of you tonight by your wife, even if you live in a McMansion. And if you are only now realizing that the republicans have pretty much run this country off of a cliff then you have been in hibernation for the last 6 years.
Given all the labels thrown at John Kerry during the last campaign, could we now refer to Ambassador Fox as "The Belgian Waffler"?
Dick Cheney for President? How can I get a work visa for Canada?
Never Forget Berto broke Bush family value #1 Don't leave a paper trail! Never forget its not that the bushies are more evil and corrupt than you suppose. They are more evil and corrupt than you can suppose!
Wonderful interpretation of polling data once again by the Fool and (un)Balanced Fox network. Was that drum roll the two anchors knocking on their empty heads? Why show the graphic if you're going to contradict yourself with it? I think the only person who could give "dubya" a run for his money in the foolish derby would be Rupert Murdoch. Can't believe he wasn't on the list.
Mark Twain said it best: "These people would lie for a dollar when they could get a dollar and a half for telling the truth." It will be the supreme achievement of Republican mendacity machine if they can take every contradictory statement out of Gonzales' mouth and make it sound like they were all true at the time, and if they can get Gonzales to memorize all of his lines.
Exactly how hard do you need to practice when telling the truth?
Pardon me? long days "rehearsing" his testimony? if he wanted training in robotic mantra like repitition, they needed to look no further than Scott McClellan (sp). In reality, this is all weirdly reminiscent of Eugene McCarthy's comment when told George Romney claimed to have been "brain-washed" about Vietnam--"..in truth, a gentle rinse would do it.."
Better practice 'cause the dems aern't looking for the truth. They only want to twist and turn the questioning so it appears you are giving conflicting answers, maybe looking for perjury ? How in the world can Kennedy sit on judicial committee having committed murder ? Please ! Another example, you guys are chastising Fox for donating to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, for telling the truth about kerry's supposed VN heroism. Again, maybe the senate committee should practice a little telling the truth.
I see that 3 US attorneys resigned here in Minnesota, apparently after a visit from officials in Washington. I don't know if it has anything to do with the other US attorney forced resignations, but it might be worth looking into.
Larry: I'll agree with you on Kennedy. There should have been an investigation and charges against Kennedy in the death of that girl. He got away with this because he was a Kennedy. No doubt. But I will repeat what I had said earlier about Fox. Being a three tour VN Vet any other vet who at the time of this conflict had viciously attacked another vet's service whether based on any substance or not would have been fragged and left for the vc to finish off. The fact that Kerry was there and served is good enough for me and most all other vets. The few like Fox who have turned on a comrade no matter that person's service level should have been left behind instead of those who died watching the backs of "all" their buddies, including Kerry. And if able to poll, I have no doubt that the buddies I left behind there would vote to tar and feather Fox and his cronies.
Larry Kerry's so salled heroism in Nam is legit and real. It is the swift boaters who wre spreading lies about Kerry's service record. None of the swift boaters were ever actually shipmates of Kerry. One of the swift boaters a physician who saw Kerry's leg wound as superficial never truly examined it and is not I repeat NOT the physician of record. Hey atleast Kerry was "in the shit" and not assigned to a "champagne unit" in the Texas Air National Guard. Kerry served his time and VOLUNTEERED for combat. Goergieboy walked away from his commitment to Uncle Sam. However he did make sure that no VC ever attacked Texas
karolyn k, I've been protesting Bush and company since 2002. You wish harm on me? I wish harm on you. I hope your daughters grow up and marry abusive men just like your ex, and the cycle continues. Get over yourself, and get off my back.
Tom Y,MN- "3 US Attorneys resigned here in Minnesota" "worth looking into"- My first thought after the news broke of the firings, was...If these guys/gals weren't "pleasuring" bush, then maybe we should be looking at all who still had jobs, and check into just what "they" "were" doing that "pleasured" bush. I'm sure the WH is hoping that this hasn't crossed anyone's mind. Could it be that they're all jumping ship and trying to fade back into the woodwork? Wonder how many more will follow suit? Would love to know all the "pleasures" they've been performing that saved "their" jobs. Do anymore of you know of rats jumping the ship in your states?
The AG has been the President's legal counsel. I thought the AG was there to serve us.
This just in!! And OF COURSE, on a "Typical George W. Bush Friday/Easter Weekend/No One Will Pay Attention Day" news release!! They are dropping like flies!! C A - Let's start our revolution immediately while the weak are getting weaker!! "Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' top aide, who refused to testify before Congress about her role in the politically charged firing of eight U.S. attorneys, abruptly quit her job Friday." In her words, "I am hereby submitting my resignation to the office of attorney general," Monica M. Goodling said in a three-sentence letter. There was no immediate reason given for her departure, but Goodling's refusal to face Congress intensified a controversy that threatens Gonzales' job." Ok, if ANYONE disputes the DOJ and the Administration were not in this together, or disputes this Administration's attempts to circumvent the election process via using the DOJ to prosecute or not prosecute, you are either a.) Recovering from a six-year stupor, or b.) In coma. Also, please do not whine here!! Please go cry your tears of lies with Sean Hannity, Doctor Shopper Rush, Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter and John Gibson!! I think now would be a good time to look into airfares to The Hague. This Administration is in the same shape as my afghan, knitted by my great grandmother more than 110 years ago!!
Pam B- Administration is like your 110 year old afghan. I have an afghan like that, and I agree with your analogy. Fading, full of holes, loose ends and unraveling. Not "warm and fuzzy" anymore, are they?
ZW - Not at all!! You hit the nail on the head my friend!!
Makes the congressional decision to impeach the last president for lying about a "flagrante delicto" absurd by comparison. Why aren't any of these losers being impeached as we speak? Hasn't enough harm come to America yet? How much more of this nonsense should we tolerate? No wonder the world opinion is that we Americans are gutless and soft. Shame on those Bushies and those who tolerate them. How ironic, it wasn't five years ago that Bush claimed that supporters of terrorists are no better than the terrorists themselves. Sounds familiar,eh?
Good one, Steve Turner. "Drunken Hunter/Duncan Hunter ticket." You're the man. I always like your posts because you see humor in things. If we didn't laugh sometimes, we'd be crying. This country has gotten into such a mess with this administration.
ANTHONY, I know everyone on this site can't be this stupid. The reason the former president was impeached was because he committed a crime. Firing attorneys is not a crime, but a perogative. Do you think Pelosi's botched visit to Syria made us look stonger in the world's eyes? What A joke ! This is an open invitation to everyone here. Please state what the next step ypu would take when the troops leave and mass killings begin. Hopefully you will stand up and take responsibility for your decisions. Someone here with some sense please tell me how you see the Iraq issue coming to a conclusion and what you see happening to the Iraqui people
Larry - SC: The Iraq conflict will end for the US when the next President (a democrat) pulls out our troops. We will leave behind materials and military hardware worth millions and George Bush will have sacraficed thousands of American lives. The conclusion for the Iraqi people is going to take much longer due to the fissures in Iraq society caused by this administration with the invasion of Iraq. Most likely, civil strife will continue until the current Iraq president has had enough and resigns. Then a person like the cleric Muqtada al-Sadr will take the reins away from the current US backed qusai government and establishes a religious run government not unlike that in Iran. The Shiite majority will be supported by Iran resulting in a strong relationship between these two countries. Initially, the US will not support (from a distance) nor establish diplomatic ties with this new order in Iraq, but after a few years will once again be looking to re-open diplomatic relationships because of our need for oil. Iran will continue to work towards a nuclear aresenal until Isreal blows their nuclear facilities off the face of the earth. Iran and Iraq will rant and rave but will do little else but perhaps blow up more buses in Isreal as they will not be able to compete with Isreal militarily. The US will go on supporting and funding dictatorships as long as it serves our purposes economically and then turn on them and even possibly invade their country when another republican president is elected who thinks it is his destiny to change the face of the world. I imagine when that occurs we will see ourselves getting into a similar mess somewhere in South America. Once again, this republican president will leave office a defeated person and a new democratic president will once again get us out of the mess in South America. After that, history will repeat itself until we realize we have ignored the Chinese too long, they become the worlds greatest super-power, and the US begins to take a back seat for quite some time to come.
C A, Your response to Larry does nothing more than make his point. In your rambling response you had a wide open opportunity to explain how a Dem. Prez would fix the problem in Iraq and that plan could not be found except for the cut and run plan that John Kerry and so many othe Dems are in favor of. You people are dangerous and should not have any power in this country untill you can look after American interests like FDR, JFK, and Truman did.
Mike: My response to Larry was not in support of any party or administration. It was not a political response. It was not an opinion of what we should or should not do. Larry asked what was going to happen and I simply related to him what was going to happen right or wrong. It does not help Larry to make his point which I assume is that we stay in Iraq. And it does not necessarily support leaving Iraq. It simply predicts what is going to happen and is based on history repeating itself which is a pretty good indicator of the future. Do you have a prediction Mike? Let's here it or are you too worried about making people's points to make a preduction. And if you think I ramble then don't read my post. Thanks
Can't fix it. The only way to win in Iraq is to go back in time and not invade. All the generals who knew this truth were fired or resigned back then. What a shame. Now all we can do is leave. How dare you look at the Democrats and blame them for not presenting a solution to the mess in Iraq? It was a Republican majority congress that voted for war, and supported the 'stay the course' idiocy. In this case, the Democrats are the lesser of two evils. I'd rather pay more taxes than be responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents.


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