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Countdown Friday, Stop the War: 2

Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:08 PM by Countdown
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Stopping the War:  When it comes to putting pressure on the White House to end the war in Iraq... Democrats in Congress would seem to have no problem with the first step: introducing measures that would bring the troops home.  The hard part comes in actually having the spine to pass the legislation once President Bush starts threatening to veto it, and generally bad-mouth the opposition when he does so.  Our fifth story on the Countdown: Stopping the war, take two...

Picadilly Bomb ScareThe London bomb scare.  The intent was clearly the real thing.  But what these people put together and left parked, and, authorities say, twice failed to "go off"...Did it even constitute a bomb or would it have been at worst, a car fire?  The former State Department deputy head of counter-terrorism has his doubts...

ODDBALL:  The internets have had their way with that freaked out hamster, and elephants are cleaning up.

Mad Murdoch 2In 1976, Rupert Murdoch bought from its family ownership, what had been, for thirty years, the country's strongest, self-proclaimed liberal newspaper -- and promised not to change it.  It was The New York Post. It could now no longer be described, either as "liberal," or even as a "newspaper."  Our third story on the Countdown -- thirty one years later, Murdoch wants the Wall Street Journal, and is negotiating with it's family owners on editorial control.

I I, captain:   It's come to this.  The guy at the head of the line in New York City, waiting to buy his I-Phone at exactly 6 PM prevailing local time tonight, was an inveterate compulsive publicity hound, Greg Packer, known as New York's Official Man On The Street Interviewee.  But in Philadelphia, the third guy on the line there, had a little better resume.  Mayor John Street.


WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD:  Who else would take Friday honors, but our very own eye patch wearing conservative bomb thrower...enjoy.

Pets and the GOP:  No matter how grand its ambitions, politics often has the feel of a dog and pony show...So it's a good idea to be **kind** to the animals.  In our number one story on the Countdown... a disturbing trend: Good Ol' Pets -- and other animals -- mistreated by the Grand Old Party.  Most prominently, the case of presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney...

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If you dig a little more into the Bill Frist cat "adoption" story you will find that Bill adopted very few cats legally. He "adopted" most of his victims by stealing family pets in Princeton. His motive was to study the living and beating heart, so he would dissect the stolen cats while they were still living. I know this because I was a classmate of Bill's at Princeton and took many courses with him. He used to joke about his "little nightly forays into people's backyards."

Sorry that I cannot identify myself, I do not trust my government or the Frist family. However, I have no doubt that you could confirm the truth of my story with a little additional research.
Now that Bush’s hope for any domestic policy on the immigration bill has been quashed, he is a dead duck president. Not only will you see the political assassins on the left coming out, but the assassins on the right are now emboldened to step up to the plate at the home run derby. Co-president Chaney and his unabashed ally Rove, have destroyed the Bush name and legacy forever. I predict it will continue to unravel on a daily basis. The Mission Accomplished banner mistake admission is just the start of all the mistakes to see the light of day. The Supremes have also now stepped up the plate, but we have to wait until Oct/Nov to see if they swing and miss or hit it out of the park.
First, Keith, you and COUNTDOWN are usually near the top as far as the highlights of my day. You have my enduring respect as a journalist, and the courage you demonstrate by calling "B.S." when you see it inspires me everyday. I'd love to sit down with you and talk baseball, literature, whatever. You are probably guaranteed IRS audits for life and who knows what else if our Dictator-wanna-be has his way. Having said this, please, NO MORE SINGING! ;)

I had actually read about what Bill Frist did to cats in CONSERVATIVES WITHOUT CONSCIENCE, and, being a cat owner and animal lover overall, I think that if I saw him in the street, I'd have to kick him in the...well, you know - or get one of my cats to pee on him or claw him where I'd kick him. A little much? Sorry...

Glad to see the correct CoulterGeist image back for WPITW!

As far as Mr. Murdoch goes, yep, he's a scum bag, but I don't know if I have the energy to keep up with his scuminess (I just made up that word) in addition to our administration, Congress, and the other people that seem to p*** me off on a daily basis. Great report, though!

More toasts and kudos of appreciation to Keith and/or whoever was responsible for the Larry Johnson interview this evening regarding the events in London. I can always depend on COUNTDOWN to find a measured, educated, calming voice in the middle of all the things and people who are trying to scare us and keep us afraid. Mr. Johnson probably has a future of audits and whatever else ahead of him, as well.

I usually take advantage of the indulgence of the great participants of this blog and try to end the week on a high note; those of you who've seen HISTORY OF THE WORLD PART I will get this reference. If you don't get the reference, see the movie! The only thing I can think of tonight, which shows the state of my brain tonight, comes from the great philosophers Bill S. Preston, Esq. and Ted Theodore Logan aka Bill and Ted from BILL AND TED'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE; the 80's were my formative years - what can I say...So, to the moderators and blog updaters at COUNTDOWN who work so hard to keep content updated, to EVERYONE who contributes to the good and lively debate in this blog, to all the reporters, staff, and producers at COUNTDOWN, and finally to Keith Olbermann, "Be excellent to each other!"

Have a good weekend!
RE: Reporting of the London devices.  CNN is describing the devices found in London as  "potentially viable" bombs.  The quotation marks are theirs, not mine and meant to signify their quoting British police.  Regardless, that is fine example of spooky and vague language.  Everything is "potentially viable" as a bomb under the right circumstances.  I loved your guest on this subject.  I thought it sounded iffy just because growing up on the farm you learn quickly that it is gasoline's nature to burn unless vaporized.  Nice to hear it from an expert though.

RE: Rupert.  I heard a high pitched whine and the sound of dingos hiding their pups as his blood pressure spiked.  Or whatever pressure from whatever it is Rupert has thundering in his evil veins.  Holy cow, Keith.  I know I said kick him again, but your gusto impresses me.  Good show.  Oh yeah, kick him again . . . not that you need any more encouragement it would seem.

RE:  Sharpened Arrows - Way to dish it out to Pelosi and Reid.  Indeed, Nancy, you have had the arrows all along and no guts to draw the bow.  Time to pony up, um, er, Annie Oakley?  Are there any female archery heroines?  No female Robin of Loxley?  You get the idea.  I am not holding my breath given your track record of almost total spinelessness.  In fact, I suspect that you leave the hangers in your clothes to simulate a spine.  Prove me wrong.

And Larry?  That's an example of why I can't go to work for the DNC.  Don't forget, I don't like either party, just for different reasons.  Just a reminder since you hadn't been by in a while.
#1.It's not like he's Clark Griswold, draggin' AUnt Edna's rabid dingo from his bumper.  Every dog needs some air blowing on it, once and a while. #2. They can call each other and compare Shamelessly Blatant Techniques. #3. 'The New Bangin' Wall Street Journal' with more fine print, FOX Section,  Horoscopes, Bunny Ranch Interviews, and Penny-Stocks for Everyman! #4. Maybe it was a prop for the Brit remake of "Casino" called "Camp Casino", where Robert deNiro's character (played by Boy George), gets nearly blown up in his Cadillac (the driver's on the wrong side so they used a Mercedes with Brit driver location). #5. Simple.  since Dubya and CHeney aren't in the Executive Branch anymore, there are two openings.  Hire Jane Fonda and Michael Moore as actual In-Department Executives, and move them into the White House. They can drive Nonexecutive Dubya nuts with regular syntax and facts, facts, facts! I give him two weeks before he cracks.
#4
This is another False Flag scare tactic used to perpetuate the "War On Terror."

As long as this administration, the government controlled media (FOX NOISE), and the military continue to keep Osama alive, we have the justification of War and Profiteering on their levels.

If you want a blueprint for the "War On Terror," all you need to do is Google Project for a New American Century or http://www.newamericancentury.org to have your answer.

Our troops have been committed to the administrations plan for a New World Order and as Ramsey Clake so clearly puts it, the American Empire.

Is this what you want as your future and for your children??

Ron Paul, 2008.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com

God Bless America.



Thank you for some excellent reporting on the London "bomb" and especially for the great investigative piece on Rupert Murdoch.  Altogether the exact sort of thing we like to see.  The iPhone piece was also good, although I wonder when Countdown will be getting its own iPhone.  I'll bet Countdown won't be standing in any lines.  By the way, I see we made it about 57 minutes tonight as a Paris Hilton-free zone, but then Countdown just couldn't resist the urge any more.  But at least it had something -- even if obliquely something -- to do with the story.  Mo Rocca is always great.  More Mo, please, and less Musto.
I must start out my message with...hooray Mika!  I hope Keith follows suit...producers are the same variety of shark as lawyers.  In the words of Billy Crystal, "Forget Paris!"

#4  I admit, I have not read the BBC's account of the latest bomb scare, but what, is this some sort of middle finger to new P.M. Gordon Brown?  He has previously stated that he will not lick W's boots (citation needed), so they make up a terrorist threat during his first week in office?  Besides, London dealt with this sort of thing all the time back in the IRA days.

#3 and #2 Don't give a shite about Murdoch or the IPhone.  There are too many Kane-like wealthy mofos in the world...Steve Jobs can get as mad as he wants at Bill Gates, but I have not had an Apple computer since IIGS back in the day.  I refuse to buy an iPod, but dammit, I will spell it correctly!

Todd in New Orleans:  I still think you're great!  I know, I'm just the random crazy chick that posts to the Hole once in a while...

Cheney:  Piss off!  I hate you!  Your own party hates you!  He's just a version of Mr. Creedy (read previous posts re: movies and politics).  Anyone with even a basic knowledge of Hinduism would note that your pacemaker is just an obvious sign of the fact that you have no heart!  May you return to earth as a...dung beetle, cockroach or other cold-blooded invertebrate!  All the best to everyone else!
- I do take language serious and one of my buttons is the lack of time people spend using  spell check.

That would be SERIOUSLY!!

- but spelling error are easy to avoid

That would be spelling ERRORS - plural!!

- I just hate to see the lack of "effort" people taking in spelling - the spelling police (Sent Friday, June 29, 2007 10:47 PM)

That would be the lack of effort people TAKE in spelling

I advise you to be careful criticizing others!! Also, this is a political blog, not a spelling or grammar discussion blog.
I was flipping through the channels and I caught Sean "Unhumanity" interviewing John Bolton.  They were talking about how awful the London car bomb threats were and how much damage could have been done and how scared we all should be.  They were really laying it one thick.  Then I turned your show on and watched your interview with the counter-terrorism specialist and got his side of the danger.  Frankly, he makes a lot more sense then John Bolton.  Thanks for trying to keep this country from going balistic over a bucket of nails.
Anyone in the medical field knows that cats are used to disect, intubate and experiment with in the course of any class on anatomy etc...I would rather have disected a cat in my anatomy course (to learn muscles, nerves etc) than a human (although med students, physical therapists disect humans as well).  I never knew where the cats came from,  I can assure you I never went out and found my own to experiment on,  that's a tad creepy.

Speaking of creepy,  Rupert Murdoch could take over the entire media market!  Talk about back in the USSR!  We don't know how lucky we are!
Worst: Sorry Keith, you got it wrong, it's not annie, it's chris and all those like him who put her in front of a camera.
Interesting comments.
Anyone here ever seen whats left of a summerhome after just one Liquid Propane cylinder explodes?

The amatuer jihadi who built those bombs certainly intended that they go off. Those boxes of nails weren't there because he planned to remodel his garage later.
Re: "Stopping the War." Realistically, the Dems cannot make a "bulletproof" move against this administration until they have the necessary votes from the other side of the aisle to overcome both parliamentary stalling tactics in-house AND to be able to override a presidential veto.

As for the London Bomb Scare? I'm glad you had a better expert onboard than either the would-be bombers or the Yard's PR department. I can understand that the Mad (as in Magazine?) Bombers didn't know their craft, but when the "experts" don't see the flaw in their device either? Oy!

Rather than, um, dissect all the rest of the stories, I'll just say thanks for ending the week with more strong content, less fluffy Paris-ian nonsense. As me old Uncle Fred used to say, "Mercy buckets!" (Fred's French was terrible. . .)
Keith, why must you invite the lawyer of that Al Qaeda terrorist to come on your show over and over and over again?  Why is it so important for you to see Al Qaeda terrorists released from jail?
The Washington Post reported - Republican maneuvers "are nothing all that extraordinary," said Eric Ueland, chief of staff to Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) when Frist was the Senate majority leader. "There are 49 Republicans in the Senate now. It's the largest Republican minority in history. . . . They need to be listened to."

No Eric, they need to be put on trial like the treasonous traitors they are for backing Halliburton's Invasion for Oil Profits and letting Bush Co. rape the Constitution like it was a prom date on rhohipnol.  The Senate Republicans, and especially that wormy Mitch McConnell, are as guilty as Bush and Cheney.  

And on a personal note, if I ever see your old boss near a cat again?  It will end quickly, brutally and painfully.  Just not for the cat.  That is a promise, but I also promise I won't use Bill for medical experiments.  Why?  Because I am not a monster.  Also I am not sure he is close enough to human to be a valid scientific model.  Plus it wouldn't be fair to all of the Americans waiting on life support for Bill's Famous Fristian Remote Psychic Medical Diagnosis Service.  He wasn't only a crap Senator, he is a crap doctor too.  You Neocons couldn't find someone better to defend you hacks than this former lackey of a proven jackass?  A sadistic incompetent jackass at that?  Way to show your true colors.  

So, Eric, how about you shutting the hell up about who needs to be listened to, eh mouthpiece?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19513374/

Pure propaganda garbage.  Nice going, MSNBC.  Did Cheney write this?  I know Bush didn't as it contains polysyllabic words.  The solution to crime IS NOT MORE IMMIGRANTS, ESPECIALLY ILLEGAL ONES.  So stop being ridiculous.
Heres a bit on Propane as an explosive.
These Jackasses manage not to kill themselves and got a few good blasts , the one using a 5 gallon tank on a stump in the lake went off very nicely.
A one gallon tank actually out did that in comparative blast effect.
The 100 gallon tank doesn't look like much till you see the scale markings.
It appears that many smaller containers rupturing simultateously would produce a greater blast than one large tank. Just as grains of blackpowder produce an explosion while a large lump of black powder burns like a rocket motor.

This home explosion
http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_053164102.html
Would have involved many times the amount of Propane that they could have put in those cars.

I'd expect that there was too little available air in the cars for the gas to ignite.

Google Propane Explosion destroys home and theres a sizeable list of demolished houses.

Fuel air bombs can be highly effective but only if theres enough air for complete ignition.
More total complete bullshit from the Olby Spin Room!!  From ABC:
"Had it done so, that blast then would have ignited six to eight tanks of propane in a mist to make a fuel-air explosion, creating a fireball the size of a small house and propelling 18 to 20 boxes of roofing nails around a large area at bullet speed, counterterrorism officials said."

Not exactly the bullshit that Olby would have you believe!
Great coverage on Murdoch.  If we let this man take over so much of our media, would there be any difference between us and China when it comes to freedom of the press or freedom of speech?  If anyone thought we were bombarded with Paris Hilton-like stories before, just wait until he gets his paws on even more media outlets.  All we have to do is look how little coverage the Iraq war receives on Fox News, not to mention how inaccurate they are on just about any other important story.

I too would like to see less Musto and more Mo Rocca.  I'm not sure who thinks Musto is even the slightest bit funny...except for Musto.  



Steve, Cedar Falls, IA...I had actually thought about that scene in NATIONAL LAMPOON'S VACATION but totally spaced it by the time I got around to typing my post.:) I guess I was too involved in my exciting Friday evening activities - folding laundry, cleaning up my kitchen, etc. The fun never stops at the Swisher house!!
Please, someone at MSNBC set me straight tell be what I am missing.  I watched Olberman's coverage of the attempted London bombing including his segment with the totally worthless "expert" Larry Johnson( he thought it was significant that the bombers were well off neough to affor Mecedes when it was widely reported the cars were stolen).
   Read the transcript and tell me if this meets your high standards for truthful reporting and isightful commentary.  Are you not be embarassed by this man's performance last night? Do you really not see how he tarnishes the brand?  
  The most absurd, illogical and laughable rhetoric appears on the hard left or hard right blogs when ever there is a news story appears which seams to directly contradict their most cherished beliefs. Instead of awknowledging the complexity of our world and the contradictions which are part of history they try to some how twist the facts, deny reality and somehow make everything fit their ideology.
 You expect extremest partisan kool-aid drinking tin foil hat wearing political blogs to do this, but a host of  major News network show? Someone who is touted as a "intellectual" truth teller.
 Please explain this to me.  
Hmm, someone's coming in here referring to Keith as "Olby"...Nothing  says "I am an invader from the right-wing Keith Olbermann hate site OlbermannWatch" quite like someone referring to Keith as "Olby"! Really, you guys are so easy to spot. Find yourselves another place to play, will ya boys? This is OUR place!
Ugh - missed both airings of Countdown last night because I was out.  So, I'm left with whatever is available on video online and the transcript.

As far as Frist is concerned, serial killers and other bad guys begin with cruelty to animals.  And stealing people's pets?  Yuck - but many of those Repugnikants think they can do anything they want to anyone without any consequences.  

Frankly, I don't think he's qualified to pick the lint out of my naval.
I think Rupert Murdoch should spend the rest of his life in jail for the horrible damage he has done. My advice is if Murdoch has anything to do with it, boycott it and send any politician who has anything to do with the bastard packing.
Keith you might need this for WORST Person Bill-o file concerning his Lesbian Gang story, covered on QUEERTY
His crime expert Rod Wheeler his source for this story:

Rod Wheeler is a Food Protection Specialist
http://www.ibie2007.com/attendee/bio_wheeler.asp

” Experience: Former director of the Office of Food Security and Emergency Preparedness with the Food Products Association where he developed a series of food security and defense programs to support food processing, manufacturing and retail food outlets. Previously served as Secretariat of the Food and Agricultural Coordinating Council, which is a national body of Food Industry and Government Leaders. ”

Yeah dipsh*t we’ll ask your advice when a dyke spits in someone’s salad. WHAT a JOKE he and Bill-o are!
Wheeler also recanted any connection to Pink Pistols, I hope they sue O’Reilly, FAUX, and Wheeler’s a$$ off!
Keep up the good work, Keith.  I love your show and feel we get the real facts.  I live in a city where Fox, Hannity, Bill O. and Limbaugh are the absolute truth, Gerry Ford country, Grand Rapids, Michigan.  I have had friends lose their jobs because they're too active in liberal causes so I do not express my opinions at work or volunteer activities because I want to stay involved and know that would be suicide.  What a blessing it is that some people still can voice our opinions and not lose their jobs!
Thanks a million.
Elaine Goodspeed
Grand Rapids, MI
I made my comments in my e-mail.  
Hey Todd,NO,LA I called old Pelosi's office right after she became the speaker of the house.Actually was able to wiggle my way somewhat through that comment line bullshit back then.No impeachment,no runs,no attempt to bring the troops home,the idea about not attaching the money to this new plan seems stupid.I guess I am missing something.He keeps vetoing a plan with money for his War then doesn't he screw himself.
I mean they could send it up there over and over till he would have no recourse,and the Congress would see if they didn't have enough votes that American public would get pissed enough that the leverage would be on them.They got that next election coming up.
I don't like that double crossing pinch faced bitch of a speaker myself.She's too much of a candy ass and I think she cut a deal with dubya way back when she became speaker and went over to dubya's house to play with him and rove and the other crooks over there.
Jack Murtha is the Speaker who needs to be negotiating
this issue and getting us out of the damn war.There is no reason we can't have troops coming home by fall and in substantial numbers by Thanksgiving and Christmas other than they are playing politics with our troops lives.
Jack Murtha,Finegold,Kucinich,and Senator Olbermann are about the only members I trust.
I'm so sick of these cowards that have let our families lives be affected by there fear of not looking good and supporting the troops in Dick and Dubya and Roves Oil Political enterprise that has bankrupted us while giving his corporate friends and oil companies the big breaks in taxes as K.O. has high lighted.
Ah what the hell like I said before they'll build some wall or monument with funds donated by those corporations who will write it off as another tax break with dead members of the armed forces on it who served in Iraq.You know complete with all those 4th of July speeches that are up coming and how they are all supporting our troops.Our Congress and Corporate contributions,Dick Cheney,and his Oily buddies Dubya,Rove and Wilma Flintstone hair do Condi grits.
Sounds like the crew of the Valdez.Run Forrest Run!
Dear Jamie, Chula Vista, CA ,

Spent some time with some good friends and told them what I had done on the blog.

I told them that I had found myself getting progressively more "snarky" and decided that I wasn't helping anyone including myself by staying. I realized
that I had become more focused on how people expressed themselves than what they were saying and had had the arrogance to presume I was in a position to remark on that.

I told them that, just as I had that revelation about myself (and was feeling very self righteous about it), fate stepped in to slap me down as only it can slap a person down for such arrogance. I was presented with a discussion topic for which I felt entirely too much passion. That will always be the test for me - how to handle myself when the issue is of such deep personal meaning.

I really blew it. I let all the rage that had been building up over a lot of different things boil over into a post addressed to you with what was probably  the nastiest writing I've ever done in my life.

I was so embarrassed and, if I could have, I would have grabbed that item out of the blogosphere before it posted. (One lesson here is that anytime self righteousness shows up at your door step, the asshole factor will be right behind it.)

My friends asked what I had done about this situation. I, of course, said I had done nothing. After being roundly berated for being the coward that I am and for having, evidently, left any character I once owned in a packing box, they asked what I was going to do now? Nothing like good friends to tell you
when you are being an idiot.

So - I got on ebay and bought myself some character to replace that which I'd lost somewhere along the line. The packaging indicates that the more I use it the stronger it will grow. I'm hoping that is true. I also got myself a miniscule amount of courage in the same purchase.

If you don't mind, I'm gonna test these things on you. (You won't believe how much I am sweating while being on this blog. I didn't know if I'd be able to pull it up since I'd not been able to do so until now.)

Ok. Here goes. Deep breath.

I humbly apologize for my behavior in last week's posting to you. No matter what my own circumstances, opinions, or beliefs may be, I had no right to express myself as I did. I hope you can forgive me and have fonder memories of my time on the blog.

Thank you,

(I think I'll go take some anxiety meds now.)
Resignation Alert:  Rachel Brand, Assistant Attorney General for Legal Affairs resigning 7/9/07.  No reason was given - I guess they figure we're not buying that "spend-more-time-with-my-family BS.

Her major accomplishments at the Injustice Department included preparing Alito and Roberts for their confirmation hearings and helping with the reauthorization of the so-called Patriot Act.

I'll keep examining the Friday trash for other goodies.  With this one, it's good riddance to bad garbage.
Hi, Keith, et al,
I am a graduate of Washington State University's Edward R. Murrow School of Communication and former news writer. I recently finished a six month journey through the pages of author Joseph E. Persico's "Edward R. Murrow: An American Original" (all media owners, reporters and publishers should be required to read this) and feel profoundly blessed to be connected, in some small way, to the pioneering journalist who prompted the citizens of the United States to see through governmentally created fear and seek the truth. Thanks to NBC for having the guts to sponsor your show. And thanks to you and your staff for not yielding to fear.
I am 58 and have never been so ashamed of my country and the actions of its government. It is indeed broken.
When Murrow decided to go forward with his program exposing Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy, a man using the fear tactic of Communism for his own gain, an acquaintance chastised him for being too harsh on the Mid West legislator. "His methods may be a little harsh, but he's doing a job that needs doing," Murrow was told. "You may be right," the broadcaster replied, an archived answer he used to protect his true thoughts and end a conversation.
Murrow, never known for relaxation, has been spinning in his grave mightily since 2000, I suspect.
In few other times since his death has his sign off "Good night and good luck" been more appropriate.    
Well a bunch of would be martyrs set themselves and their gasoline soaked SUVs on fire and tried to ram them through the defenses of the Glasgow Airport Terminal.
Could be they were hoping to wipe away the shame of their failed car bomb attempt.

These jokers weren't playing around, even as they emerged on fire from the blazing and exploding wreckage they were trying to spread blazing gasoline from containers.

I find it odd that people want to claim that there is no terrorist threat while at the same time claiming America is "Less Safe".

You folks are lucky that there are thousands of agents of our Government and local law enforcement out there every day putting there lives on the line to make sure these Bevis and Butthead versions of Jihadis aren't able to get the materials they need to produce mass casualties.
As it is one of our home grown nutcases, overmedicated and striking out at the world because viagra doesn't do the trick for them anymore , can cause more damage than these recent attempts in the UK.
Yeah, "LA" and Murdoch will force you to read them. Scarry stuff huh? I want to see Keith interview the candidates one by one instead of talking about them, talk TO them. Especially Rudy. The show would be much better if the guest list was larger than 6 or 8 people.
In regard to Rupert Murdock --- Don't forget the Mike Royko statement when Murdock bought the paper he was then writing a column for:  "No self-respecting fish would be wrapped in a Murdock publication."
LA - I love Mo Rocca!! His covergage for CNN of the Conventions in 2004 were superb!! He is hysterical and I agree, I wish he were on TV in general more than his is. Whether on MSNBC or other station's, he is so talented!!
Keith,
As a veteran, with many years in the military, I am quite chagrined when newscasters, hosts and others mention Bush, and especially Cheney,(6 deferments), when talking about their crazed stance against redeploying our troops from the middle of the civil war in Iraq, without referring to Bush's one year missing records gap, and Cheney,s refusal to be drafted - six times.This situation should have the same treatment that you give Bill O'Reilly, OFTEN AND UNRELENTING! We need someone of your statue and prominence to bring and keep this before the American people. Give em Hell Keith!!!!
               CDR
Helloooooooooooooooo - what's with no update since 8:25 AM?  I know it's a Saturday, but there's at least a couple?
How long before we get another "special Comment" from you KO..I guessing with Nancy Grace kicking your butt in the ratings we're due for one of your "Murrow" moments.
Dear Jock Sniffer,

May I call you jock sniffer?  Great thanks. Thanks for entertaining my comments at the "Bung Hole"..... It called the news hole?  As always, great thanks.  I am writing in regards to story #4.  FYI jock sniffy, Piccadilly has two c’s.  Great thanks.

Picadilly Bomb Scare:  The London bomb scare.  The intent was clearly the real thing.  But what these people put together and left parked, and, authorities say, twice failed to "go off"...Did it even constitute a bomb or would it have been at worst, a car fire?  The former State Department deputy head of counter-terrorism has his doubts...

I see that you terrorism guru is as esteemed as your legal expert, John Dean.  Oh well, at least Johnson wasn't disbarred and was not a rat like Dean was. This would be the same Larry Johnson as:

"None of these beliefs are based in fact. ... While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way."

--Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining Terrorist Threat," New York Times, July 10, 2001. Johnson, a former CIA officer, was deputy director of the U.S. State Department's Office of Counterterrorism from 1989 to 1993.


The funny thing jock sniffer is that your own network disputes your supposition. (Pivot to camera B) Have you no decency sir? You have now become what you have always criticized others of being.  A shrill water carrier for the far left.  (Pivot back to camera A) We are still waiting for you to have a guest that challenges one of your premises.

Good night and good luck.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19495826/


3 sought after 2nd car bomb found in London
Explosives-laden vehicles could have killed hundreds, authorities say

MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 7:47 p.m. ET June 29, 2007
LONDON - British authorities were seeking three men Friday after police defused two car bombs that they said could have killed hundreds of people had a cell-phone trigger not failed

Independent, Texas (Sent Saturday, June 30, 2007 2:21 PM)  Glad to see you back, still would like to debate issues discussed a few topics back - what good can be attributed to the current administration - but we will have to go one at a time.  But Jeeeze, I would recomment you leave emotion out of it, and don't apologize.  Say what you want to say and let it go.
"Wilma Flintstone hair do Condi grits" - B. A. Buddusky (Sent Saturday, June 30, 2007 1:04 PM)

Another classic!! This is too funny!! I don't know you do it, but you are brilliant!!
Jack Murtha is the Speaker who needs to be negotiating this issue and getting us out of the damn war. - B. A. Buddusky (Sent Saturday, June 30, 2007 1:04 PM)

B A - How right on target you are with this statement!! I believe if Murtha were Speaker of the House, indeed our troops would be coming home!! He would have never allowed George W. Bush to get away with the crap he did with the last funding Bill.

I always thought they should have either:

a.) Kept sending the same funding Bill to the moron over and over again until he was blue in face and passed out.  It's not like a lack of oxygen to the brain of George W. Bush would have hurt HIM in any way, shape or form!!

b.) Send no funding Bill at all.

My multiple choice selection would be “B” and Murtha has the guts to do it!!  

PEACE!!
Friend O. Bill - Me too!! I always knew he had one sick mind.  This explains a great deal - WOW!! I'll take your advice and research it.

PEACE!!
RE: Glasgow Update.  Well . . . to all you naysayers about this being over hyped, I've seen worse car fires on I-10.  You think that was a car bomb and not a glorified car fire?  No, that was a car fire.  THIS is a car BOMB:

http://www.guzer.com/videos/car_bomb.php
 
What the hell is your Name Limey?
   Wheres bath tub boy Olby? (Sent Saturday, June 30,
   2007 10:29 PM)

Ya blooming limey loving Tony Blair.This shit has been happening to you Brits since our Revolutionary War and before.Ya ever here of the IRA?
What the hell does that have to do with Keith Olbermann or Larry Johnson.
Ya been drinking to much gin fool.
If you want to understand a little about counter terrorism ya might want to check ought the work of one of your countrymen who served in our arm forces in Viet Nam and was a hero.
He predicted how this terrorism would look in cities and the war on it and fore told 9/11.He also died in the attack on the Towers after saving many lives.He made these predictions in 1998 and was there for the 1993 attack as well.Here is the link dedicated in his honor :
http://www.rickrescorla.com .The fine parts of his interview are in the last 4 minutes of the link if you are open minded enough to watch and listen.My experience tells me I doubt you'll look because you'd rather bitch about something you don't know a damn thing about.
He also foretold how sending massive armies would not  work as a counter terrorism tactic.
Hmmm Attacks on countries and the likes of that.Too bad your former Prime Minister Blair one of Bush the Butt Kissers Club as well as some of are military strategist were not open minded enough to take a look at that style of ware fare.
I'm sure a guy like Larry Johnson could explain to you how that works you "twit."

Don't rain shit on that which you have little knowledge and don't even sign your name to tubby.

Maybe thousands of lost lives a country destroyed by hundreds of thousands of explosions that didn't have to happen(called shock and awe) if they would have listened to a couple friends of Keith Olbermann and and Larry Johnson's Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson as far as WMD.And maybe not bought into to George Tenet and some cartoons Collin Powell presented as trucks supposedly bio hazards or whatever the flavor was that day.
Are ya really here on the Rove pay roll.Maybe your Alfredo Gonzales the beady eyed little shit.He's British right amigo.
And dude every time someone sets a bomb off does not mean it is a terrorist attack or al-quida.We had a guy the Una bomber Theodore Kaczynski , as well you Brits have done the cha cha with the Ira.Is them some Irish IRA branch of al-Quida?
So before you go shoving your limey opinions up our arse you may want to check your facts.

Ya Bits did a fine job of screwing up the Middle East Israel and Egypt that part of the world after WWII.
The French South Vietnam and us having to bail you out in two  world wars we wouldn't have all this shit in the Middle East that used to be part of your Empire.
Back off Keith Olbermann and Larry Johnson.

When you get your show we will all see how the audience responds.Right now you'd do well to get a good laxative because you've got a real problem and are full of it.
God Save the Queen and Spare us her Foolish TubbyChipper Subjects!  
A yo from NY to Keith:

any facts to the claims about a upcoming oil peak crisis, that is supposed to happen between now and 2010? According to the books, "The Long Emergency, Eating fossil fuels, etc, etc,"
Clint
"Cheney,s refusal to be drafted "
That is an odd way of putting it, also he had five deferments last time I checked, and before that they were saying four deferments. I guess the story changes about everytime its brought up.

As for service as an Interceptor pilot in the height of the Cold War, I don't think it would be wise to dis any of those pilots to their face.
The Soviets were bringing Tupolev Bear Bombers into Cuba and had planned to build bases in South America as well. The Bear was capable of firing air to ground nuclear missles with a range of ninety miles if memory serves. The Interceptor pilots in order to score a kill would have to use afterburners the whole trip (burns fuel like mad) then engage heavily armed bombers and most likely mig escorts with a very good chance of having to ditch in shark infested waters when the deed was done.
Just before Bush's performance began to fail he'd been a volunteer in high altitude experiments, exposed to near vaccum while monitored by airforce doctors. Its only speculation but I figure he had lost his edge due to the after effects of those experiments, which would explain his returning to flying the trainers.
Either way the F-102s were begining to crash on landings due to metal fatigue of the landing gear. The replacement, the F-106, would have required significant retraining and the other replacement craft such as the F-4 were very different aircraft all together.
Bush no doubt could have done more, but then again a whole lot of others did nothing to serve our country in those days.

As far as government files go, I sent for some medical records once and my doctor got a letter saying I'd been killed in a hotel fire in Atlanta, I'd never been to Atlanta, and I certainly wasn't killed in a fire, that I can remember anyway.
Later when they half assed corrected their books they sent another letter saying that since they thought I was dead my medical records were now lost in a warehouse in Virgina. Probably in a cardboard box sitting on the crate holding the Ark Of the Covenent right next to the jar holding Hitler's brain.

   
Stopping the war:

Here is yet another feeble attempt to get the President and All the President's Men in Congress to listen.  Instead, I would like to send this letter:

Dear Mr. President, Vice President Cheney and All Members of Congress:

With regards to voting on another bill (or in your case Mr. President, vetoing another bill) to begin bringing our troops home, let's try doing a little role-playing beforehand.

All of you men and women, go home.  Take a good look at your children; especially those of you with college-aged children, (and yes; that includes you Mr. President) which is the age of most of those in Iraq.  

Imagine sending them to Baghdad instead of Brown.

Instead of you praying they WILL be on the dean's list, praying that they WON'T be on the injured or casualty list.

Instead of helping them find a job after college, helping them walk, talk, or deal with post traumatic stress after a battlefield injury.  

Instead of receiving an email requesting more money for food, receiving an email requesting better body armor and stronger bomb-resistent vehicles.  

Instead of opening the door to a surprise visit from your child, opening the door to a "surprise" visit from the military casualty notification team.

Instead of visiting them on Parent's Day, visiting them at Walter Reed, or at the cemetary.

Sincerely,

All of us with loved ones in Iraq.




 
First of all, Clyde, just a small note...it's not possible for Edward R. Murrow to spin in his grave, as he was cremated.

Second, there's definitely an OlbermannWatch invasion going on here. The derisive posts with persistent references to "Olby," and now this latest one containing a reference to The News Hole as "The Bung Hole" and to a "bath tub," make that abundantly clear.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I was really enjoying being able to discuss Countdown in a place where dissent was welcome, but the anti-Keith trolling and pure unadulterated flaming hatred was kept to a minimum. If whoever approves these posts is just going to let it go unchecked, I'm going to have second thoughts about saying anything here in the future.

Please, Countdowners, think about it. The Internets really don't need another place where the Keith-haters flame away with impunity.  


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