World peace cannot be dependent upon governments as Bush would have you believe. Assuming stability would come to Iraq once a government had been put in place was a crock. Nationalism and pride in one's country is the basis on which a people build a stable and cooperative society. If those who are chosen to govern that society are corrupt or dishonest they damage the very fabric of the people's nationalism, pride and cooperative foundation. This has been the case for the US under Bush and it is the case for the Iraqi people under their current leadership (if you can call it a legitimate leadership). In the case of Iraq yes, Saddam was a sadistic leader that needed one day to be removed, but the Iraqi people themselves still had a sense of nationalism that they do not have today under the US occupation.  

World peace has to be created from the bottom up, not from the top down. Governments (the top) can meet all they want, threaten all they want, promise all they want, but cannot guarantee nor force world peace. It has to begin with the people (the bottom). It begins with one sincere American becoming friendly with a reciprocating friendly Iraqi and vice-versa. And then another and another and another until indvidual friendly relationships grow to become a collective friendly relationship. It takes an Iraqi business man shaking the hand with an American business man over a deal that benefits both parties. It takes a 15 year old American student befriending a 15 year old Iraqi student (exchanging ideas and experiences), it takes individuals in theatre, sports, gardening, law enforcement, the arts, parenting, health & medicine, whatever from the US and from Iraq sharing their interests and love for their interests and thereby developing a relationship through those things important to both parties. It takes just one such relationship to start the process followed by others that will eventually grow intro a collective bond.      

No sane American likes war, death and destruction and no sane Iraqi likes war, death and destruction. Those Iraqi women we see on television who have lost a child to war are just as distraught and in anguish as any Amercian mother would be over the loss of one of their children. The same holds true for fathers, grandparents and extended family members as well as friends and neighbors. So why is there violence, fighting, death and destruction? It is becauase we allow governments or fanatical leaders to decide for us, the people of Amercian and Iraq,and many other parts of the world how we are going to live and die and what price we will pay for their twisted goals and objectives whatever they might be.

If 20,000 Americans visited 20,000 Iraqis tomorrow in a small town in Iraq to share a meal, to share ideas, to play a little soccer, to learn of one another and to simply enjoy each other's company, 40,000 people would have a wonderful time, unless the event was shattered and ruined by others (government officials as Bush or fanatical leaders as Bin Laden). Two people able to influence others in a manner that it could ruin a wonderful gathering between to separate peoples. As I stated, world peace must come from the people and in cases where we need to start over through one friendship at a time until a collective bond can be developed. Unfortunately, the damage done by the terrorists leaders and the damage done by Bush will require years and years of relationship building before we even get back to pre-911.

#1. The future of WIcca in AMerica is in Harry's hands. #2. Gimme all yer money, and hold the anchovies, I'll be one in ten minutes. #3. Sounds like Rudy better over-insure his house for smoke damage. #4. Next thing you know, all the Democrats in D.C. will want to use the White House john. #5. Sounds like those Halliburton Stocks are paying off for Al Qaeda, huh?

Thank you GW and Cheney and Rumsfield and to any others who have supported this administration for setting us back several hundreds of years in our fight against terorism. Thank you for not having a clue how to effectively fight terrorism across the glode and to do your best to protect the American people. Thank you for absolutely nothing.          
C A, Tuscaloosa, Al (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:33 AM)

C A - thank you for this most accurate and awesome post!!

SHUT UP SCOTT!! C A WOULD EAT YOUR LUNCH TRAITOR!!

Damn- looks like Scott Henderson crawled outta church, and managed to get hold of Rush Screwbaugh's one-and-only, orginal 'truth detector', and is fixing to use it to whup up on CA Tuscaloosa!  Geez, CA- I think you ought to counter with that beer bottle up 'side his head!  But, uh-oh...no.... wait! Him (Scott) be smart.  Him got 'truth filter'.  Me vote for him, now!  BuBuBuBu.....

Scott: You state not one point I make is correct but do not state specifically why except to add criticism that I am wrong. So name one point in my anaylysis that is wrong. Just one. Be specific. And no I do not get my thoughts and ideas from KO, far from it. No one thinks for me. They are mine and mine alone.  

Scott: You state not one point I make is correct but do not state specifically why except to add criticism that I am wrong. So name one point in my anaylysis that is wrong. Just one. Be specific. And no I do not get my thoughts and ideas from KO, far from it. No one thinks for me. They are mine and mine alone.  

Hey. How about if Countdown went through the past White House statements to point out some the of the lying and spin they have been guilty of rather than give Harry Potter more publicity? You know, pick up the slack from pretty much every other outlet other than the Daily Show. Just an idea.

Ok C A. Lets start here you said “Give one no enemy and their hatred and desire to do violence will fade.”  That statement is false and ignores history.  History is replete with power mongers who use violence to obtain and consolidate power.  Just by showing no hate toward the power mongers would not stop them or prevent violence.  That statement is utopian nonsense, CA and I don’t mean to offend.

Leave Scott alone - he's a Troll, Kool Aid Addict, and can't keep his eyes and ears off Faux We-Make-Up-The-News, Rush Bimbo, Bore Boortz, Bill O'Liar, and the rest of those scum bags.  His medical alert bracelet lists a severe allergy to the truth.

Polly wanna talking point?

Why are you engaging scott? There is no point. Soon Jesus will come down and take scott and bush up to heaven, leaving the rest of us scratching our heads wondering how to clean up their mess.

Sue & JW - I know you are both right!! I find it very strange with Scott's vast "historical brilliance", he is unaware of the country Switzerland!! It appears from my perspective that "minding their own business" has sure worked out for them!!

Yeah Sue, "Polly Wanna Scott” is quite the piece of work and hopefully he'll keep all of his brilliance contained in his pea-sized brain!! Was someone speaking of an imminent threat? Looking at Nevada!!

PEACE!!

JW, Chicago (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:58 PM)

Now that is a brilliant idea!! Talking LIES from the White House would indeed be "must see TV"!!

PEACE!!

Yowsa - Harris Poll today has BushCo at 26% approval - identical to Nixon's at the height of Watergate.

My questions:  What the hell is wrong with those 26%?

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:15 PM)  Of course one can always turn a blind eye to the Swiss collaboration with the Nazi's.  You are undoubtedly aware that a good number of Jews prior to the holocaust placed their money in Swiss banks.  When survivors of the death camps tried to access their families accounts, they were denied access.  Unfortunately for the victims, Auschwitz, Sobibor, Treblinka, and the like didn’t provide death certificates to prove the demise of parents or siblings.  At the same time these Swiss banks funneled millions to fugitive Nazis in South America.  Yes tell me all about the gentle and peace loving Swiss.

JW, Chicago (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:01 PM),  Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:00 PM)  

LOL!  I can always tell when I hit a nerve while poking the donkey,  it starts to kick and make funny noises.  

funneled millions to fugitive Nazis in South America.  Yes tell me all about the gentle and peace loving Swiss.
scott henderson nv (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:46 PM)

No, I believe this was PRESCOTT BUSH!! Grandpa to both horrors 41 and 43!! CIAO!!

C A, Tuscaloosa, you hit the nail on the head when you state that the Iraqi mothers are just as distraught as any American mother would be at the loss of a precious child. Many from this administration state,"But they are just Iraqis...." Meaning precisely what? They are less than humans, they do not have the capacity for caring, they deserve to be treated like dirt? Thanks for bringing up the human side of this unjust war.

Regarding Chertoff's "gut feeling", should we be getting out the duct tape?

scott (small caps) doesn't care about the truth. In his own, mostly one-syllable words, he only cares about poking the donkey and making it kick. Hey scott (small caps) if you take a step or two backwards, you might retract your head from said burro's behind and let a little sunshine into your eyes.

Pam Pignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:13 PM)  So Pam I guess this is your attempt to prove my point about the ideological filters.   Yous ideology says the Swiss are good, and Bush is bad so it must have been Bush family that collaborated with the Nazis not the Swiss.   Ignore logic and truth as usual Pam it is to be expected.  

LOL PA - Historical reminder - Chertoff was the guy that told us to stock up on plastic sheeting and duct tape after 9/11.

I have a gut feeling:  This guy is still full of $hit.

LOL PA - Historical reminder - Chertoff was the guy that told us to stock up on plastic sheeting and duct tape after 9/11.
I have a gut feeling:  This guy is still full of $hit.
Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:32 PM)

I thought it was Tom Ridge that said that.  Didn't he even say that he had a safe place in his home?

We were living in the UK (home on leave during the attacks), and the whole duct tape and plastic sheeting made quite the comical headlines in the UK.

Duct tape and plastic sheeting.  Okay, but without some super-duper air processor that brought in clean air-you'd suffocate.

Hmmm, maybe that was their plan all along.:)

Timmy, Milwaukee WI (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:25 PM)  Hey, little timmy boy.  Are you on the right blog this time, you are regularly referring to asses and such and last I recall you were “waiting breathlessly” for a description of an act on a young boy, or something like that?

Timmy, Milwaukee WI (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:25 PM)

LOL!! Diet pepsi all over computer screen!! Timmy, I love your posts!!

Timmy - PS: I guess I should also ignore those pesky facts like William Jefferson Clinton was elected president in 1992, NOT 1996 for the first time as these neo cons state.  

SHAME ON ME!! Seriously though, you are too funny!!

Jamie & Sue - It was Tom Ridge then sent me flying to Home Depot - NOT; however, with all the stupid things they've said and all the lies they've told, who can keep the BS straight!!

PEACE!!

Here you go "Small Caps Scott" -

The president of the Florida Holocaust Museum, George W. Bush's grandfather derived a portion of his personal fortune through his affiliation with a Nazi-controlled bank.

John Loftus, a former prosecutor in the Justice Department's Nazi War Crimes Unit, stated Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was a principal in the Union Banking Corp. in Manhattan in the late 1930s and the 1940s. Leading Nazi industrialists secretly owned the bank at that time, Loftus said, and were moving money into it through a second bank in Holland even after the United States declared war on Germany.

The bank was liquidated in 1951, Loftus said, and Bush's grandfather and great-grandfather received $1.5 million from the bank as part of that dissolution.

That's where the Bush family fortune came from.

Wrong again SMALL CAPS!! I enjoy facts and love to point out your fiction!! CIAO!!

Jamie - Nope.  Tom Ridge said plenty of BS things, but it was skeletal creep Chertoff that made that remark.  It became an issue when he testified in front of Congress for his Homeland Security confirmation hearings because it was really bad advice.

Pam Pignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:12 PM)  Keep it up Pamie, you prove my point for me every time you post.

Aha:  Okay Sue, I'm one of those people that always has to question, so I did (I love the internet).  Anyway, we were both wrong, it was U.S. Fire Administrator David Paulison's idea about the duct tape and plastic sheeting.  Ridge just defended him.:)

BTW, Paulison was appointed as the Administrator of FEMA after heckuva job Brownie resigned.

Scott, NV; Like i told you a while back, C A's filter's are working fine. Clean your filter's of all that Bush & Fox debris and your thought's will become clearer & Brighter.

Thank's Don

Scott, tsk tsk tsk.  Did Timmy get you all hot and bothered, small caps?

You REALLY need to lay off the homosexually based attacks Scott.  While I used your propensity for that kind of behavior to make you look like a bigger fool that usual, the jokes about you being closeted are sounding less and less like a joke.  You clearly have issues.  Deal with them before the self-loathing destroys you.  Or not.

Btw, your writing has improved.  

You're welcome.

Pam in San Pedro -
"We need something besides "gut feelings" and political posturing from this White House. Unfortunately, ladies and gentlemen, we have been set up by the best friend bin Laden and al-Qaeda could have asked for: the Bush Administration!
Niels, in no laughing mood in Post-Katrina MS (Sent Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:44 PM)

Your sentiments could not be more on target!! Thank you!!"

Thank YOU, m'dear! You fight the good fight here every day, and 'tis much appreciated! We can only keep on keepin' on, I suppose, keep the pressure on our elected representatives, and press forward toward the day the Bush-Cheney Traveling Circus is run out of town.

The latest guff from Der Uberbubba is just more evidence that he will delay, demure and obfuscate until he can duck out the door and blame his successor for it all going down the flue.

Still "mad as hell" down here in Bayou DeGradeabelle!

Todd:  What else do these Bush supporters like Scott have to come back with these days?  There is no logic to what they say because there is no logic to what this administration does.  It boggles my mind when I hear people that I KNOW are relatively intelligent come up with the most lame excuses for all of the complete incompetence this administration has shown.  Just like our president (small letters) they are too arrogant and stubborn to admit that they are totally misguided and were complete idiots for voting for bush (again; small caps), not once BUT TWICE!

Pam Pignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:12 PM)  Keep it up Pamie, you prove my point for me every time you post.
scott henderson nv (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:01 PM)

Hey "Small Caps" -

NEWSFLASH- Holland has never been annexed into Switzerland!! Thanks for proving your ignorance once more!!

"A second bank in Holland even after the United States declared war on Germany".

As Todd suggested, deal with your "issues" and come and talk with adults when you reach driving age!! CIAO!!

BTW, Paulison was appointed as the Administrator of FEMA after heckuva job Brownie resigned.
Jamie, Chula Vista, CA (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:18 PM)

That figures!! Thanks Jamie, as I thought it was Tom Ridge also; however, it could because he came marching out on TV, flashing the newest terror trump card all those times George W. Bush was in trouble in the polls or caught lying.  

PEACE!!

As Todd has stated, your writing skills have improved, yet your knowledge of history and current events remains deplorable. It might be helpful for you to have a map of the world handy when reviewing this. You're welcome!!

The grandfather of President George Walker Bush (Skull & Bones, 1968) was Prescott Bush (Skull & Bones, 1917), and his great grand father was George Herbert Walker. Prescott Bush and George Herbert (Bert) Walker were directors of the London-affiliated New York banking house of Brown Brothers-Harriman and its various fronts, which funded and directed the military-industrial complex behind Hitler and the Nazi revolution.

In 1919, George Herbert Walker had organized W.A. Harriman & Co which merged with the British Brown Brothers in 1931. In 1924, Averell Harriman (Skull & Bones, 1913) and Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist who began funding Hitler in 1923, set up the Union Banking Corp in New York to handle funds supplied to it through Thyssen's Dutch bank for American investment. Prescott Bush, who had been an officer of the W.A. Harriman bank since 1926, was a director of the Union Banking Corp from 1934 through 1943. According to government documents, "all of the shares of the Union Banking Corp., were held for the benefit of members of the Thyssen family."

The federal government did not crack down on the Bush-Harriman/Nazi operation until 1942. After the war, Congressional investigation revealed that Fritz Thyssen's German Steel Trust, Germany's largest industrial corporation [which interlocked with Union Banking Corporation] produced a high percentage of Germany's national output of metal products and explosives. Vesting Orders signed by the Office of Alien Property Custodian, Leo T. Crowley, which were "published in obscure government record books and kept out of the news, explained nothing about the Nazis involved; only that the Union Banking Corporation was run for the 'Thyssen family' of 'Germany and/or Hungary'-- 'nationals...of a designated enemy country.'"

"In October 1942, ten months after entering World War II, America was preparing its first assault against Nazi military forces. Prescott Bush was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. His 18-year-old son George, the future U.S. President, had just begun training to become a naval pilot. On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush.

"Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland 'Bunny' Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush. 1.

'E. Roland Harriman--3991 shares' [chairman and director of Union Banking Corp. (UBC); this is 'Bunny' Harriman, described by Prescott Bush as a place holder who didn't get much into banking affairs; Prescott managed his personal investments]

'Cornelis Lievense--4 shares' [president and director of UBC; New York resident banking functionary for the Nazis]

'Harold D. Pennington--1 share' [treasurer and director of UBC; an office manager employed by Bush at Brown Brothers Harriman]

'Ray Morris--1 share' [director of UBC; partner of Bush and the Harrimans]

'Prescott S. Bush--1 share' [director of UBC, which was co-founded and sponsored by his father-in-law George Walker; senior managing partner for E. Roland Harriman and Averell Harriman]

'H.J. Kouwenhoven--1 share' [director of UBC; organized UBC as the emissary of Fritz Thyssen in negotiations with George Walker and Averell Harriman; managing director of UBC's Netherlands affiliate under Nazi occupation; industrial executive in Nazi Germany; director and chief foreign financial executive of the German Steel Trust]

'Johann G. Groeninger--1 share' [director of UBC and of its Netherlands affiliate; industrial executive in Nazi Germany]

"all of which shares are held for the benefit of ... members of the Thyssen family, [and] is property of nationals ... of a designated enemy country...."

"By Oct. 26, 1942, U.S. troops were under way for North Africa. On Oct. 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation. 2.

"U.S. forces landed under fire near Algiers on Nov. 8, 1942; heavy combat raged throughout November. Nazi interests in the Silesian-American Corporation, long managed by Prescott Bush and his father-in-law George Herbert Walker, were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act on Nov. 17, 1942. In this action, the government announced that it was seizing only the Nazi interests, leaving the Nazis' U.S. partners to carry on the business. 3.

"These and other actions taken by the U.S. government in wartime were, tragically, too little and too late. President Bush's family had already played a central role in financing and arming Adolf Hitler for his takeover of Germany; in financing and managing the buildup of Nazi war industries for the conquest of Europe and war against the U.S.A.; and in the development of Nazi genocide theories and racial propaganda, with their well-known results.

"The facts presented here must be known, and their implications reflected upon, for a proper understanding of President George Herbert Walker Bush and of the danger to mankind that he represents. The President's family fortune was largely a result of the Hitler project. The powerful Anglo-American family associations, which later boosted him into the Central Intelligence Agency and up to the White House, were his father's partners in the Hitler project." 4.

How and to what extent did the Bush family direct the Hitler Project from the 1920s until it was partially broken up in 1942? "In what way were Hitler's Nazis themselves hired, armed and instructed by the New York and London clique of which Prescott Bush was an executive manager?"

Equally germane is the question why? "How important was the Nazi enterprise for which President Bush's father was the New York banker?" What possible interest would George Herbert Walker and Prescott Bush have had in overseeing the Nazi operation?

Just like our president (small letters) they are too arrogant and stubborn to admit that they are totally misguided and were complete idiots for voting for bush (again; small caps), not once BUT TWICE!
LA, Seattle (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:01 PM)

How right you are; and I have said before, sadly it is those like you and me, who NEVER voted for the incompetent moron, who are also paying the price for their irresponsible votes!! Even if I agreed with any of his policies, which I never have, I knew in 2000 this idiot was not competent to be president.  Shame on them!! SMALL LETTERS INDEED!!

PEACE & PRAYERS!!

Pam, and all after the last few days, I really needed a chill pill, I don't take anything but advil, so I tried to not blog so much.. You all say pretty much my feelings and sometimes I get a good laugh.. Thanks all for that.

Ya know what terror is.. it's placing fear into people, and the Bush Thug Bunch do that almost on a daily basis. I feel they are more the terrorist than the terrorists they terrorize us with...

Well whats the line today
(A) Nothing to see here, just a little smoke, move along now.
(B) Al-Qu'ida bigger threat than ever!!!!!

It's taken 5 years for al-Qu'ida to regain its pre 911 strength, Even with all the morale support the Dem's have been giving them, yet they are using up all their best trained opperatives in Iraq and haven't been able to do diddly outside Iraq for years now.
The Taliban leader that claimed he had ten thousand troops died like a dog without enough men around him to hide his corpse.
Just how much of al-Qu'ida's strength is on paper?

Looks like there may soon be a realistic effort in Waziristan. With Pakistani military support on the ground along with local Tribal Leaeders who have a blood feud against al-Qu'ida over assassinations of Tribal Elders opposed to al-Quida.
The Fatwah declaring Bin Laden Apostate will come in handy now, since it relieves the Tribes from the obligation of guest rights.
Lets hope they've finally got the place mapped out properly.

Jamie - You're right - it was Paulson's hearings where it came up.  These clowns are all so similarly foolish and incompetent that I get them confused.  Thanks for setting the record right.

I knew it wasn't Tom Ridge, but thought it was Skeletor.  In fact, it was Paulson.  I can't tell  these looneys apart lol.

I knew that the duct tape and plastic sheeting were no good.  You need a whole lot of lead to block radiation which is why X-Ray rooms are specially constructed and have lead core doors and the techs stand behind lead glass.  It will just zip thru anything else.

They're all as dumb as stones in the BushCo Admin.

What's with the Prescott Bush bashing all of a sudden?
One investor in the Bank P Bush worked for had financed Hitler early on then when he realized what Hitler was up to denounced him and ended up in a Concentration camp after pro Nazi French agents kidnapped him in Switzerland.
Prescott Bush was cleared of any charges and, among other great works, became a Founding Member of the United Negro College Fund.

The Swiss Government at last count included 28% of its seats held by Neo-Nazis.

Timmy, Milwaukee WI (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:25 PM)

"LOL!! Diet pepsi all over computer screen!! Timmy, I love your posts!!


Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California"

gotta be anither R O hack (U R a dime a dozen) Say something not found in a 7 yr olds chat room next time

"It had nothing whatsoever to do with the health and well-being of those firefighters still searching for their lost comrades"
Then I guess all those who contracted diseases from handling the debris must be liars in your book.

Ground up Human remains breed catastropic diseases.
A mass of such remains left in place in the city could trigger city wide epidemics.

Big Nards leaves out a lot and I dobt most of what her post contains

Heres a bit on the German Investor.
"Thyssen accepted the exclusion of Jews from German business and professional life by the Nazis, and dismissed his own Jewish employees, but he did not share Hitler's violent anti-Semitism. As a Catholic, he also objected to the increasing repression of the Roman Catholic Church, which gathered pace after 1935. The breaking point for Thyssen was the violent pogrom against the Jews in November 1938 known as Kristallnacht, which caused him to resign from the Council of State. By 1939 he was also bitterly criticising the regime's economic policies, which were subordinating everything to rearmament in preparation for war. [1]
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In September 1939 World War II broke out. Thyssen sent Hermann Goering a telegram saying he was opposed to the war, shortly before leaving for Switzerland with his family. He was expelled from the Nazi Party and the Reichstag, and his company was briefly nationalised. It was returned to other members of the Thyssen family some years after the war. In 1940 Thyssen moved to France, intending to immigrate to Argentina, but was caught by the German occupation of France. He was arrested and taken back to Germany, where he was confined, first in a sanatorium near Berlin, then from 1943 in Sachsenhausen concentration camp. In February 1945 he was sent to Dachau concentration camp"

Thyssen was cleared by the War Crimes commisions.

The Smear campaign against Prescott Bush is an old one and long ago debunked.

Thank you Pam and others. I shall respond in kind by posting that I enjoy your and others' posts a great deal. We true Americans need to stick together in this time of darkness, as this too shall pass.

As for scot (small caps), at least his stupidity has not cost thousands of young Americans their lives.

Also in scott's (small caps) case, I'm sure the Nevada sun has baked some of his already limited supply of brain matter, so we should try to cut him some slack. Think of him as a slightly malfunctional invalid.

However I feel it is part of my duty as an American to tell you scott (small caps), blind partisanship is not an admirable quality. Politics is not sports. You can blindly cheer for "your team" all the time, it's a free country after all, but when they're getting their asses handed to them over and over, you just look like an obnoxious boor who refuses to accept the reality that your "team" sucks.

Sometimes you have to let that go, do some research independent from the sources who shout the loudest and come to realize what is best for our country.

Here's a clue - normally those who shout the loudest do so because they don't want anyone to hear what the other side has to say (see - O'Reilly, Hannity, et al). If that doesn't turn on a light switch for you, then you're beyond help.  

Lastly scott (small caps), lighten up, you'll live longer. There are many people in the world - some of them are rather large people, I'm sure - who would not take kindly to loud mouths who think it is funny to taunt someone for being gay, whether they truly are gay or not.

That kind of "humor" could get you squashed like a bug. I know right wingers think it is hilarious to put people down for things they can't help about themselves, but I advise you to try and reign it in. People get shot every day for less.

I'm going out on a limb and guessing that Chertoff's gut has got shit for brains.

Todd, New Orleans, LA (Sent Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:21 PM)  Todd..  I sliced and diced you like a sushi chef.  Don't start with me again unless you want more of the same...  Although maybe you are one who likes handcuffs, black leather, and chains?

Our country should take Bush’s actions as a wakeup call. All government institutions should get together and create new laws to prevent such impunity from the executive branch ever again. Because of all the bad things during this administration, maybe the worst is that no one will ever pay for their wrongdoings that have caused so much pain, suffer and death to so, so many, and yet claim history will vindicate them big time.

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