I don't care if Al Gore is running or not. IF he is, he better speak now or I will think he is indecisive. Wait, I all ready think that. He isn’t looking out for the country any more than any of the other candidates. He is doing promos for whatever book, movie or event he is shilling. As far as the environment, there is a middle ground between the ‘sky is falling’ and ‘everything is ok’ scenarios both sides paint. As for Cindy Sheehan, she met with the president, that wasn’t enough. She wanted to meet again. She went on a hunger strike, but didn’t give up food. I think this has been about how Cindy generates press for Cindy. I don't think the trips to Cuba or Venezuela were about helping the troops either. I am against this war and think we should be pulling out of Iraq, but I am not on Cindy’s side. I have written my Senator letting them know I think the non-timeline bill passed last week is a crock. Oh, and I would love to hear more about that Presidential Directive from last Friday. That just smells.

We're doomed. When the "catastrophic event" occurs which makes George into the King, I'll remind all of you at Countdown that you thought Lindsey Lohan much more important to cover (along with Miss USA and Rosie's tiff with Elisabeth).

By the way, 117 comments on the Dictator story you didn't cover (normally 40-50 each). At least we understand that it's an important story.

I thought I would have liked the Gore interview more but... The questions seemed a bit weak for starters but then his answers really didn't resonate with me. Yes, he got around to making his point about the book but nothing really hit home. If you want an utter "assualt" on reason you need look no further than say... um... the Creation museum! The museum itself might not be so bad but when the owner was asked, he attacked any shred of reason/proof/evidence/fact/observation/sanity... by saying on CNN "There is evidence being 'withheld' from the public that would make his claims true." Um... HELLO? This answer literally screams how you can just simply denny the truth - ANY TRUTH - at will anymore by simply referencing to something 'unseen' that is (or would be if you could actually see it) all the more convincing. Yeah, like Iraqi INTELLIGENCE, NOT! Perhaps Gore is decidedly not the one, but with ALL that has happened I sort of expect more emotion and fire from the dems, not casually reading protest speaches as our constitution is shredded. Please people get up and break something for a change. Tear down the FREAK'EN podium as they pull Habious Corpus from the constitution for god's sake!

Keith, You seem to be a reasonable, not-paid-off reporter (unlike Oreally, Hannity & JScarborough) but you work for a major media outlet who employs JS... How can I give any credibility to MSNBC... I'm afraid even you are on the dole... You must be doing a rope-a-dope on us americans... when JS can no longer be tolerated you step in and ramp up the propaganda... until then... I like you... but that could end in seconds... Don't be like the coward democrats... always stand for Truth, Justice and the American way... Sincere Regards - Harold

As for where the 'public disconnect' occurs in the attack on reason... try the MEDIA! Even just two days ago EVEN AFTER ALL THE TIMES THE ADMIN. LIED, NBC still grants Bush and his propaganda virtually unchallenged airtime. Time and time again the administration has tried to say Iran is deliberately giving weapons to Iraq to kill Americans only to have it refuted moments later by the Joint Chiefs who said otherwise. And yet, time and time again, NBC has repeated the Bush line without any measure of context to say this has repeatedly been shown not true, that Sunis are more at fault, that there are indeed American made weapons killing Americans, that we trained Iraqis to attack like they do and so on. It is OUTRAGEOUS what the media TO THIS DAY had done and something most definitely is NOT right at all about the whole situation. I especially love the disconnect in the media (countdown included) as they go from heart-breaking and outrageous report by Amnesty International on prisoner abuse - right into who has the best rap/hip hop CD right in virtually the same breath. No wonder the public has no sense of the severity of the situation. The media has not provided it. After the recent dem capitulation (when they were under absolutely NO obligation to give him anything) and especially after they pulled the specific wording in their new funding bill that would have expressly prohibited an attack on Iran, I began not just to question the administration but the dems and people like Hillary especially. This is an utter green light to attack Iran. As John Dean said, Bush is likely to just claim he already has war authorization to attack Iran as part of his war on terror. It literally is as if the country is entirely run by the Israeli, oil, and military lobbies. Dems, republicans, the administration, and media (right, left and center) in all. How Dare we trade blood for oil!

#1. Obviously afraid of drunken chauffers(I mean, look what happened to Princess Di!), Lindsay has chosen to do her own drunk driving. #2. Maybe they could quarantine Dubya for Humunculosis, huh? #3 Rumors got it that Al is going to make a Docudrama about Tippers' Global Warming called, "No More Mentors Albums After Midnight".#4. Sicky told him to run again. #5. Hey, Dubya never PROMISED us a Rose Garden. Only WMD's, Beefcake Uraminum, and Nucular Psychos.

ok, you just discussed the meaningless tripe, a.k.a. american idol, etc.,.. then why do you continue to give credence to this crap... lynsey lohan, miss universe?... blah, blah, blah... if you're trying your damnedest to fill space... not good enough! keith! say something to your producers, you don't really find that shiza interesting... do ya?

Well this is my first post EVER on any blog or what have you on these here interwebs. I guess I'm more of the lurker variety. YIKES! Seriously though I had to comment on the appearance of Al Gore. How can you allow him to meander through a response to your questions like that?!? SUCCINCT PLEASE! I was dozing by his second stanza, responding to your first question re: Cindy Sheehan. For the love of God please tell him to NOT run again. Yeah I was not pleased with his verbose, thinly veiled condescension regarding Ms Sheehan or your valid questions regarding the apathy-inducing effect that's been stirred up since the Supplemental Vote. I dunno, after reading her adios letter as well as the soul-crunching piece Andrew J. Bacevich penned this past Sunday in the Post, I believe your questions regarding the effect this war/admin/propaganda has on average skeptical Americans deserved a better response. He seemed to be too careful and that smacked of the toe-dipping idea of his running again. NO THANKS! If he can't take a stand... stay out!

Sue; West Allis, Wisconsin - Ditto AGAIN!!!!

Thank you, it was refreshing to see Al Gore share some of his thoughts with Countdown tonight. I think he's right on the money that we've become intellectually vulnerable and morally apathetic because reason and respect have become irrelevant to the national discussion. Free journalism, I think, is supposed to serve a greater purpose as being the conscience of a nation, and while I think Countdown and Keith currently do the best at keeping this spirit in mind, there is still a failure to motivate because let's face it: the truth does not necessarily set one free. It seems that the typical modus operandi for debate these days is not to go for the merits of a person's argument first, but in a split second determine which side of the political fence it comes from and dismiss it from there. I hardly ever use the terms "conservative" and "liberal" terms seriously for that reason; labels often disable, as they say. It's no wonder that we'd rather not argue and instead shut our brains off to watch stuff like American Idol--it's futile in this environment to even try when the stereotypes tend to carry more weight than the arguments themselves. It's also an environment that does not leave comfortable room for error or self-correction, even though we know we're imperfect, and the only way people can learn is through mistakes and exposure to new information. We should be more lenient to people who can at least admit their shortcomings and errors, and not pander to loudmouths who refuse to admit when they are--at least once in a while--dead wrong. The notion of journalistic fallibility is why I think Countdown is a credible newscast; it is a news program where I have seen corrections/amendments made to things said in previous tapings, as well as allow for people with different takes and criticisms to respond and have a voice in this blog. It's what any decent piece of journalism would do. I don't expect much, but I always hope that Countdown's popularity is a sign that people are just as sick to death of all the BS as I am and that this season of sensationalism will someday come to an end...

Sorry for the double-post, but I also have to disagree slightly with Keith and Chris Cillizza about the conclusion that Gore, in so many words, said "maybe" about relaunching a presidential campaign. My impression is that he is simply not interested in playing the game anymore as the kind of fustercluck that it is now. I might buy that he would "maybe" accept an appointed position in the federal gov't later on, but even then I wouldn't be so sure.

Not to seem nitpicky, but the cheese roll is in Gloucestershire.

the worst president in the worldddddd

I would for just one day, one day, like to sign on to any of the news services and NOT see anything about celebrity at all. This country is so twisted about their priorities, we can't separate the important form the meaningless. I think Mr. Olbermann is right on track in his commentary about the Democrats letting us down, they DID! I think also that CIndy Sheehan probably thought she needed more from the President, I don't know for sure if she did or didn't, know one does. I just wonder when the American people are going to stand up and say ENOUGH IS A ENOUGH! The current administration is corrupt and full of comtempt, they have proved this repeatedly....wake up America. We have a rough rocky road to tavel already, lets not let it continue to get worse.

Sue, Wisconsin, I think the media and dem plan is to just ignor him and hope he quietly goes away. ...a fatal mistake I would think given his overwheming pre-disposition to attack Iran and land us in another even more bloody war than Iraq overnight. Perhaps the dems and the media are afraid to see how much power he really has? We also have to keep in mind that a brewing/wantabe dictatorship might actually "WANT" to provoke a power struggle against them just to give them the excuse they need to crack down... Kind a strange way of thinking about it isn't it? In other words, they might actually want to provoke the public to challenge their authority before they have to leave office and claim some sort of 'insurrection' which is (to my knowledge) what would actually allow that bill to be invoked. Don't put ===> A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G <=== a past the NEOCONS. They've already started a false war and are responsible for a form of genocide by taking down all policing controls and allowing the people to essentially kill each other.

KO, bravo and stop the presses great interview with Mr. Gore. You seem to always get it right unklike the other poeple on at your time slot. He spoke well and didnt seem to get off track with questions about running. Let's just remember folks, you heard it here first. Thanks for also commenting on the poor mathematics of General Pace, as I stated before, I am not a math genus or a card carrying memeber of Mensa but, come on, get it right! Peace

I enjoyed Al's interview. I still wish that there would of been more coverage about Cindy Sheehan. I think that she has been so verbally abused by the right. She gave the ultimate sacrifice for this county, her child's life. Why isn't there a gasp of horror from the american public. I am sad for her and for our troops currently in this occupation.

It would be interesting if Gore entered the race. I'm not sure however that he could tolorate another loss, he kind of popped a cork over the last one. If he loses another one he'll end up in a straight jacket screaming "I'm the real ruler..eh.. president!" He thinks it's a birthright or something.

Khalil al-Zahawi was shot dead on the steps of his house. In an American press that focuses on the deaths of every American soldier, his death was not covered. It was not mentioned. This man's 'crime'? He was one of the greatest living Muslim Calligraphers in the world. The sectarian violence continues. On the day al-Zahawi died, police found another twelve bodies that had been picked up, tortured, and then executed. Maybe what angers me towards the Left and the Right at this point is that no one cares about the lives of people who aren't Americans. At the very least, that is what it seems to me. 3,467 American soldiers have lost their lives, and another 10,000 or so have been crippled. 655,000 Iraqis are estimated to have died in this war. 655,000 men, women and children who did not sign up to 'defend their nation'. Who have not been involved in terrorist activities. Who have been caught in the middle of this insane War. Between the Americans and the Terrorists, twenty times the number of Iraqis have died in this war than died under Saddam Hussien. In essence, two hundred Iraqis have died for every American killed. I have grown dissillusioned with both sides in this nation and not because of that vote. I have grown dissillusioned listening to 'Liberals' who are as dogmatic as the 'Conservatives'. I am tired of the nostalga that permeates the Left. I'm tired of hearing people with no concept of history. I'm also tired of people who want to give up the fight to end this war just because of one set back. If you want to end this war, you fight it by preasuring the Republicans who have steadfastly refused to give up on Bush. You don't do it by going after the Democrats who support your cause. Unfortunately, that really is all I see happening anymore. The 'Left' long ago became as unwilling to have anyone counter their beliefs as the 'Right', even if they support their causes.

What's going on with this blog? People are complaining that items aren't being posted (several of mine have never shown up and they weren't in any way objectionable) and updates are slow and late in the day. What's going on with Countdown? I really, really, really want to know about the "dictator" presidential directive!! That seems to have just dropped off the agenda. I usually can keep my paranoia locked securely in the basement but the absolute silence of Countdown on that topic is waving a key in front of that lock. What's going on?

Scott - henderson nv: Ironic that, although I am close to being a rabid Gore supporter, I would have totally agreed with your post. If you had only left off the last 2 sentences we could have really started a discussion about this.

Another note: There are no words to express my complete disinterest in Ms. Lohan. She can rot in rehab as far as I am concerned. Comeon Keith - cut the celebrity crap. I normally avoid using profanity but you guys are the only ones who have shown any real spine in reporting real news and I hate to see you spiral down. Give up that show biz stuff. PLEASE!!!

Bridgette Beneshe, Brunswick, GA: (First a note to Countdown blog moderator - you really picked up my previous posts quickly so maybe the problems that have been noted are being resolved. Thank you) Now Bridgette, before you and Pam get going again, I just want to say that it appears to me that you guys are in violent agreement about your desired goals. I'm certain that in the details you might disagree but since I agree with both of you there can't be too large a separation. I, too, am really disgusted at the current state of affairs. I do want to hear rants and raves directed at both parties. I do want to hear complaints about the democrats so that we avoid the "party line" adherence which is so awful in the Republican party. So, who is "giving up"? I hear in this blog and in others that the public is being very vocal about this. In your previous posts, you've urged us to let the process work as it is designed to work? Right? Did I misunderstand? Always possible that I have. I've also heard many many times in this blog the absolute concern for the Iraqi people not just the American people who are caught up in this nightmare. So. If you just want to vent, I'm with you. If you want some real answers, let's talk about that. CA always has sound answers. OK?

When the Gang Of Pirates washed away Habeas Corpus, Kieth, You had great comments that I still use when I want to make that point. Now the **** has announced that when their next 9-11 is staged he will abandon the entire pretext of the past 250 years as well as "that stupid piece of Paper" and simply become Emperor. I went to your website and found more about a stupid drunk actress I never much heard about(or ever wanted to) then this next mile marker across the Rubicon, or rather since the Rubicon as they past that point seven years ago. Perhaps you could do like Nightline did to Carter and have a big clock that would say how many days without Habeas Corpus, America held hostage, or any other of the needles of outrage in the needle planet of outrages and just have the top five outrages of the day, and threaten to continue that until Democracy and Freedom are restored in this country. Then when we have a normal society again we can watch drunken actresses and toilet races.

Independent from Texas. I almost posted this then didn't. There are several ways to get her to stop, but no body will. The studios finally put an end to Robert Downey Jr.'s excesses by informing him that he either cleaned up or he was never going to work in the business again. No one would hire him. He cleaned up. The other way is for people to not cover her and the stuff she does.

Hey Darnit! Where's my Chili Recipe that didn't get Posted? Did you guys steal it and enter into the Betty Crocker Bakeoff? You Fascist Nazi Barbecue Bandits! OK. Here it is again: First off, The Secret Ingrediant is ------------------------.

I'd like to post a few suggestions for tonight's program on what "we" your fans can't get enough of. 1.) Jolie secretly plans lavish wedding? 2.) Sheryl Crow hires same nanny as Julia Roberts and Reese Witherspoon? Brittany's man a fraud? 4.)Paris Hilton's aunt offers jail advise? If these suggestions don't work for Countdown then please SURPRISE us. We'll be anxiously awaiting!!

Oh yes, Independent from Texas. I've always noticed that Olbermann seems to reserve that last segment for celbrety news. First of all, he is right in that there are more people who are going to be talking about that then the rest of the hours stuff, but I've also noticed that it's about that time frame when most programs are kind of shutting down. They don't have anything really huge to say be they documentaries or anything else. I'm starting to wonder if he's doing this deliberately because, by that 50th minute, people aren't really paying attention anymore.

In case you missed it http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received.

Your title should have been: Sheenan, She gone! Come on keith your a sports guy, surely hawk harrelson's lingo could have been used here.

Who cares about Miss America falling on her A** or LiLo or JLo or Paris or Branjelina or TomKat!???? These people mean nothing but diversion from the real things that matter. Common KeithO get off this cloud.

Actually, Independent from Texas, you and I think most of you as well, have missunderstood a lot of what I HAVE been trying to say. I haven't stood back and said just let it take its course. I've said 'this is how it is, now, let's push to make it work.' I am not a brilliant writter in English. For some reason, even though English is my primary language, I actually function better in different languages, especially Japanese, which seems to make sense to my brain. When attacked because I cannot get my point across easily in English, it just compounds the problem. We need to push the system to work, and we shouldn't concentrate on those who already are on our sides, but go after the 'weak' Republicans. Go after Snow, Collins, and the other 'Center-Right' politicians. Right now, the Dems in the Senate have a fifty seat minority on the issue of the war. This war can be ended, but the preasure shouldn't be on those who support ending it, but on those who are wavering in their support of continuing it. It means writing campaigns. It means advertisements in their districts. It means holding up to them the very real possibility of ensuring that 2008 means shutting the Republicans out of power totally for two years. But we can't just snap our fingers and the war will be over tomorrow. It's going to take work, some of it VERY hard difficult work, to get this to come to an end. I keep saying this and I keep getting shouted down for it, but Vietnam did not come to an end in a single day. One protest and it was all over. It took eight years of protests and preasure to see it end. Lyndon Johnson saw just what this war was doing to the country and tried to end it, but he was not able to find a solution to the war that would have satisfied anyone. What has disheartened me the most is that one set back and it's all doom and gloom. One set back that was inevitable. One set back that could not be avoided because we're dealing with a President with nothing to loose and a Congress that doesn't have many options. The ones they do have are not very great. I am tired of seeing both sides so full of hatred that the middle gets shut out. Sometimes it is hard to get my point across well, especially in a format that is so small and dense. Yes, sometimes I really do not like someone that's being held up as a media 'darling' because one story often drowns out the others that are there, or they become so lost in the attention that anything that they say gets lost. Do I feel sorry for them? Do I grieve for them? Yes, but I cannot easily put into English words the expressions that can make sense, and in my anger, I do have a problem getting things across even more. When I am angry, in part at myself, I get twisted up and some things I do say are callus or even mean. I am sorry for that.

Bridgette. OK. Let's take the position, both of us, just for the moment, that no one is attacking you. May not be true, but let's just take that position. Then we look at what might be happening on the blog. No one here would argue with anything you said in this last post. What I see is that some of us, myself included, raged and ranted about the Dems letting us down. That is true. What you seem to be saying in this last post is that you think that ranting and raving indicates that we are quitting or blaming the wrong people? Is that an accurate assessment of your position? I think that I am representative of what a lot of us are thinking and doing. I'd like to kick the rear ends of alot of democrats in congress because I feel as though they let me down. I'd like to execute a lot of republicans in congress because I feel as though they are putting that party ahead of what the American public wants. This blog and others offers me a forum to vent that rage. What I am doing in addition to ranting and raving is writing letters, making phone calls, talking to other voters about both parties and what I expect of them. I do not believe this is over and all of us are aware that much work is required. All of us (some more than others because they literally lived through it) know what happened in VietNam. You seem to be very knowledgeable and active in the political process which is all I ask of any American. We may not agree on everything but let's all of us pay more attention to what we have to do than arguing with each other about who is attacking whom. Sound like a plan? Most of us say things that later we wished we had not said or, at least, had said differently (Scott -nv is this true for you? (smile)) Re the media and "darlings". Our media has been lost to the almighty dollar for many years now. Who do we have to blame for this? Ourselves. It take money to put out a paper, put out a magazine, put on a TV or radio program. If we spend our money rewarding the sponsors of programs that publish trash, then those are the programs we'll get. If the media uses one person (Shehan) to represent the anti-Iraq war, then that is what they have done. It is what it is. Since she was the first one to become vocal about it, she deserved the press. She didn't deserve the hate that was directed toward her. No one deserves that. Looking forward to future posts.

Steve Turner --Iowa: Loved the post!!! However, paranoia aside, there can't be a secret Iowa Chili ingredient!! Why, honeychile, Texas is the only place where chili is real. That's why the blogging fascists stole your recipe!! he. he. he. loved it.

IndeTex. No kidding. However, when I lived in Abilene, I grew me a Tickle-Tongue Tree that I brought back to Iowa. That, and some powdered Vinegaroon. You got to know the ratio of powder to bark ( learned from an old Sweetwater Cowboy, over a rattlesnake steak). I do miss the Horn Toad Tears, though. Yup. Got to go to Texas to get it right.

Independent, I understand. I know that a lot of people are frustrated with the fact that the Dems couldn't do something. I am too. I just know that the Dems aren't the ones we need to change right now. I noticed that the anti-War tactics did change after Sheehan's outburst at the Congressmen and after the anti-War activists got one Congressman so angry he swore at them. Now they're targeting the Republicans. However, all I saw was anger directed at the Dems. Yes, I'm as disappointed as you all are, but I was trying to sound positive and getting shouted down. I will try in the future not to let others anger affect what and how I say things, but that cannot be guarenteed easily.

Chocolate, Steve Turner, Chocolate and Chili Peppers. I put cinnomon in my chili too. And ginger, but not nutmeg LOL. I think they have had some major technical glitches these passed few days, which only contributed to the chaos.

Independence & Bridgette: Right on and very nice regarding your last posts. Independence is becoming (or always has been) quite the diplomat. Kudos to you kiddo. To both - use the mind to study human nature, use the heart to understand human nature. And never, never say it can't be done - smile-.

Bridgette is on to something with the chocolate/chili pepper combo. There is something about the two that really compliment each other. I'd suggest a dark chocolate in small doses until you find the right level for your chili. Milk chocolate I find too sweet and not as effective in enhancing the pepper's flavor (probably because of reduced cocoa solids).

Thanks, CA. I things should be calmer now. I just replied to your post on the other thread.

Todd, I use semi-sweet Dark Baker's Chocolate. I can't use Mole because it has wheat in it. I'm probably gluten intollerant. Thanks for the advice :)

Now this is something we can agree on!! Chili! Who'd a thunk it. (If you must use chocolate, semi-sweet is the way to go.) You understand, however, that we purists in Texas would not allow this within the state boundaries, right? Ok - back to the matters at hand---Where is the info on the "dictator" presidential directive?????

Independent, Texas - Thank you for your post of 11:47 AM. I have posted an apology to Bridgette on another thread and you are absolutely correct in everything you stated. It's truly sad that two people agree and then begin attacks against each other; however, tempers are flaring as a result of our frustration. I know Bridgette wants this war ended as much as I do and I credit you with giving me the ability to see through my anger and apologize. Independent, you are truly special, as taking the time to write what you did is a wonderful gesture!!

Independent - Your post of 2:05 PM is more than diplomatic, it's brilliant. C A, I'm sorry if I let you down in any way, as I know I did let my rage get out of control. Thanks to both of you for making me realize this. Bridgette, I am sorry!!

Larry - You are correct in that I have said things about George W. Bush; however, I have NEVER stated "I would have slapped him across the face". I do not believe in violence Larry; and as I have told you MANY times, I oppose the death penalty in ALL situations for a variety of reasons. I fully admit I have called George W. Bush a criminal, a moron, a mass murderer, a liar, an idiot, incompetent and stated I want him transported to The Hague in an orange jumpsuit. I have also stated that the only appropriate place for him is the prison cell formerly occupied by former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosovic. I am certain I have called him more names, but those are what I can recall right now. I still believe these statements Larry and I agree that the situation is going to get much worse as you have stated. This month already, 112 Americans lives have been cut short and there is no end in site because George W. Bush refuses to LISTEN to anyone. I read C A's suggestion above regarding ending this war in 90 days and it was brilliant. I have now changed my mind, as just because we do not have a veto-proof Congress, other things can be done as C A stated. I know you have stated the war needs to end. I agree that rage is present here Larry; however, it has come from both sides here, including from you and me. I truly hope that those of us who do want this war to come to an end can stop the personal attacks and at least attempt to work together in our common effort. I have not attacked you recently, as I promised you last week I would not. I have ignored your most recent attacks, as I sincerely want to work with ANYONE who wants this war over. Thank you for your time Larry.

Bridgette - semi-sweet is my favorite!! You are on to something!! PEACE!!

One thing in all this I do want to stress. As much as no American soldier should have had to die in this, there is a grim and horrible thing happening to the Iraqi people. Above I posted this, but I suspect it got drowned out. 'Khalil al-Zahawi was shot dead on the steps of his house. In an American press that focuses on the deaths of every American soldier, his death was not covered. It was not mentioned. This man's 'crime'? He was one of the greatest living Muslim Calligraphers in the world. The sectarian violence continues. On the day al-Zahawi died, police found another twelve bodies that had been picked up, tortured, and then executed.' It's horrible and horrifying to think that for ever one American who has died in this War, approximately two hundred Iraqi civilians have died. It actually works out to one hundred eighty-nine. These aren't victims of one side, the terrorists, but men, women and children caught in the crossfire. I wanted to remind everyone that, while the media focuses in on the American dead, there are those whose only 'crime' was being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The Qur'an tells us that the most evil of men is the man who will order others to commit an act of evil in the name of God. I do not and will not blame our soldiers for those deaths. I blame Bush for them. I blame Sadr and bin Laden as well. The man who is ordered to kill is far less to blame than the man who orders him to pull the trigger. Those who will order the deaths of another at a distance is far more to blame for that death than any other should be.

Well, now. Shucks, as we say in Texas. Shuffling my feet in the dust. Golly Gee. Glad I could provide something of worth to the discussion. Sure wish I could meet some of you guys. Are you gonna help me demand from Countdown a follow up on the Dictator Directive or what?

Inde, I'd love it if the media as a whole would cover it a bit more too, not just Countdown.

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