Thank you Russell. Logic and fact are always best in any debate. I've spent a lot of time studying terrorism of late trying to not only understand it, but to finish up my Masters. I try to put that knowledge into use with what I write. Of late, I have concidered getting into politics so that I can put this knowledge to good use.

Mr. Olbermann you just talk too much. Your diatribe against Mayor Guiliani was ridiculous. It did not make any sense at all. It was a poisonous attack, without substance. I am not a Bush fan, nor a Guiliani fan, but I despise people who take their eyes off the ball, and use Republicans as their one and only subject and enemy, and I am not a Republican. You cannot get it into your head that we are despised by many in other countries. They blew up our Marines in Lebanon under Reagan, our Embassies in Africa during Clinton's time, and certainly Bush did not help with his Iraq adventure for sure, but your constant attack on Bush has made your hour utterly boring and dull. The Allies and many in America said in the l930's "One Can Do Business With Mr. Hitler". They ignored his speeches, his book "Mein Kampf", and were more interested in making money when he rearmed, than in any danger signs,and millions perished. To make believe that one can reason with Iran, Syria and other Fascists of their ilk, is assinine, and I am afraid that Heraclitus' proverb "Much Knowledge Does Not Teach Wisdom" points directly at you and your one sided, unfair diatribes. I am an Independent Voter, and am waiting for Mayor Bloomberg to run as an Independent. If he does, I will say in all sincerity a pest on both of your houses, Repulicans and Democrats. I do not expect Governor Richardson of NM to be nominated by the Democrats, he would be another choice, so my curse on both parties remains.

Russell in Maryland - Thank you very much for the compliment. I have studied politics since the early age of eight years old, when I "worked" my first campaign. My father always taught my three sisters and me that it is "we the people" who are responsible for ensuring the laws of our land, our Constitution and our civil liberties, created by our forefathers, never diminish, never erode and are never violated. George W. Bush and his Administration have raped all of the above. Even as an eight-year-old girl, walking precincts and distributing pamphlets and literature, I understood the importance of what I was doing; if only through my father’s eyes, through my father’s words, and most definitely by his actions. He “walked his talk”!! May he rest in peace. Also, Brudgette, KUDOS to you!! You are right on target!! Thanks for sharing your brilliant insight!!

Concerning the comments made by Mr. Giuliani “If any Republican is elected president — and I think obviously I would be best at this — we will remain on offense and will anticipate what (the terrorists) will do and try to stop them before they do it.” Question after two attacks on the World Trade Building before 9/11... where was his offense to prevent the further acts against the World Trade Building and other structures in New York; where was his plan (counterterrorism plan) if the terrorist had succeeded ... Meaning he (Giuliani) had two occasions to prepare the city/military to react to any future attacks by terrorist within the air space and ground of New York. The Republican Party had proposed to turn over the Department of Homeland Security to Bernard Kerik.... did the former Mayor of New York make an attempt to “...hide Kerik’s organized crime allegations...” something to make me wonder ...I for one do-not understand why Giuliani would threaten Americans with the claim... that the election of any Democrat would mean the country would be “back ... on defense,” Mr. Giuliani continued: “But the question is how long will it take and how many casualties will we have. If, we are on defense, we will have more losses and it will go on longer.” Mr. Giuliani wants the public to forget that that the now President George Bush was after a Dictator and his soldiers found this bad man dictator and we are still in the Dictator’s neighborhood. Giuliani comments were not warning, but harassment — that is “substituted for the political discourse”. Olbermann your face reflected your disgust with ignorant mongers ...and I thank you! And I agree with you...I saw the sweat on your face and felt you meant your response... We do however need to send most of our political representatives to repeat 20th Century American History - for most of them are damning us to repeat our shameful past. Oh before I forget Giuliani (just in case he is reading this blog)keep your voice directed to what makes sense for sir there are not too many people that are willing to let you pull the wool over there eyes...

Bridgette-thank ye for being here! Oh how I wish I were as articulate as you-seriously. I'm waiting for the 'facts' against you to be presented-those ought to be good. BTW, what's happening with that fire down there? You all have a serious case of southern California wild fire going.

Um Pam, I'm wondering if my Dad didn't lead a double life, as it seems like we had the same one.:) I'm a Long Beach native, Catholic Democrat. Hmmmm! My Dad died September of 1990. If there was to be a happy 'closure' to losing our Dad, it was that my brother Willie, who was deployed with 82nd Airborne for Desert Shield/Storm, came home on emergency leave for the funeral (and saw his wife and family again). Bless his heart, my nephew Cory was born the following nearly 10 months later (wink/wink). Yes, he has his grandfather's name for a his middle name.

Thanx, Bridgette, I'll check it out. If I may also recommend a book, take a look at "The Great War for Civilisation" by Robert Fisk. He's a British journalist (hence the British spelling), and it's a very long and comprehensive book. Took me a while to get through it, but I found it to be a fascinating, yet disturbing, read.

Pammie, Clinton's IQ was in his pants, where he should have kept it. If he was so intelligent, why did he sexually harass women over and over and over again. Why did he commit perjury as president of the US ? Why did he hire Janet Reno and Madaline Albright ? Obviously you can be a complete freaking idiot with a high IQ. Just for fun , can you please give me the IQ of Ted Kennedy ? How about John Kerry ? How about the magnificient 8 that will be debating tonight ? How about your IQ ? You can't be the smartest woman in the world or even the second smartest, those are already taken by Hillary and Teresa Kerry.

C'mon Larry: You were doing so well. Stating your positions to agree or disagree without personal attacks. Now you are taking two steps backward from the one step forward you had taken. Asking for people's IQs including Pams. No one knows these people's IQs especially when you don't identify the testing tool you want to see the results from. There is the Weschler Intelligence Scale for Adults but there are other testing methods out there as well. Which testing method do you prefer as most valid? Then you have the Weschler Intelligence Scale for Children. That's the one they used for GW (had to get that one in there Larry). I'm not sure IQ had anything to do with Clinton's sexual liaisons. Well, maybe with Paula Jones. But Flowers and Lewenski both looked rather inviting and sumptuous to me. I'd say a guy had to be pretty smart and suave to get it on with those two. And in all these instances Larry I'm not so sure harassment occurred. I mean Flowers and Lewenski were obviusly willing partners. As far as Jones she most likely was as well but saw dollar signs afterwards. And Larry, you know Pam is smart. If she were as dumb as a doorknob you wouldn't be giving her the time of day now would you. It's the smart and passionate ones we have to watch out for and that scare us males at times, so I know that's why you constantly attack Pam. C'mon Larry, take that step forward again.

Methinks Larry has a problem with strong, smart, assertive women.

Brigette-Confusing.How does a ''struggling''al Qaeda succeed in launching no fewer than four successful attacks against the US during the 1990s,and invest in the taking over of an entire nation[Afghanistan],during the same period?Apparently,not enough of the right guys were being arrested under Clintons watch.The idea that terrorist groups ''tear themselves apart''with the absence of an external enemy is dubious at best.The Islamic Brotherhood,from which sprang HAMAS,has a history that extends back to the 1920s when it fought against Great Britain and France.It is getting more powerful,not less,with or without a US presence in the region.The recent attacks on Morocco were a clear sign that al Qaeda intends to threaten Europe,including Spain,next.Its newest old outpost is now in the Balkans under al Qaeda hegemony.France has no axe to grind in the Middle East.Yet in the last six months it has broken up in only the nick of time as many as six al Qaeda bomb plots in Marseilles,Lyon and Paris.Its old African ally,Algeria,was also a victim of an al Qaeda attack recently.Its attacks were timed to worry both Spain and France.Pass to HAMAS,and it need not have Israel within ''the Gaza Strip''in order to ''survive''.It will do so by not recognizing Israels right to exist at all.In any form.Indeed,even without the seizure of the Golan and the Gaza in the 1967 War,Israel endured two wars in 1948 and 1958 by those who threatened its destruction.Terrocracies survive by becoming self-fullfilling governments in their own right with or without external enemies.The Taliban proved this,as have several African regimes from the 1960s onwards.Syria is proving it now,as is Iran.China becomes the most successful example.Even if you were correct in your assertion,[and I am not sure that you are],these groups merely invent new enemies in order to further their own interests.Pass to bin Laden,and he could care less who runs Spain.To him,it is all of a piece to be rightfully restored to Islam.And of course,no successful attack has been aimed at the US,since even earlier,2001,and yet there has been no change of government save the legislative branch since that time.

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