I'm shocked MSNBC didn't have a full day of this. Cindy Sheehand learned a very valuable lesson. The left wingers in this country are only looking out for themselves. She got used and re-used and finally she realized that the only people looking out for her were really looking out for themselves. Good luck Cindy, amy you finally find some peace somewhere

My heart goes out to Cindy Sheehan for all that she has lost and all she's had to endure. And I salute her for showing such incredible courage in confronting the thugs who have hijacked our country. I hope she can find peace in knowing she did all she could, went above and beyond the call of duty, and was an inspiration to all decent people who know the difference between what's right and what's wrong.

Good riddance to a person who used the death of her son to garner attention. Typical of the left she choose to interpret events in the worst possible light with little understanding of the processes of the world. In her eyes the US is a terrorist organization, and al Quada are freedom fighters.

Good afternoon. Hope everyone had a good weekend! I forget who said (and I'm paraphrasing here) the only way for evil to triumph is for the good to do nothing. I did not always agree with Cindy Sheehan's tactics, but I'm sorry she's felt compelled to take the action she's taken. I respect the stand and risks she took, and she can certainly not be accused of doing nothing. I cannot understand fully the extent of her loss or anyone who has lost a loved one over the last years, but I grieve for her and for everyone else. Peace to us all...

I could have sworn I saw a promo that Al Gore was going to be on tonight. And, still no "dictator in chief" story?! I'd love to know why that got spiked on Friday.

FIGHT THEM EVERYWHERE ,well if this don't play into the ole Republican War on Terror Campaign.Selective Intel Leaks all the time from these Paranoid Freaks. Fight em by electing a new Administration. Oh, and no new time tables because we will tip the enemy Mr. President,and Ferret Mitch McConnell,unless,we pick them which we are going to do dramatically next year.Yep the ole Election.1000 or more troops more dead a lot more wounded but it will be an election year so we will show you how "Right" we were all a long yes the ole "Bush Lie Way" cause now swoosh we are going to draw down troops,that is next year and when WE say so.Way to go you Democrats we elected to stop this now but chose to vote for "the so called compromise with no timetables" slick move you foxes of politics.Cindy you are right and were right all a long but when these guys betrayed us with the compromise and now Bush is going to draw down troops next year anyway who can not see it was not an insane waste and criminal all of it. All of it! And yes "Our Country"? Where did it go? I don’t remember?

Another banging of the drum here! Where's the BUSH DECLARING HIMSELF DICTATOR STORY????? It was teased on the blog but didn't see the light of day on Friday - replaced with lots of fluffy non-news. While you're at it, check out the important revelations from the Monica Goodling hearing - the one that Karl doesn't want mentioned.... http://www.gregpalast.com/the-goods-on-goodling-and-the-keys-to-the-kingdom/ .... There better be good stuff on tonight. We've been waiting all weekend.

Thanks for the bit of good news. Mazel tov to David and his new wife!

I wonder why (or whether) Countdown thought that General Pace ever had any credibility in the first place. My recollection is that Pace is the same guy, smiling the same silly, clueless smile, who was sitting on Rumsfeld's right hand when he was still around screwing things up. To me, Pace always looks like a guy who's made his deal with the devil, likes what he got in return, and hasn't realized yet what is coming. Or, maybe it's finally on its way. Paging Mephistopheles.

Is Monica Goodling Bush's Rosemary Woods in the sense that she may be the one who erased Gonzales's memory?

Is Monica Goodling Bush's Rosemary Woods in the sense that she may be the one who erased Gonzales's memory?

I think Cindy Sheehan is right. I've heard more today about Lindsay Lohan's problems than about lives lost in Iraq. Cindy Sheehan used her grief, after losing her son, to drive her on day after day protesting war until she lost much of what she had left of her own life. I appreciate what she's done and hope she can find peace in her self as I doubt any of us will find it in this world. I'm the mother of a son still suffering health problems after Desert Storm.

Cindy Sheehan, this is what's called the United States of America, or what's left of it. Speak truth to power. We understand that. Our government does not. As a mother, as an American, as a human being, you are to be commended for the courage you have shown. Thank you.

There are 602 days left until "43" leaves office on 1/20/2009, a great number to 'Countdown'.

Will Fox News dedicate an entire day to remember how they bashed her, like they did with Rosie last week? Call the "Kick the dead liberal" department... And God forbid people say anything not so nice about Jerry Falwell... JC

Too bad Cindy Sheehan isn't President instead of what we're stuck with. Pace is a General. Generals don't do hundreds, they only do thousands, minimum. How many times must I remind you? It's GONZICA! Aw go on...call Shuster up...if he answers, ask away...if she answers...hang up.

Talking about Cindy Sheehan; she said, "Casey died for a country which cares more about who will be the next American Idol than how many people will be killed in the next few months while Democrats and Republicans play politics with human lives. It is so painful to me to know that I bought into this system for so many years and Casey paid the price for that allegiance. I failed my boy and that hurts the most." I wonder if Keith Olbermann will mention this part of her quote? It seems Mr. Olbermann likes stories about Amercian Idol, Rosie O'Donnell and videos of kids being kicked in the head by break-dancers. Oh yeah...and Mr. Olbermann frequently uses his WORST PERSON segment to taunt people who are simply guilty of having better TV or radio ratings (there are many of them, but really....WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD?). Will Keith Olbermann stand before Ms. Sheehan's mirror of indignation?

The fact that Joint Chiefs Chairman Peter Pace has the audacity to LIE about precious lives lost is disgraceful, dishonorable and shameful. However, it is not the least bit surprising or unexpected, in addition to being uniformly in sync with George W. Bush’s asinine, criminal actions and incompetence to date. The Administration has falsified numbers from the beginning of this catastrophic blunder and illegal invasion. For example, contractors’ deaths are not reported. Most egregious is the use of "contract military personnel" in Iraq, who are not enlisted and therefore not counted in the death total. How the hell this Administration has been allowed to get away with LYING to the American public about the personal costs, which are a direct cause of this invasion and occupation, is beyond my comprehension. I do not believe "we the people", or the world, will ever know the true "personal cost" of the irresponsible, incompetent and criminal actions of George W. Bush and his equally corrupt Administration!! It is well-known that the financial cost has also been distorted, and distorted excessively. However, as a taxpayer, I would much rather have my money stolen from me than those who have lost their lives ignored and treated as though they never existed. The actions taken to distort the personal losses of human life, in a direct attempt to lie to the American public, in my opinion, is the most callous, heartless and unfeeling gesture anyone, let alone a president who sent these brave men and women unnecessarily to their deaths, could perpetrate. I truly hope he burns in Hell!!

Then we see who is doing the ''smearing''and it turns out to be other leftwingers[DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND].Go figure.Traveling down the comments section and even MSNBC is dragged in for a heaping helping of abuse by the Kossacks,for a Sheehan piece it ran on HARDBALL,''Starving For Attention''.Lots of entrail-eating these days among the nutroots.

Keith, I'm looking forward to Vice President Al Gore on your show tonight. I've seen him on several shows within the last couple of weeks and after each interview my hopes he will enter the 2008 Presidential Campaign increase!! Thanks for bringing the should be PRESIDENT to your show!! Imagine if he moved into the White House in January of 2001 as he deserved, considering “we the people” elected HIM president, this country would be in a hell of a lot better shape!! How ironic that the first criminal action of George W. Bush via his brother’s complicity in the Florida debacle, in conjunction with his daddy’s buddies in the Supreme Court, led to so many other criminal acts such as violations of our Constitution; treaties broken and ignored; hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi deaths; nearly 3500 American lives cut short; the betrayal of the military of the United States of America; the destruction of a sovereign nation who did nothing to provoke us and our countries morality and respect shattered. The Bush’s certainly know how to “get what they want” no matter the cost, even if it includes breaking the law, slander and mass murder!! Florida should have been the first sign of the dangers of this deranged man sent to the White House by the Supreme Court with the assistance of his brother and daddy!! "WE THE PEOPLE" have paid an astronomical price, both financial and personal, for the incompetence of the Supreme Court, George Herbert Walker Bush and Jeb Bush. Sadly, the largest price has been paid by those whose lives were needlessly cut short, both Americans and Iraqis. Shame on the Supreme Court, George Herbert Walker Bush and Jeb Bush!! Burning in Hell for eternity is in no way sufficient punishment for George W. Bush!! Again, if only we had President Al Gore…..Imagine!!

I'm saddened to hear that Cindy Sheehan is calling it quits. I can't say as I blame her for wanting to be a regular person again.

Blog update?? PLEASE

I'm not surprised that Gen Pace got the numbers of American Soldiers killed in Iraq wrong. Remember Wolfowitzn testifying before Congress a couple of years back? He was way off the mark too! This tells me that no one in the White House actually gives a flying f$@# about who or how many people get killed. Remember Sen. Byrd "It's all about the oil".

Cindy Sheehan has been broken as many others who have tried (without the influence of mega bucks)to influence Washington. To have ignored her would have been acceptable but to have treated her so badly is unacceptable.

Even more ironic, in a recent poll of both conservative and liberal Americans, when asked the question, "Should Al Gore run for president in 2008", EIGHTY-TWO (82) percent said "YES"!! In light of the hideous TWENTY-EIGHT (28) percent approval rating of George W. Bush, it is a more than telling horror story of the literal hell George W. Bush and this Administration has put this country through!! The disparity in these numbers is also a well deserved slap in the face to George W. Bush, the worst president in history to date and hopefully, EVER!!

I and others are still waiting for the Bush Dictator report - nag nag nag. BTW - did you lose all the comments blogged earlier today?

It is hard to believe that Mr. Pace said that the number of American troop casualties is "approaching" that of 9/11 - 3,000 while he is the Joint Chiefs. It seems to me that these people don't even have the slightest idea of American deaths; if the Joint Chiefs himself does not know his comrade deaths, then he is not doing his job and he's no longer care about them. It defies belief that this comment could be say out loud by Joint Chiefs while they are bragging that those who question their ill-suited plan are not Amreican - or - have forgotten the lesson of 9/11. Who have forgotten the death of his comrade now?

Keith, guess what! They have a new study that say, "it all about the genes" when it comes to be a (liberal) or (conservative) but I am happy that my genes prefer you than that idiot Rush or Bill O.

America owes Cindy Sheehan a huge thank you and I will use this space to say, thank you Cindy!! You worked tirelessly both for your son and to prevent more senseless deaths. In addition, you educated America and the world about numerous illegalities of this war and brought so much public attention to the atrocities of George W. Bush. May you have peace in knowing that you touched the hearts of millions in this country and around the world. May you finally have some peace in knowing you did everything you could for your son who died as a direct result of George W. Bush's lies and incompetence. God Bless you Cindy!! Thank you so much!!

I've heard so many negative things about Cindy Sheehan, and they have ALL been from people who have NEVER served their country, DID NOT have a loved one serving in Iraq, and DID NOT lose a child to that war. Disagree with what she says, fine, but how dare anybody question her grieving. I know, I know, she didn't wear knee pads thanking Bush for allowing her son to die in his f**ked up excuse for a war. I do hope she finds peace, and I also pray that my Mom doesn't have to feel her pain. PEACE!

Laura McGann at TPMmuckraker can help to answer your Bush Dictator report .

Thought this joke appropriate considering that anyone who questions the Bush monarchy is labeled unpatriotic. How many members of the Bush administration does it take to change a light bulb? Ten. 1. One to deny that a light bulb needs to be changed; 2. One to attack the patriotism of anyone who says the light bulb needs to be changed; 3. One to blame Clinton for burning out the light bulb; 4. One to tell the nations of the world that they are either for changing the light bulb or for eternal darkness; 5. One to give a billion dollar no-bid contract to Halliburton for the new light bulb; 6. One to arrange a photograph of Bush, dressed as a janitor, standing on a step ladder under the banner 'Bulb Accomplished'; 7. One administration insider to resign and in detail reveal how Bush was literally 'in the dark' the whole time; 8. One to viciously smear No. 7; 9. One surrogate to campaign on TV and at rallies on how George Bush has had a strong light-bulb-changing policy all along; 10. And finally, one to confuse Americans about the difference between screwing a light bulb and screwing the country.

Bill in Rochester, I agree with you, I am not f*** math major even though I flipping know how a calculator works but Pace is whacked. I am so sick of people talking just to hear themselves think. Maybe it is just my bad sunburn from the weekend or I am really getting what is going on, but letting go of #43 and all that accompanies him will be the relief we all need. On a lighter note, Mazel Tov to David and his new lovely bride, may God bestow upon all His blessings. KO, looking forward to Al Gore on tonight's countdown, thank God you arent interviewing Lindsay's Mom. Peace!

Pat, it is less the memo itself that is disturbing and more the context of when it was made public. In addition, what can be considered the terms of when he may do so seem more that too lax to trust this deficient and his psycho boss make the the call as to what is and is not a national emergency.

Heres a negative thing from someone who served If my mom started protesting the war after I was killed I would come back from the grave and haunt her.

I'm tremendously sorry Cindy Sheehan is reliquishing her public position as an antiwar advocate, but I cannot blame her for feeling burned out and discouraged. I regret terribly that her stepping down is resulting in glee from the right wingers in this country who are blaming the left wing for "making her do it." Nonsense. They are far more responsible for the kind of misery she has endured during her time of being in the spotlight. I didn't necessarily agree with everything she said, but I admired her for standing up and speaking out against the war. Those who accuse her of "using the death of her son to garner attention" should be ashamed of themselves (although sadly, they never will be). Also, I too am disappointed that it appears we are not going to hear the "dictator in chief" story today. I will also miss seeing David Shuster but I guess you can't deny a man the right to his honeymoon. So Peter Pace can't count? Why doesn't that surprise me? And yes, let's talk about that Newsweek article. I can't believe that all the dirt revealed on this administration is going to continue to be swept under the rug. It's outrageous.

You know, I was born one month after Richard M. Nixon resigned. I wasn't alive durring the Vietnam War, and yet I understand that we cannot end this war with the snap of the fingers. I understand that it took years to end that war, even as the bodies piled up. I'm sorry, but three years?! That's all? There are people who pushed to end the Vietnam War for well over a decade. This War will not be ended simply, easily, or quickly. To expect that the Democrats on the Left could simply get into power and end the War is delusional. It lacks any and all understanding of our political system. The only governmental system that can stop any war on a dime is a totalitarian or monarchical system such as the one that was found in Iraq, is found in Saudi Arabia, or what you percieve in President Bush. It will take time to end this war. Without the votes, there's no overriding the veto. What I'm about to say is not going to be popular, and I know that at least Pam is going to yell at me, but I, for one, am glad to see Sheehan leave. Theodore Sorensen once said of President Kennedy that he was too naive when he entered the Presidency to be effecitve, and by the time he died, he was too radicallized. Ms Sheehan started out naive, and is now too radicallized. I'm sorry that I have to say it, but I saw it the day she ran up to a Congressman and yelled at him for not just stopping the war then and there. Had I been him, I would have walked up to her, splapped her across the mouth, and then lectured her on the realitize of our political system. It may not be perfect, but it's lasted 230 years. It's seen war, civil war, slavery, and even near tyranny. Sorry, but it's a hard lesson to learn that this is exactly how the 'Founding Fathers' intended this to work.

Oh, yes, about the Miss Universe pagent. . .first of all did anyone actually watch the parade of anorexia? I'm also reminded of two things. The first is a Futurama Episode which features Zapp Brannigan, the sexistiest (if that can be a word) Kirk impersonator in the universe, judging a true Miss Universe Pagent including Miss Methane Planet! The other was an Amazing Stories where Weird Al Yankovich plays an alien that comes down to earth and makes the Miss Universe Pagent a real Miss Universe Pagent. Seriously, though, does anyone really care about Miss Universe? Or Miss America? Who is Miss America anyway? Does anyone know? Does it really matter?

This war on terror is a hoax designed to infringe our liberties and allow preemptive wars. Seymore Hersh reported in March that the U.S. is funding sunni groups with ties to Al Queda. Now prisonplanet.com has an article about Bush ordering black ops using these groups in Iran for the purpose of regime change. Now, are we fighting these guys or are we using them to do the dirty work we don't want to be tied to or don't have access. Bush is using Al Queda to advance his power grab. I heard Cindy today and she said she just needs to stop and re access her strategy since the dems let her down. I believe that the Bush Administration has a lot of dirt on both sides of the isle. I suspect even the Supreme Court. Now with their use of warrant less wiretaps I suspect few in congress are "clean" and not vulnerable to blackmail. Otherwise I don't understand the behavior of congress. We need people like Mike Gravel and Ron Paul leading these parties instead of the corporate lapdogs. MSNBC has it's problems trying to steer us toward the Wall Street manufactured puppet candidates with the big bucks instead of giving Ron Paul and Mike Gravel a platform. Stand up to your corporate sponsors and let the people choose.

Bridgette, maybe the fact that you were born one month after Nixon resigned says it all. Those of us who are old enough to remember saw the system WORK back then...we saw a tyrannical president who had lost his power base forced by circumstance to either resign or be impeached and, most likely, convicted...we KNOW it doesn't have to take "well over a decade" for it to work! If someone doesn't even TRY to cut off the funding for this war, which has already lasted longer than World War II, when is it ever going to end? Vietnam only ended when the funding was cut off...it could have ended much sooner if not for that! How many bodies are you willing to see "pile up" before you think we can expect to end this? "Three years?! That's all?" No, FOUR years and counting! I guess that's not very long to you, but to some people, it's four years too many of needless deaths. And I understand our political system very well, thank you. I also understand when people are playing politics and protecting their own butts, rather than doing what they were elected to do! No one is expecting to "stop the war on a dime." But they ARE asking that the end come someday soon! At the rate things are going now, it's not coming, EVER. And please, enough with the "we don't have the votes" garbage. If you don't have the votes, Dems, GO BACK AND WORK TO GET THE VOTES! Don't act like a bunch of wimps! And keep sending the bill back and back and back and back and back 100 times if needed! Don't knuckle under to a president with a lower approval rating than influenza and his evil genius Rove who will supposedly spend the whole weekend publicizing "how much you hate the troops" if you don't do things his way! Oh, and it's also nice to know, Bridgette, that you would have "slapped" a woman who lost her son in the war "across the mouth" and "lectured her on the realitize (sic) of our political system." How nice! Hey there, Cindy--SMACK! Wake up! Your son died for a lie, but what the hell? You don't like it? Too damn bad, SNAP OUT OF IT! Very understanding...As for "how the Founding Fathers intended this to work," I don't see anything in the Constitution where it says that the Congress is required to knuckle under time and time again to a tyrannical power-hungry president because it's too wimpy and chicken to keep returning a bill it wants to get passed (no matter how many times he vetoes it) or to try to get enough votes to override his veto--or to HOLD BACK ON SENDING HIM A BILL UNTIL IT CAN! Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that anyone is required to be a wimp, or that the president should have unfettered rule of the country. The day it does, then you can tell me I don't know anything about politics!

HEY jd FROM md......SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN.

Bridgette, GA: With the will, the right planning (political and military), our troops direct involvement in this conflict could be ended in 3 months, period. And it would not require a totalitarian government or monarchy to do so. Regarding Vietnam, please try not to speak with any authority about a conflict, period in our history, or how, when and why this conflict could and should have ended when you had not even been born during the same. Regarding your suggested response to Sheehan, first lose a son in a senseless war and then you can tell us how you may have reacted to her emotional insistence the conflict be ended. I believe Bridgette your true colors are showing by way of some of your comments on these blogs. They remind me of someone perhaps not with necessarily the same beliefs or principles of Ann Coulter, but the personalities appear somewhat the same. Is this true Bridgette. Are you a frigid B---- that likes to lecture everyone on how our government works while missing any internal emotional sense that perhaps it is time we change how our government works. That we return to a government of, by and for the people. Or can you not understand what that is Bridgette. You speak in terms that are black and white Bridgette, no grey areas. That for one bothers me. For when dealing with an emotionally charged issue as this conflict in Iraq you cannot speak in black and white terms. You have to bee able to feel what is right and what the best course should be. Can you feel Bridgette. Or am I correct in my assessmeent. You are somewhat a mirror image of Ann Coulter. Calculating yes, cold, yes. Warm and understanding beyond the constant analytical babble, no.

Bridgette - Rest assured, no yelling at you over Cindy Sheehan stepping down, as you are entitled to your beliefs regarding her work, her personally and her movement. However, it is good you are not a Congress person, as your statement, “Had I been him, I would have walked up to her, slapped her across the mouth, and then lectured her on the realities of our political system" is MORE than appalling!! I believe you or the Congressman you suggested should have “slapped her across the mouth” would have been forced to resign at a minimum and you know damn well it would have!! Violence is NEVER the answer Bridgette, and suggesting a politician should, or has the right to assault ANYONE, is inexcusable!! Based on your utterly outrageous statement, we seriously disagree on how Congress people or any politician should control their tempers!! However, former Virginia Republican Senator George Allen would just LOVE you!! After he repeatedly called a 20-year-old volunteer for Democrat Jim Webb’s campaign “macaca”, an abominable and insensitive racial slur, he lost an election that all polls showed him with a commanding lead. Allen was clearly going to win that election. However, that “lead” quickly evaporated after he exposed himself as a racist!! His bigotry most deservingly cost him the election!! If ANY politician followed your advice, it would cost him or her not only an election or their position, but a great deal more!!

When you look at all of paces medals He reminds me of some third world dictator I don't know how he could have won that many he isn't that old Hell I don't think Patton had that many I do know one thing He is one of the phoneist people iv'e ever seen when I look at him I can see why were in such deep trouble

Dear Bridgette Beneshe of Brunswick, GA...such insight is surely prophetic...not!!! I doubt seriously that you have the mind of the imperfect "founding father" or that YOU have the slightest clue about how to end a war. Your best bet is to pray for God's Kingdom government of the heavens to come, and when Christ Jesus comes to execute judgment on all ungodly people on earth, don't let him catch you slapping anyone in the face.

Bridgette, our "Founding Fathers" would have NEVER attacked a sovereign nation, which did NOTHING to provoke us. That is in no way, shape or from how they "intended this to work". I agree the democrats do not have a veto-proof Congress; and that, combined with the criminal in the White House, gives them no power to stop this "Invasion" now. However, each member of Congress should have READ the "Iraq Intelligence Report" in its' entirety PRIOR to casting his or her vote for or against the "Iraq War Resolution". I believe THAT is how our founding fathers "intended this to work". Dodd, a democratic candidate, admitted within the last day that he DID NOT read the "Intelligence Report" prior to casting his vote. I'm waiting to hear who else didn't read the 60-page report prior to voting in favor of the resolution. For if they done their job and read it, I don't think the vote would have turned out as it did. I want all of their names, as if he or she still holds a Congressional position or ANY political position, they should immediately resign and I don't give a damn WHO they are!!

Bridgette - On a final note regarding Cindy Sheehan, I don't know if you have children; however, as a mother of 21-year old twin daughters, I couldn't even imagine having to bury a child, especially when that child was BETRAYED by his Commander-In-Chief!! NO one has a right to tell someone who lost a child or loved one in this war of lies how they should feel or in what manner they should express their grief. Again, you are entitled to your opinion of Cindy Sheehan; however, you are not entitled to impose this opinion as it concerns applies to her grief; and again, especially when her son was betrayed in a manner in which NO word exists to describe the level of betrayal.

Well, Bridgette, as soon as you slapped her across the mouth, you'd have been arrested. You are that mad at her for what has happened to her, her being radicalized, was it? How mad do you think she was at that Congressman, he representing the Government who hid details of her son's death from her? Slap him across the mouth? For radicalizing her and killing her son? Seems she showed a restraint that you wouldn't. Talk to her about a system that has evolved into a Spin Apparatus, and did a Spin on her? Mmmm, no. Me thinks thou doth protest too much, and Cindy, probably still not enough. Time will tell.

C A - Thank you!! You said what I have wanted to say to Bridgette many times. Quite frankly, I'm SICK AND TIRED of "Little Miss NOT Know It All" preaching to the likes of someone of your caliber or others with in-depth experience and intellect on these blogs. Bridgette, we are NOT stupid, nor are we all sitting in corners with dunce caps on waiting for you to save us with your “knowledge”!! I don't know what you are studying in school; however, your "education", or lack there of, has gone to your head!! In addition, if indeed this "education" has caused your irrational statements and thoughts, as well as your extraordinarily condescending writings, you have not only wasted your time, it has transformed you into someone very distasteful, i.e. your comment suggesting a Congressman should have “slapped Cindy Sheehan across the face.” Some of your "logic" has been more delusional and equally off target as George W. Bush's himself. Stop "preaching" your lack of knowledge and especially in your appallingly condescending manner!!

Pam, Our 'Founding Fathers' did invade a soverign nation. They invaded about a dozen or more of them. They invaded the Iriquois Nation, the Cherokee, the Creek, the Seminole, the list goes on and on and on. The long history of this nation's expansion is written in blood, most of it Native American. Our 'Founding Fathers' were among those who forced Native Americans off their lands, and helped the British invade the soverign colony of Quebec, reducing the entire French Catholic population to second class status in a nation they helped found. Ms Bignardi, you really do not know anything about American History. President Polk ordered the invasion of soverign Mexican soil in order to aquire Texas and associated lands. He did so on the flimsy excuse of 'avenging' a bunch of men who accepted that living in Mexico meant giving up their slaves. Heck, President Santa Anna offered the men in the Alamo fair treatment if they surrendered and they refused. This nation invaded Cuba, the Philipines, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands just to name a few based upon excuses flimsier than the ones President Bush gave the American public before this war. Guess what, Bush is a throwback to the kind of imperialism that got this nation hated by most of Latin America and Asia. However, do not EVER sit there and think that our 'Founding Fathers' wouldn't invade a weaker soverign nation because they did. They did it repeatedly.

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