CA - ok thanks. That clears it up a little. I was confused.

Someone please tell me how they know its an image of Jesus or Mary on their toast, watermelon, oil slick, what ever when there no photos or portraits of either.
Reminder both were Semite Jews in the Middle East meaning they looked more like your average Arab rather than a Germanic Caucasian.

Steve...you mustn't play with the embers in your food...where are your manners!!! sounds like a Zappa song though...you crack me up...but, why didn't you sell Charlie on E-Bay?...the added feature of the "Swastika between the 'eyebrows'" would have gotten big bucks!!! Rage on!!!

DCohn...please save me the Coulter in the Pea Soup after your vision...I want to frame it and sell it on E-Bay to her twisted and tormented fans!!!

Outwest:  People think this way because they have been brainwashed with the imgage of a Caucasian Jesus.  For all of these people in their 'superior knowledge and teachings' of Jesus, they completely forget where he was from.  Looking at the portrait of the 'Last Supper,' these fellas look more like a bunch of dudes from the mid-west of this country.

Shhh, be careful though, because certainly someone will want to change THAT history too!

PEACE!

Steve.  Dude.  You are peculiar in all the right ways.  I won't be able to have my usual toast for breakfast tomorrow with out checkin' for Charlie.  Thank you very very VERY much.

Ezequiel, Flying a flag upside down means that this country is in distress, that is the only reason why I would fly it like that, butcha know what, I'd rather burn one at this point. It doesn't mean anything anymore. Bush and his thug bunch have squashed everything it is meant to stand for.

"Someone please tell me how they know its an image of Jesus or Mary on their toast, watermelon, oil slick, what ever when there no photos or portraits of either.
Reminder both were Semite Jews in the Middle East meaning they looked more like your average Arab rather than a Germanic Caucasian.
OutWest
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Actually Hebrews of Jesus' day looked like South Eastern American Indians, except with wider variation in hair and eye color. Asiatic Bracycephalic, slender, wide variation in height, average 5'8".
Even the direct ancestors of the modern day Arab didn't look like modern day Arabs. There's the old saying "there are as many redheads among the Bedouin as among the Scots". The Twarag often have Blue eyes.

The climate of the Middle East was very different in those days, Roman era deforestation the cause of desertification in Palestine.

Burn away Brenda.  Again, that is one thing that separates my brother, SIL and nephew from everybody else in Iraq.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not some false flag waving hyprocrite, but the American flag is one symbol that the Bush administration hasn't been able to take away from us.  Please, leave it alone.

Believe in US, America.  Diss the asshole in the White House and his administration, but please don't crap on one minute symbol that represents more than just this Administration-it represents you and Me!

PEACE!

See Outwest, I told you so.

PEACE!

Speaking of finding immages in things, my dog just 'pinched a loaf' in the frint yard, and lo and behold, there was an immage of Ann Coulter in it.  Problem is, the dog turned around for a quick sniff and saw it, too.  Went running into the woods loudly yapping and yowiling his head off.  This was three days ago, and I haven't seen him since!

Jamie, they have distroyed everything this country stood for in the beginning. If the constitution is just a peice of paper, then the flag means nothing it's just a symbol, the songs of this great country mean nothing, which includes the Star Spangled Banner, which has to do with that flag, everything our forefathers fought for is just a piece of paper, it doesn't mean anything to them (Bush, Cheney,and whoever is involved) they have their own laws.
I haven't burned a flag Jamie, I said at this point I'd like to burn one, doesn't mean I would.
Jamie do you still believe they are fighting for our freedom in Iraq?
Our freedom was fought for, before this country became one. I believe the people here in this country right now and against Bush and his team are fighting for our freedoms. The ones that get out and protest, not just against a lied about war but about impeachment of the people that were a part of it. Fighting for our freedom is trying to get back what they took from us. Removing the Patriot Act and The Military Commissions Act. The soldiers who are in Iraq etc., should be brought home.
Jamie I know you are a nice person, we just disagree on some things and you love your family, I'm sorry they are there and I wish them back home asap. I too am fighting for my family in generations to come right here. I don't have a gun, and I would never own one. But I have a loud voice and signs!
If you feel better about the flag then go for it, it's your choice.
When we get out and protest there are alot more that honk their horns then flip us off and yell at us. We are not out there against the Soldiers they are doing their job. We are trying to save them, and they still are angry at us, we've had one military person walk up and was upset, they don't get that we are out there for them. I am a member of Code Pink, they are an organization that is trying to get our people back home. If you aren't doing something, you should be out there, speaking out trying to get them home and getting rid of the ones that did all this to us.

Aside from its' value as an accidental food decoration, the image of Jesus has been standardized as a tall, strawberry-blonde with green eyes.  I attended a religious college and once postulated that Jesus nee Yeshua, was only Half-Jewish, on his Mother's side.  His father was God. It was left to speculate from current Images of Jesus and current translations of the Greek Religion, what his Dad's ethnicity was?  My guess was either Norwegian, Swedish, or possibly Lithuanian. Although there were Teutonic Guards in the area, guarding Peter O'Toole...I mean Roman Officials.  One of them might have played God to the half-starved Mary, and Surrogate Angelic Father to the future Redeemer, Gott'n Himmel! Heilige Scheiss!.  In the end, it doesn't really matter as people will put their own faces on the both of them...or THEM, if you prefer.  Maybe Danish?

Buzz - kudos for the laugh.  I think there's a turd in the cat box here that looks like Cheney.  In fact, they ALL look like Cheney.

Sue- Do they SMELL like him, too?  There, now that I'm on the FBI watch list (like I wasn't before...), I might as wall just say it;  I bet your litterbox collection is smarter and less ethicaly-challenged than Cheney, too.

Steve, I didn't find Charlie on the toast this morning, but I swear saw Squeaky Fromme in the jelly.

Buzz , if your dog has been gone 3 days maybe the problem isn't Cheney. Maybe your dog thinks you're a freaking idiot loser like the rest of the Keithie's, or maybe he is tired of being sexually abused by you.
Think about it, to have your dog leave because you are an idiot is embarassing.

Wondering.  She's in EVERYBODY"S JELLY.  Her wandering ghost body is still trying to find the Colt/Browning .45 Automatic Instruction Booklet that shows her where the 'Safety' is.  She had it at her last breakfast before her Assinine...I mean her Assassination Attempt on Gerald Ford. The Family has always been unprepared when it comes to firearms, having better luck with cutlery.  I won't tell you who's in your ice cream. (OK...Sadie Mae Glutz!)

Buzz - lol - Don't worry about being on the Watch List.  There's an FBI file on me since the Vietnam War Protests.  They must be on Volume 16 about now.  I'll submit it as evidence of my committment to freedom and democracy should they ever call my patriotism into question.

Buzz: I saw this in one of the responses to your post about your poor dog. What is a "Keithie"? Is that  sort-of like being a right-wing Annie or Shawnie or Rushie or Billie'O except someone is asaying you are a left-wing Keithie. Sorry Buzz, but when I read some of these post on here written by children I need help sometimes trying to figure them out (and I don't need a response from anyone telling me I can't figure anything out, but thanks). By the way Buzz, if I happen to see your dog I'll send it home but will give instructions first that it make a pass through LA to take a bite out of Pam, LA's ass. Rare for me but that one felt good. Any other takers?

Did anybody see what Coulter told O'riley last night? She said that she hopes Edwards get killed by terorists. Does that make any sence anymore? Does even get what she said? she HOPES he get killed during an terrorist attack means that has do be another terrorist attach in the USA right. And she hopes for that? O' Riley didn't do anything, are guy's in the media so taken by her that none of them put her in her place? Now you can get fired for maken racial remakes but saying that she hopes we have another terrorist attack so Edwards get killed is ok? I been watching all day for somebody to say anything about it. But either you all missed it or you agree with her. Which one is it here?

say what? - "either you all missed it or you agree with her." - There are more than two options.  We could also (1) disagree and not care to comment or (2) disagree but not care because Coulter has very little impact in politics besides perpetually showing she is a moral and ethical deficient who's only skill is ad hominem attacks.  No wonder you Kool-Aiders like her.  But "you all missed it or you agree with her" is ridiculous on its face.  Like the rest of your posts.  Can you say anything that isn't ridiculous?  Tell the truth . . . you are really FAUX News propagandist and hack David Asman.  

Now how about CHENEY PISSING ON THE CONSTITUTION IN PUBLIC?  He is a CRIMINAL.  Care to address that?  Hm?  

"In the end, it doesn't really matter as people will put their own faces on the both of them...or THEM, if you prefer."
One thing we can agree on.

Another is that Anne Coulter is a waste of skin.
Regardless of her politics shes no better as a journalist than Al Franken in my book.
Since I never watch Fox News I only hear about whats said there second hand from forums and blogs like this one, so I generally take that estimation of its worth as a news source with a grain of salt.

I find it more productive to examine leftwing/Liberal news sources then fact check their claims against reliable sources of information. An example would be the "Phosphuric Acid" claim.
Alot of Leftist claims are ridiculous on the face on them, such as Mustard Gas not being a WMD, but Willy Pete being a chemical weapon. Chemistry can't be bent to fit propaganda.
Like Theodore Sturgeon said 90% of everything is crap, thats especially true of modern journalism.

Wayne - seems like you're putting your own signature spin on 'facts' once again .... along with it's noted property to illuminate via aerial delivery, even Wikipedia identifies white phosphorous (willy pete)as an incendiary/chemical weapon depending on how it's applied.  Since it burns at over 2000 degrees and can't be doused with water it's lethal character has several dimensions - it was also used as an anti-personnel weapon in Vietnam (I was there as you recall) and in Iraq as Bob-Pen observed.

Of course mustard gas is a deadly weapon and was used liberally in WWI first by the Germans against the Russians.....very effective in trench warfare.
And quite effective when Saddam used it against the Kurds......but where did he get it in the first place?
 
It's hard to imagine 'left wing' news sources denying it's lethal nature as a WMD - but it has nevertheless been replaced by far deadlier and more sophisticated chemical weaponry these days, not to mention synthetic biotoxins, etc.

The other fact is it's pretty hard to find journalistic sources that debunk the right-wing crap that passes for news.....I'd think as a self-described political 'centrist' you'd have discovered that in your search for truth.  One reason I like Media Matters is their ongoing attempt to actually restore 'fair and balanced' reporting by calling out the right-wingers who are legion on the airwaves - how many does Rupert Murdock have in his back pocket alone???

The rich get richer Wayne - they gladly take it from the left, the right, and even the center.  Sooner or later even you will recognize that you're merely a serf and a pawn in the ever-growing corporate feudal empire we call home.  That's not science fiction - just a fact.

Wayne - Neither Coulter nor Franken are journalists.  They are COMMENTATORS.  You can't even get the simple stuff right, can you?  Nevermind.  Rhetorical.  Don't answer that . . . I know right now you are going to get it wrong.

CA and Sue- Guess I really AM an idiot, because I keep reading the Pam reply, and can't make any connection with what I wrote about the dog-loaf-pinching incident, and either Cheney OR a 'Kiethie'.  The sex-with-a-dog idea might be worth pursuing, though- anyone know how I can contact Ann Coultergeist (or, a simmmilarly HOT tomato from, say, LA)?

"Wayne - Neither Coulter nor Franken are journalists.  They are COMMENTATORS.  You can't even get the simple stuff right, can you?  Nevermind.  Rhetorical.  Don't answer that . . . I know right now you are going to get it wrong.
Todd, New Orleans, LA (
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From Websters
"Main Entry: jour·nal·ist
Pronunciation: -n&-list
Function: noun
1 a : a person engaged in journalism; especially : a writer or editor for a news medium b : a writer who aims at a mass audience
2 : a person who keeps a journal
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Neither are much of anything, the term Journalist is used loosely when refering to either.
Also most if not all News Commentators are also considered to be Journalists.

Now try some Aloe Vera, I hear its good for burns.

Wayne - They are COMMENTATORS.  Neither investigates nor gathers original data of any sort which is a journalists job by definition.  Also, your deluge of "facts" (read as "bullshit") is a weak tactic too. You often resort to nothing more than an appeal to authority backed with flawed logic.  You can shovel all that crap you want, Wayne, but when you can't even get the basic definitions and facts right all you do is look like a fool.  Which is fine by me.  That is why I largely ignore you.  You make a stupid statement and then promptly are corrected by others not drinking the Kool-Aid.  

Now how about Cheney violating the Constitution?  Nothing to say?  No?  Didn't thinks so.

Now try some aloe vera.  I hear hear is it good for mental masturbation.  

Come on.  Correct the grammar of that last insult.  I dare you.  

"Wayne - They are COMMENTATORS.  Neither investigates nor gathers original data of any sort which is a journalists job by definition."

Once again.
"Main Entry: jour·nal·ist
Pronunciation: -n&-list
Function: noun
1 a : a person engaged in journalism; especially : a writer or editor for a news medium b : a writer who aims at a mass audience
2 : a person who keeps a journal"

Take note
"b : a writer who aims at a mass audience
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Now go to Google and check out the book titles under the names Al Fraken and Ann Coulter.

Being a Commentator does not disqualify anyone from being a Journalist as well.
Franken is about as much a Journalist as Micheal Moore is a Documentarian but both fit the respective definitions if you don't hold them to any high standard, and Liberals don't.

Coulter has writen about as much as she's spouted off on TV. She's not very good at but no worse than Franken.

You won't get very far butting heads with Webster's Dictionary.
Perhaps you should read up on how definitions are agreed upon in compiling a dictionary.

"Wikipedia identifies white phosphorous (willy pete)as an incendiary/chemical weapon depending on how it's applied.  Since it burns at over 2000 degrees and can't be doused with water"
You're thinking of Greek Fire. Actually all you have to do to douse WP is derive it of oxygen. You can do that by submerging the effected item in water or covering it with dirt.
While even a lit match can start a fire WP does not produce its own oxygen so unlike dedicated Incendiary bombs its only really effective against such things as fuel and ammo dumps or vehicles loaded with such items.
WP's effect is thermic rather than chemical though it self ignites by a chemical action, once air is is denied it goes out. It can go out on its own with fuel remaining if the crust of fluffy ash that forms cuts off the air it needs.

You can look at the photos of its use in Fallujah and see that the shells airburst with the WP nearly expended before it hits the ground.
As a pyschological weapon its purpose is to make an enemy position untenable.
Arty is not directed at individual human targets, it's directed at the enemy position, just as in Naval warfare they "Fight the Ship" and in aerial Warfare the fighter pilot seeks to bring down the "Enemy Machine". Its a pyschological distintion. Some fighter pilots could not pull the trigger on another human being, but in destroying the "Enemy Machine" death of the enemy pilot or aircrew is incidental.
A rifleman must target individual enemy personel. Even then Riflemen often depise the sniper, even the snipers of his own army.

The RAI claims of WP being used as a Chemical Weapon are false, the very anti-US journalists who first fell for the fake documentary revealed that, they were doctors and recognized that the photos did not match any sort of chemical burns and that for the most part they only showed advanced decomp due to the climate.
I checked around and found that there seem to be no recorded battlefield deaths due to inhalation of the smoke from WP munnitions.  

PS
The term "Shake and Bake" mission is a source of confusion, the Shake part is when the WP shakes up the enemy and forces them into the open, the Bake part is when you hit them with HE or frags.
Its like the term "Burn 'em down in the street" or "Light them up", neither of which involves fire.

Wayne, I see that aloe vera is working good as lubrication.  Do you know any journalists?  I know about 70.  I also know about 15 news readers and commentators.  In print and broadcast media.  THEY know the difference, so why don't you?  

Because you are a moron with a bias and an agenda to back traitors.  Your chosen methodology is "deluge and semantic dissembling" and like all your brethren, your logic and grip on fact is laughable.

NOTHING YOU CAN SAY WILL CHANGE COULTER AND FRANKEN FROM COMMENTATORS TO JOURNALISTS.  Why?  Because you are WRONG AGAIN.  I don't give a damn whether you believe it or not.  This is merely to let others who might accidentally buy your nonsense that it is indeed nonsense at the fundamental level of definition, yet alone the garbage logic.

Take your long winded bullshit and peddle it to someone who doesn't know that you are full of it.  Go ahead, keep being wrong.  You prove my point that Neocons are brainwashed fascist idiots.  

" Do you know any journalists?  I know about 70. "
I only know about four personally but have met about thirty at various times over the years and a Family member has been a professional Journalist for over forty years, Writing for one of the Oldest and most respected News Papers in the US for most of that time.

The Definition of Journalist inludes those who write for a mass audience, both Franken and Coulter do that as well as act as Commentators.

"Some journalists also interpret the news or offer opinions to readers, viewers, or listeners. In this role, they are called commentators or columnists.
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http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos088.htm

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