Well, laa-dee-freakin'-daa, I'm sure his $hit smells like roses, too.

People should start showing up at his rallies dressed like snowmen.

This ahole really takes the cake you know it?  He doesn't like questions from the American people because they may have a little fun while posing the questions BUT is willing to pose with a BIGOT and a look like a real ass.  Mitt,  buddy, keep digging.  

He deffineately thinks like the Bush Thug Bunch.. he's above everyone ELSE!! grrrr... Kiss Off Mitt, who made you GOD.. dag.. Bushy Boy, passing his Godliness down to you? No Sense of humor in this bung hole I guess..

I love the fact that "real" Americans were able to submit questions of the candidates.  I also thought the snowman was a pretty ingenious way of asking about global warning.  Mitt et al are just afraid to field questions that they aren't briefed on ahead of time.  They need to lighten up and have some fun.  It would be nice to see and hear them in a more casual atmosphere, as it was when the Democrats did it.

This is Romney trying to appear (say in a very deep and tonorous voice) "presidential".

Actually, when he was a young child, he was most likely frightened by Frosty.

What an elitist comment!  Say Mitt, if you want respect, you have to earn respect.

If you think very many people in this country respect George Bush, think again.

What?  Have REAL questions posed by REAL Americans?  How dare they!!  All of these republicans refusing to join the YouTube debate are scared to death of real people asking them questions about their support for the clusterf*ck Iraq war, about their support for the Commander Incompetent, but especially their non-support of gay rights - - can't let them gays get married or have civil rights - then there would be chaos!  Cats and dogs living together, people having sex with goats!  I hate to inform these guys but the people most likely to have sex with farm animals ARE the people that support these republicans.

So Mitt likes to use YouTube to his advantage, but doesn't want to face it otherwise. I am dying of "not surprised". The boy sounds more and more like a self-basting dead duck.

Mitt needs to get over himself.  I would be really surprised if a Republican made it to the oval office after '43' -- he'd have to be amazing, and that's not Mitt.

One of the morning radio show hosts that I listen to has been promoting a 'GRIP' campaign.  It stands for Get Rid of Incumbent Politicians.  If we keep throwing the bums out of office after one term, then they have less time to be thoroughly corrupted.  So here's how it goes.

During the next election in 2008, we all hold our noses and all vote Democratic.  In 2010, we give the democratic president a Republican house. In 2012, we all hold our noses and all vote Republican.  In 2014, we give the republican president a Democratic house.  

In the senate, because of the six year terms, we just vote against the incumbent -- it's not as neat as the House is when every one is up for re-election every other year.  

Another advantage, the stock market loves a divided government -- when Congress is one party and the president is the other.

Once we get all the 'old' fat cat politicians out, pork barrel spending is harder to accomplish.  Maybe, just maybe, we can get a country of the people and for the people, run by the people.  

Since it involves half of the country holding their nose every other election, it'll never get done.  But wouldn't it be nice?  

BYU sucks, Worms crawl out their butts;
I'd rather suck my armpit blue,
THAN GO TO SCHOOL AT BYU!!!!!!

Oh Hairpiece, you make me laugh so.  You, like all politicians, are an IDIOT.  Respect?  Let me remind you and the rest of you grafty brethren that respect is EARNED, not OWED due to your TITLE.  I respect the OFFICE OF PRESIDENT, but George Bush is a traitorous lying jackass worthy of only disrespect.  You, Mitt, are only a jackass from what I can tell but you have earned no respect yet.  In fact, most evidence point to you talking out of both sides of your mouth like Janus on meth.  You will say ANYTHING to get a vote, won't you, worm?  Afraid to take SCREENED questions, Mitt?  What a wuss.  And I have a technical question.

How do you get your hair to stay cemented in place and yet maintain the high gloss shine?  I am betting a combination of carnuba car wax and olive oil but my buddy is say he thinks it's industrial varnish with high tech relaxing solvents to keep the surface uniform, waterproof and pliant while preventing cracking and yellowing.  Some have postulated that it may be molded plastic embedded with memory metal filaments.  Just curious.

Vick indicted in dogfighting case


Just in time for the premiere of Underdog. Coincidence I don't think so


Think about it???

He said what???  Good grief, if that's all he has to worry about, then, 'snow-men' should be in ALL future debates, questions, etc.
And, his denomination is very 'anti' most anything except the man rules the house, the country, the world, women should remain at home, "barefoot and pregnant" mentality.
So, why are 'snow' people a problem, really?  Maybe because the image helps confront us with some of the real problems in the world - like, "global warming" climate change, and the environment.
If there is no humor involved, then, there should be no person allowed in the debates who doesn't have a good sense of humor.
Or, just let 'em run rampant, like our p.Resident, and do whatever they will, however they 'will it' - like just ignore the Constitution - as in, "this too shall pass."  NOT in my lifetime, if I have anything to say about it.
WE the People, still have the right to review and listen to those who wish to become President of the United States.  It's called 'weeding out' those who are not capable of doing a good job, for US.
Sure, maybe the issue was taken out of context, or maybe he was simply trying to make a point.  He missed the mark!  It backfired!

What a pussy.  A stepford politician if ever there was one.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:58 PM)
I was thinking the same thing about one term and throwing them out.. all those in all the bodies of government up there have been in way to long... I think it's sad the way that Senator Byrd looked while trying to discuss the dog fighting thing..

bob (Sent Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:19 PM)

I do not like Mit Romney at all!! I find him to be a hypocrite, a self-serving liar and is full of himself; however, PLEASE do not bring his religious faith into this. It is bigoted and it is wrong.

There's plenty of ammo to use against this political acrobat, but when you insult his faith, or basically all Mormons, you cross a line.  You just did!! Not right and not nice!!

Well, well, well - Another LIE exposed by George W. Bush; as when he gave his "PANTS ON FIRE" surge speech to the nation in January of this year, he told a much different story.  Iraq was taking over projects and had committed to billions of dollars for reconstruction!!

Ok President Bombsalsot, not only did you intentionally orchestrate the deaths of thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, destroyed a sovereign nation because "you wanted to" and wreaked havoc on millions of innocent human beings, you have now been exposed yet again for intentionally lying to the American people and putting billions of more dollars into the pockets of your corporate buddies!! How DO you sleep at night??  

Associated Press

BAGHDAD - "The Iraqi government has refused to take control of more than 2,000 U.S.-funded reconstruction projects, a move that could jeopardize the country’s credit line and cost American taxpayers, according to a report by an American watchdog agency.

The Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction said the government here initially agreed to take over the projects but the transfers stalled about a month after Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki took office in May 2006.

That forced U.S. officials to turn the reconstruction to local officials or to commit more money to keep them running.

The report, which was dated Wednesday, found that no completed projects had been transferred to the national government since June 30, 2006. It said 2,362 completed projects valued at $5.3 billion were pending as of May 31.

The Washington-based agency warned that delays in transferring the projects meant less collateral for the Iraqi government in seeking loans “and could result in additional sustainment expenses for the U.S. governmental agencies that completed the projects.”

The report singled out Finance Minister Bayan Jabr, who it said had changed government conditions for the transfers, effectively halting the process at the national level in July 2006.

Jabr and other Finance Ministry representatives could not be reached for comment, and al-Maliki’s spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said he had no information about the report."

NO INFORMATION?  Of course not, they’re all on VACATION; as Tony “Pants on Fire Puppet” Snow explained to the “I’m wearing a sign that says I’m stupid on my forehead” Americans, it’s too hot there!!

Well, where all of you are headed when you leave Planet Earth will pale in comparison!!

FUMING IN SAN PEDRO!!

Brenda;  
I like most of your posts, but, I must disagree with you - Re: Senator Byrd: Yes, he is old... and, is close to retiring - however, he remains one of the great "orators" of our Legislative Body - He is the
longest serving Senator, I think, in the history of the U.S. Senate, and will reach his last term in office, this session.  Let him leave with pride and dignity.

Also, I was just as outraged as he, about the killing practices of those who promote dog fights, and had to turn away from the news coverage of it... because they showed the dogs fighting, and hauling away the corpses of the dogs who 'lost' their battle.

I further submit, more people should be just as outraged by this kind of cruel, and inhumane treatment of "mans best friend."
If, we become so calloused toward such activity, and critical of those who oppose it - albeit a Senator - we lose the deepest core values we have as a Nation.
Dogs are intended as 'domestic' pets, or for breeding purposes, NOT for someones' foul sense of pleasure and  joy - thrill of making a fast 'buck' and, laughter, glee at the senseless slaughtering of innocence.

Otherwise, I do appreciate the posts which you have written thus far... Keep up the good work.

I agree the republicans should be in this debate, but I don't hear anybody here chastising the defeatocrats for skipping Fox's debate.  lest you all forget, more people watch Fox that about 5 CNN and MSNBC's combined... : )

My goal in the next election is to vote out every incumbant running for re-election.  Time for a shake up,  get someone who really wants to do the people's business.  Here in Indiana we have had Dan Burton,  golf pro,  as a congressman for years.  He makes me sick,  all smug and self important.  He missed 27 votes (not sick,  golfing!) in January and no one here even complained!  We (voters) let him get away with it by not expecting more from him.  I will vote for anyone BUT him from now on. If he wins again in two years at least I will know I didn't contribute to putting him back in office.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to find that there's gambling going on ..... er ..... Repignikants who don't want any part of a debate where the questions aren't pre-vetted, sanitized, and a pre-prepared talking point already memorized for them to recite.  Folks, they want the vote of the sheeple ....er .... people, not their questions or scrutiny.

It looks like CNN got some smarts - they have postponed the YouTube debate (new date not yet established).   I wonder what new excuse the Repugnikants are going to come up with since the "scheduling conflicts" excuse won't work this time.  Read more:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/28/cnn-debate-postponed/

Carol, Long Valley NJ

I posted almost the same thing awhile back, saying we should vote out "all" incumbent's till they get the message. Making the good suffer for the bad like some of the laws they place on the people do.

Since then I thought more about it, not sure what other problem's that might create. Maybe if more voter's cared and thought more about the vote they cast, as most of us here do instead of looking at the voting process as just another chore that they rush in to do, many even forget and when you ask they say oh was that today.

Maybe if their was more actual oversight including more over the executive branch with stronger serious consequences. Instead of some member's on these committee's that worry about party damage or maybe getting cought later in the precedent they help set.

Carol thank's for your post, i'm just thinking & would like to here other's opinion's

Ro H, Hesperia, CA (Sent Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:42 AM)
I wasn't really dissing Byrd.. I agree with you that yes he was a great orator.. It just took so long for him and he just stood there.. I think he was a very good Senator.. I feel sorry for him.. his Parkisons is really bad, that is what causes the bad shaking.. his mind just is not as crisp as it should be.. god bless him..
I don't like people fighting dogs either.. and it really made me angry that people even when the dog doesn't want to fight keep pushing them.. like in the video Keith had on his show.. These people should never be allowed to own any pet.. to me that is cruelty :( I have a dog myself.. not a pitbull he's part Dacshund and Chihuahua and he is treated as a child would be.. and spoiled rotten.. he loves everyone.. I am sure this is one of the reasons these dogs have ended up they way they are.. and I agree with you..
I also enjoy your posts.. please believe I do not think that I am against him personally he was a good Senator.. I just think alot of these people have been in way to long.. I do believe that is the point I was trying to put forth...

"My church has long ago given up that practice" was Mitt Romney's response to Chris Matthews' inquiry about polygamy back when the television series "Big Love" was getting a lot of coverage and Romney later made remarks about his personal distaste for the very concept of polygamy.  As a former temple recommend holding Mormon for over a decade, I don't know what to make of Romney's remarks, but something is definitely wrong here.  It was my decision not to remain a member of the Mormon church because I found I could not accept certain Mormon doctrines, (they don't lay everything on the table initially, so it takes a while to come in contact with everything the Mormon church actually teaches), but I've never felt "anti-Mormon."    We practice freedom of religion in this country.  I found the Mormons overwhelmingly to be exemplary Christians in their daily lives and my personal experience was, overall, extremely positive.  I think Mormon people are a tremendous force for good in the world.  I do believe that a Mormon could be a great president precisely because of their profound commitment to the principle of free agency, which is viewed as an endowment from God to every human being.  But it has to say something about Romney's character and his suitability to serve as the President of the United States that he chose to go beyond the accurate statement that the official Mormon church abandoned the practice of polygamy long ago, to make remarks about how abhorrent he finds polygamy to be personally.  The official Mormon church may have abandoned the practice of polygamy during this period in U.S. history, but their very concept of heaven is a polygamous design and that teaching has not changed.  Mormon men who are judged to be worthy of the highest blessings God has to offer the faithful in heaven will live forever producing spiritual progeny with their multiple wives.  He can't have it both ways.  Governor Romney may not practice polygamy in the 21st century United States since it is illegal (though some of his ancestors apparently did for a time) but if he is keeping the covenants he would make as a good Mormon, he knows polygamy is Heavenly Father's plan for eternity.  As long as my creator-bestowed free agency to choose for myself what I will believe and how to live is not interfered with, I don't have a problem with how many wives (or virgins) a man believes he will be rewarded with in heaven (if he doesn't harm others to obtain them.)  But I don't want fundamentalist Islamists, fundamentalist Christians, or anyone else instilling their personal religious beliefs into my life.  I like living under the undiluted Constitution of the United States, with the inalienable rights.  So, it's not Mitt Romney's Mormonism that is the problem.  It's his obvious willingness to spin and manipulate the facts in order to achieve his objective -- in this case, becoming the leader of the free world.  We've learned that lesson, right??  "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."  Spoken like a true patriot, President Bush.  (Yeah, right.)

Could a Mormon be a good and desirable president of the United States?  Yes.  Is Mitt Romney that Mormon?  No way.  He must have missed his Primary Sunday school class when they taught the principle of honesty.

Being asked questions by the American people as opposed to having a staged, formal debate, is not new. It's the "fireside chat," of the 21st century. No biased moderators or networks that cherry pick the questions that best support their candidates or network bias. No pre-interpreted leanings to the left or the right. I think it's quite telling of the republicans to not engage in such a medium.

Mitt  Romney showed how his mind works when he posed with the bimbo holding the fraidy-cat's Scariest Trio on Earth sign.  I have a feeling he's honestly scared somebody will turn up on YouTube dressed in Osama robes and a turban and ask a question along the lines of "And what half-assed steps will you take to try to avoid capturing me, Mr. Romney?"

What's up with MSNBC's software?
"House moves to free jailed Border Patrol agents
Two were convicted of convicted of shooting Mexican drug dealer in 2005"

I've noted that news stories on MSNBC contain a lot of doubled words, repeating of blocks of letters in a single word, and the appearance of two sentences with portions missing running together as one sentence.
This sort of thing is not so uncommon on the net but MSNBC seems to have the highest incidence.

I first really took notice when a post of mine showed up with an apparent typo, but looking at the keyboard I realized that such a typo was not physically possible, even for those who can use all their fingers when typing.

What gives?

Whatever happened to the founding fathers idea of "seperation of church and state"

Wanda Swain Bland, Largo, Florida (Sent Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:58 PM)
Thanks for your enlightening post :) I don't think that many here (my opinion) are saying that they are against the Religion but the man himself.. I was also a Mormon and left the religion totally, I had found that they didn't practice what they preached.. Just my take of what I know personally..

For everyone who thinks that '43's version of a unitary government is a good thing, remember this ...

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

At this point, I can safely say that '43' and co have been corrupted absolutely.  

The three branches of government have worked for over 200 years -- the checks and balances have worked for over 200 years.  Let's not mess with success.  

My experience with Mormons has been quite different than most.  I find the religion to be exculsive,  not inclusive.  If you are not a Mormon you don't really matter much.  As a matter of fact if you are a woman you don't really matter much to them.  I cannot vote for him or Rudy,  hell even Rudy's kids won't vote for him.  If Newt gets in the fray, (I think he will, his ego won't let him stay out) then we all can sit back and see who gets the most mud slinged at them.  It could get very interesting,  they all have such sordid pasts.  

Scott, Columbus, Ohio (Sent Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:17 AM)

On the contrary, I SUPPORTED their decision.  Roger Ailes, president of Fox NOISE, smeared Senator Obama at a republican fundraiser by using him and his Arabic name, to imply he was a Pakistani terrorist.

I was proud that the democrats stood together against the fat pig's bigotry!! That's WHY the DNC pulled the debate from FOX NOISE.  Get the facts right please!!

MK, Indianapolis (Sent Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:37 PM) - Great insight!!

Mit is afraid to answer questions because he's changed his positions so many times, he's terrified he either a.) Won't remember where he stands "NOW"; or b.) Will be exposed by an American and to America he's so full of himself he'll say anything to get elected.

I wrote and posted this a few weeks back and I think it's fitting to post it again after this smack in the face to Americans!!

This IS what Mit's afraid of!!

It’s a democrat; no, it’s a republican; no, it’s a liberal; no, it’s a conservative; no, it’s a neo con; no, it’s NONE of the above – it’s Mit Romney, better known as Mr. Multiple Choice!!

PRO-CHOICE

When running for Senate in 1994 against Senator Kennedy, Romney said in two debates, "I believe that Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice.
- (Wow – a progressive Republican, a tip of the hat to you Mit!!)

Kennedy shot back: "I am pro-choice; my opponent is multiple choice."  
- (I think Mit’s headed for some trouble!!)

GAY RIGHTS

When running for both Governor and Senator, during his 1994 and 2002 Massachusetts campaigns Romney stated, he “would have a better policy providing for domestic partnerships than his Democratic opponents would. I will support and endorse efforts to provide those domestic partnership benefits to gay and lesbian couples. We must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern."
- (Your open-mindedness and compassion is amazing!!)

In 2004, he opposed both same-sex marriage and civil unions in Massachusetts when the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ordered such marriages be permitted. Romney lobbied for a constitutional amendment to overturn the decision.
- (Whoops, I spoke too soon, Mr. Compassion is definitely headed for trouble!!)

LABOR

Romney states his hugely successful leveraged-buyout practice “had created jobs”.
- (You’re a fairy godmother Mit!!)

Kennedy exposed that Ampad, a company purchased by Romney's Bain Capital in 1992, had recently bought SCM, an office products company in Marion, Indiana. All 350 workers at the SCM plant were laid off, and then offered their jobs back at reduced wages.
- (Oh boy, now Mit’s in big trouble!!)

GUN CONTROL

In a 2002 debate during Romney's campaign for governor of Massachusetts, Romney said: "We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them. I won't chip away at them; I believe they protect us and provide for our safety.  These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people. That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA. I don't line up with the NRA.”
- (Kudos to Mit, you’re concerned about the safety of Americans and cannot be bought by the NRA!!)

Romney now states, "I have a gun of my own. I go hunting myself. I'm a member of the NRA and believe firmly in the right to bear arms. In our state there are a series of laws restricting gun ownership in various ways. Over the past four years, I've worked very closely with the Gun Owners' Action League here, which is an affiliate of the NRA, and we've made some changes which I think they feel have been positive steps. And so you are going to see that, I think, hopefully, in other states as well, as they make progress, perhaps further than Massachusetts has.”
- (Double whoops, the NRA is now his best friend!!)

HEALTHCARE

As governor of Massachusetts, Romney signed legislation that required that nearly all Massachusetts residents obtain health insurance coverage by establishing means-tested state subsidies for people without adequate employer insurance, by directing funds designated to compensate for the health costs of the uninsured.
- (You’re the second coming of Christ Mit!!)

Romney vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, including a $295 per person fee on businesses with 11 employees or more that do not provide health insurance. Romney also vetoed provisions providing dental and eyeglass benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid.
– (Mit has a new best friend, the Devil!!)

STEM CELL RESEARCH

While running for governor in 2002, Romney strongly advocated stem-cell research and he promised to lobby George W. Bush to embrace such research.
- (A true humanitarian if I ever saw one Mit!!)

Romney now agrees with Bush's decision to ban federal funding for research on excess embryos and believes federal funds should not be used for research using human embryos created during fertility treatments.  
- (You just lost Nancy Reagan’s vote, she’s not happy with you!!)

ECONOMIC POLICY

As Governor of Massachusetts, Romney spoke against Bush's 2001 extension of tax cuts. In 2002, Romney refused to sign an anti-tax pledge because he considered them "government by gimmickry."
- (Kudos Mit, your support for the middle class is mind-blowing!!)

Romney now praises Bush’s tax cuts and states, “they are effective.”
- (Kiss the middle class vote good-bye Mit!!)

CAMPAIGN FINANCE

In his 2002 gubernatorial campaign, Romney proposed taxing private political contributions in order to finance publicly funded campaigns. In his 1994 Senate campaign, Romney advocated spending limits on congressional campaigns and suggested abolishing political action committees.
- (Whew, finally all candidates will be on equal ground thanks to you Mit – Kudos!!)

Romney now strongly criticizes the McCain-Feingold Law, saying "We step into dangerous territory when politicians start eviscerating our fundamental freedoms in the name of amorphous principles, like campaign finance reform."
- (There goes equal opportunity for all candidates – we’ll continue getting screwed!!)

TORTURE

During the second Presidential debate, Romney supported the use of enhanced interrogation techniques in handling suspects at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility, stating, "enhanced interrogation techniques have to be used -- not torture but enhanced interrogation techniques.
- (You can’t accuse Mit of not knowing how to split a hair!!)

GUANTANAMO BAY & DUE PROCESS

During the debate in South Carolina held May 15, 2007 Romney stated that in his view "We ought to double Guantanamo." He then went on to state "I want them in Guantanamo where they don't get the access to lawyers they get when they're on our soil.”
- (Habeas Corpus still on hiatus!!)

IRAQ WAR

Romney states, "so long as there is a reasonable prospect of success, our wisest course is to seek stability in Iraq, with additional troops endeavoring to secure the civilian population and could become a base for al-Qaeda and could mean a future with far more military involvement and far more loss of American life."
- (Mit, why don’t you support the troops?)

In the June 5 New Hampshire debate, in response to a question asking if Iraq should have been invaded in hindsight, He stated, “if things occurred the same way they had, with Saddam Hussein turning away UN inspectors, Iraq should have been invaded.
- (The Mexicans bombed Pearl Harbor!!)

It was pointed out that Hussein did in fact allow UN weapons inspectors into Iraq, and they no WMD were found.
- (And O.J. is still looking for the real killer!!)

In conclusion, it is transparently striking how consistent Mitt been throughout the years. Yet this poor man continues to be ruthlessly attacked and some have had the audacity to call him a flip flopper!!

For instance, he states that he has never supported gay marriage and only domestic partnership benefits are in dispute.
- (A perfectly rationale justification for his myriad of sea changes!!)

Romney states “his political opponents like to mischaracterize his past positions for political gain."
- (Whew, that’s good enough for me Mit and it certainly explains your numerous U-turns throughout your political career - poor misunderstood man – now everyone leave him alone!!)

Yeah, ok Mit, you're an opportunist and a coward if I saw one!!

Maybe if Aretha Franklin interviewed him, Mitt could get some 'Respect'.  They could even play the song.

U P D A T E    M E

Brenda Deltona FL (Sent Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:57 PM)


Thanks for explaining your post - I am grateful to hear;
1) it is not ok to kill off dogs, killing off dogs ...
2) that in fact, you do appreciate Senator Byrd - I have said, in half jest - almost seriously - if we could 'clone' anyone, it should be Mr. Byrd - before the disabilities began showing their 'ugly faces'...
It is a sad thing for me, personally, because I do admire all that he stands for, today.  And, I miss his oratory on the floor of the Senate.
Another great one, was Barbara Jordan (D-TX) She was brilliantly amazing. When she spoke, they all listened! She ultimately died of Lupus - do you remember her, or am I 'dating' myself, here? <g>

About; "...replacing them all..." Congress - this too, concerns me, since there are some really good people, today in the Congress.  For example, I really support and appreciate my Senators!  Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein.  They are both great, and I wouldn't want to randomly replace them with someone whom I do not know, or do not hold the same\similar positions.
It's kind of a double-edged sword, moment, since some of those in Congress should be replaced, period. You know, the ones who back Bush, no matter what he does or says - It seems to me, if he "passed gas" in a crowded room, they'd make it a law, not to say ewww.

I would that more people get to know their congress better... and get 'da Bums out! I had an opportunity to get to know someone who wanted to run for election for the House Of Representatives, because they make good money.  It makes me wonder just how many of those in Congress do it for the same reasons.
I guess we don't all ask the right questions, of them. Like; "Why do you really want to run for Congress?"
Maybe we should start asking them and, ourselves - "Are they doing it for the money, power, prestige, why do they really want to be elected?"  

Just some more thoughts, along the way...

Brenda Deltona FL (Sent Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:57 PM)


Thanks for explaining your post - I am grateful to hear;
1) it is not ok to kill off dogs, killing off dogs ...
2) that in fact, you do appreciate Senator Byrd - I have said, in half jest - almost seriously - if we could 'clone' anyone, it should be Mr. Byrd - before the disabilities began showing their 'ugly faces'...
It is a sad thing for me, personally, because I do admire all that he stands for, today.  And, I miss his oratory on the floor of the Senate.
Another great one, was Barbara Jordan (D-TX) She was brilliantly amazing. When she spoke, they all listened! She ultimately died of Lupus - do you remember her, or am I 'dating' myself, here? <g>

About; "...replacing them all..." Congress - this too, concerns me, since there are some really good people, today in the Congress.  For example, I really support and appreciate my Senators!  Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein.  They are both great, and I wouldn't want to randomly replace them with someone whom I do not know, or do not hold the same\similar positions.
It's kind of a double-edged sword, moment, since some of those in Congress should be replaced, period.
You know, the ones who back Bush, no matter what he does or says - It seems to me, if he "passed gas" in a crowded room, they'd make it a law, not to say ewww.

I would that more people get to know their congress better... and get 'da Bums out! I had an opportunity to get to know someone who wanted to run for election for the House Of Representatives, because they make good money.  It makes me wonder just how many of those in Congress do it for the same reasons.
I guess we don't all ask the right questions, of them. Like; "Why do you really want to run for Congress?"
Maybe we should start asking them and, ourselves - "Are they doing it for the money, power, prestige, why do they really want to be elected?"  

Just some more thoughts, along the way...

Clinton issued 140 pardons as well as several commutations on his last day of office (January 20, 2001). When a sentence is commuted, the conviction remains intact, but the sentence can be altered in a number of ways. Some controversial actions include the following:

Carlos A. Vignali had his sentence for cocaine trafficking commuted, after serving 6 of 15 years in federal prison.
Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges. Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. Hugh Rodham returned the payments after they were disclosed to the public.[citation needed] Braswell would later invoke the Fifth Amendment at a Senate Committee hearing in 2001, when questioned about allegations of his having systematically defrauded senior citizens of millions of dollars.
Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion, after clemency pleas from Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, among many other international luminaries. He was required to pay a $100 million dollar fine and waive any use of the pardon as a defense against any future civil charges that were filed against him in the same case. Critics complained that Denise Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to the Clinton library and to Mrs. Clinton's senate campaign. Emails uncovered during the course of the investigation revealed that her final donation was provided a year before Scooter Libby requested that she approach Clinton for a pardon. According to Paul Volcker's independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.
Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal; McDougal had served 18 months on contempt charges for refusing to testify about Clinton's role.
Dan Rostenkowski, a former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal. Rostenkowski had served his entire sentence.
Melvin J. Reynolds, a Democratic Congressman from Illinois, who was convicted of bank fraud, 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice, and solicitation of child pornography had his sentence commuted on the bank fraud charged and was allowed to serve the final months under the auspices of a half way house. He had served his entire sentence on child sex abuse charges before the commutation of the later convictions.
Roger Clinton, the president's half-brother, on drug charges after having served the entire sentence more than a decade before. Roger Clinton would be charged with drunk driving and disorderly conduct in an unrelated incident within a year of the pardon. He was also briefly alleged to have been utilized in lobbying for the Braswell pardon, among others. However, no wrongdoing was uncovered.
On Feb. 18, 2001, Clinton wrote a New York Times column defending the 140 pardon

Death of a President is a fictional documentary about the assassination of 43rd U.S. President George W. Bush. It is directed by British filmmaker Gabriel Range. The film uses archive footage, actors, and computer effects to portray an assassination of the 43rd U.S. president. The film covers topics of civil disobedience, racial profiling, the reduction of civil liberties, sensationalism and just-war theory.

The film premiered at the 2006 Toronto International Film Festival on September 10, and was aired on the More 4 channel in the U.K. on October 9. It was then aired on Channel 4 in the U.K. on October 19, 2006 — a year to the day before the events portrayed in the film.

I recently saw this movie on DVD and though I am not Liberal, I did find it interesting. I does portray a fictional assassination with a very liberal view.

Has anybody else seen this movie?

"It was pointed out that Hussein did in fact allow UN weapons inspectors into Iraq, and they no WMD were found.
- (And O.J. is still looking for the real killer!!)
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The Left locks onto "stockpiles" of freshly manufactured Chemical weapons as if that was the only consideration in the determination that Saddam had in fact violated the ceasefire agreement and the relevant UNSCRs.
Besides the fact that hundreds of Chemical Warheads have been found, prohibited and undeclared long range missle programs, plans to restart Chemical Weapons Production, Chemical and Biological Warfare Experiments on human subjects, experiments in the  modification of rifle grenades to carry Mustard gas salvaged from old stock chemical weapons for use in assassinations and covert activities, an attempt to obtain the No Dong missile from North Korea, prohibited UAVs capable of carrying biological weapons with intent to attack US Naval vessels, and a laundry list of other activities prohibited by the UNSCRs were discovered.

The UN Inspectors were pulled out after Saddam's regime denied them access to ares they wanted to inspect, the final violation. Inspectors reported that Iraq military were moving materials out of sites while their Iraq escorts delayed them and made sure they couldn't speak to personel candidly. They were obviously hiding things, just what and how much remains to be seen.

Regime Stategic Intent was to reconstitute full scale WMD production just as soon as the UN officials and politicians they were paying off and/or blackmailing got sanctions lifted.
The French and the Russians had fronted Saddam billions of dollars worth of War Materials and they wanted sanctions lifted so they could get their money.

Al-Quida afilliate Ansar al-Islam was operating in Iraq and al-Qu'ida agents were coming and going with the co-operation of the IIS.
Besides al-Qu'ida afilliates Saddam played host and sponsor to a dosen or so Islamic Terrorist organizations and gave safe haven to terrorists know to have murdered American Citizens and been involved in the WTC bombing.

The administration did not claim Saddam had gotten Yellow Cake from Niger, they found enough Yellow Cake in Iraq for several Warheads in any case.
They said that if he could obtain fissionable materials he could build a bomb in a short time, and equipment and high speed detonator circuitry suitable for building such a bomb have been found in Iraq. As events have shown AQ Khan might have easily supplied him with the fissionable material he wanted.
Pressure on Pakistan and Libya led to the uncovering and dismantling of the AQ Khan network.

Al-Qu'ida in Iraq is Al-Quida in Iraq, not some fly by night group hijacking the title.

PS
In a recent interview US military authorities stated that the surge has reduced US casualties and that Tribal leadership in Anbar province is now an effective ally against al-Quida. Violence in the city of Ramada is down by over 90%.

I certainly hope that this fear of questions from normal Americans is duly noted by those few people who still insist on being loyal Republicans. One would think between the daily (hourly) missteps by this admin. and the lying going on by top people in the admin. that the refusal of these brave, intelligent men to answer questions off the cuff would tell their fans what they really are-cowards.

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:21 PM)
Ooooooo Pam! :) Dag girly!!!! again.. you never cease to amaze me with your posts!

Steve Turner Cdar Falls Iowa (Sent Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:15 PM)

Too funny!! Thanks!!

Pam,  you have such indepth, insightful posts.  I am am so glad you are back posting here again!  I always scroll down and read who has posted what before I read the text....if it is you or Krista, Brenda and a few others I will always read.  I have enough aggrevation in my life,  I don't need it from here too!  If you know what I mean!

I am not for or against Romney at this point, but I guess I am somewhat old school.  While I agree that average citizens can ask presidential candidates about the topic of their choice, I think that the youtube style is kind of hokie.

I think that it cheapens and trivializes the meaningfulness of a debate.  What I would like is to here in detail their positions and their rationale for those positions.  Often times, everyone says that a candidate will win if he or she gets the best jab or joke in.  The best presidential candidate often may not be the best debater, but may be the most thoughful and decisive.

I am Republican (Go ahead everyone throw your spears at me), and at this point I have no clue who I am going to vote for.  Quite frankly, I don't like anyone on either side of the aisle.  

This may be unrelated, but someone said that Dennis Kucinich would be the candidate that is in line with Someones values.  All I can say is, and I am not going to say much because he has no shot, be careful with him, because he tends to be a little unhinged and into these conspiracy theories.

And Brenda, I know I am rambling a bit, but what are trying to say about the warning system on 9-11.  Please tell me that you are not believing that Bush and the government caused 9-11

And Carol of Long Valley, I have to say that when I was a 20 year old, I spent alot of time at the Nook in the Rock room.

Any enough rambling, good night all

'I am Republican (Go ahead everyone throw your spears at me), and at this point I have no clue who I am going to vote for.  Quite frankly, I don't like anyone on either side of the aisle.'  

No spears.  There is a difference between a Republican and people like Bush & Romney.

I'm a Democrat-though I don't strictly vote party lines.  At this point I'm just going to write my own name in, as that is how I feel about all of the candidates-there isn't one that has proven themselves to me.  Though I can assure you that it won't be someone like Romney or Guiliani-they make John Kerry's much talked about 'flip-flops' look like a game of neener-neener-neener on a kids playground.

Keith With all due respect..
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This may be unrelated, but someone said that Dennis Kucinich would be the candidate that is in line with Someones values.  All I can say is, and I am not going to say much because he has no shot, be careful with him, because he tends to be a little unhinged and into these conspiracy theories.
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Well his "theories" may just be right..
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And Brenda, I know I am rambling a bit, but what are trying to say about the warning system on 9-11.
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There was none, remember GWB was here in my state when this was all going on!
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Please tell me that you are not believing that Bush and the government caused 9-11
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Yes, and I know I am not alone...
This is not the only thing that makes me believe the way I do...
I won't ask you to pay attention to any of my posts.. already, not being mean, I can see you are not willing to think anything but the "Official Government Story". Until they come up with some really deep truth and viable explanations and better proof, which they couldn't because I wouldn't believe it anyway, since things can be tampered with..I will continue to believe it.. I do not trust this lieing government.. so why would I trust the story they gave us after 9/11 not..

I do not trust this lieing government.. so why would I trust the story they gave us after 9/11 not..
Brenda Deltona FL (Sent Monday, July 30, 2007 12:38 AM)

EXACTLY the point I am TRYING to explain to Kevin!! Great post!!

Jamie!! Woohoo - I have MISSED you!!

PEACE MY GOOD FRIEND!!

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