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A Picture's Worth 5 Days

Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:00 PM by Countdown

Why did this pic get a 13-year-old kid 5 days in the hole (i.e. suspended from school?). Find out after the jump.

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Student Suspended For Drawing Gun
5-Day Suspension Cut To 3 Days

POSTED: 3:06 pm PDT August 21, 2007

QUEEN CREEK, Ariz. -- A 13-year-old student who drew a picture of a gun on his homework at Payne Junior High School in Queen Creek was initially suspended for at least five days, but his father was able to slash it to three days.

The Mosteller family moved to Chandler from Colorado Springs only four weeks ago, but it's not the kind of greeting Paula Mosteller said she was expecting.

Her 13-year-old son was suspended from school because he drew a picture of a gun on homework.

"My son is a very good boy," Mosteller said.

"He doesn't get into trouble. There was nothing on the paper that would signify that it was a threat of any form," she said.

The principal at Payne Junior High School kept the actual drawing.

The picture was enough to get him suspended, initially, for five days.

"He was just basically doodling and not thinking a lot about it," Mosteller said.

CBS 5 News tried to get more details from the Chandler Unified School District but were told, "Federal privacy law forbids the school or district from discussing student discipline."

"We're not advocates for guns," Mosteller said.

 

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Sorry to disappoint you Bill, But I did through the Red Cross , how about you ?  Or are you like most liberals, raise my taxes to give to Ray Nagin to bring back the chocolate city.
Steve, You can thank Bill Clinton's education secretary Dick Riley for that ! No one ever accused Bill CLinton of having any smarts.
Let me say it once again - child abuse happens when children get severe punishment that is arbitrary - whatever angers their parent or caretaker. This suspension qualifies as child abuse - there is no way that any child or adult could predict that the picture would result in a harsh punishment - why aren't the school administrators being prosecuted?
Steve, you are just too funny, thank you!!

For the record, since once again Bill Clinton has been lied about by our resident bigot, Larry, “once AGAIN”, I’ll reiterate this here. Bill Clinton’s  IQ is the highest of the last 12 presidents.  

Look who's at the bottom of the pack; dumb (41) and dumber (43)!! “Saint Ronald Reagan’s”  isn’t much better. Combined, “dumb and dumber’s” IQ is only 7 points higher than Bill Clinton’s.  

Carol – I think this explains the “error”!!

182 -  William J. Clinton (D)
175 -  James E. Carter (D)
174 -  John F. Kennedy (D)
155 -  Richard M. Nixon (R)
147 -  Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 -  Harry Truman (D)
126 -  Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
122 -  Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
121 -  Gerald Ford (R)
105 -  Ronald Reagan (R)
098 -  George HW Bush (R)
091 -  George W. Bush (R)
How can we expect children or parents to respect school officials when ther logic is so distorted and common sense does not appear to be present at all. This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard of. The school and everone involved should appolgized to this kid and parents.  
And this is what happens when schools stop funding their art departments. Maybe we can all pitch in and get this kid some drawing classes or at least psycho therapy for the principle.
Can you blame this kid? Every news station shows army guys with big guns walking down some street in some town  in Iraq, dah, every movie has some hero shooting everyone in sight, dah, every video game has some character blasting everything and everyone, dah, and some teacher gets upset when a kid draws a picture of a gun. Sure Columbine is our big fear but get a grip,  we just can not let kids be kids. We adults live in fear and we dump that fear on our kids. I say the only thing we have to fear is fear mongerers not kids drawing pictures that really are a far cry from a so called gun sketch with happy faces.
Can you blame this kid? Every news station shows army guys with big guns walking down some street in some town  in Iraq, dah, every movie has some hero shooting everyone in sight, dah, every video game has some character blasting everything and everyone, dah, and some teacher gets upset when a kid draws a picture of a gun. Sure Columbine is our big fear but get a grip,  we just can not let kids be kids. We adults live in fear and we dump that fear on our kids. I say the only thing we have to fear is fear mongerers not kids drawing pictures that really are a far cry from a so called gun sketch with happy faces.
It's obvious....a space station with astronauts drifting outside.  Smiley faces are aliens laughing at us.  

Wasn't the kid every asked what it represented?  Figure, kids don't have a say.
Especially coming from a state where it is legal to carry hand guns in the open.
Larry & Wayne,

I thank God every day that I'm not like you. You must lead a very miserable existence. No joy, no love, no happiness. You're nothing really.
I can't even pity you, because you're nothing.
We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
William Jefferson Clinton was a Rhodes scholar, receiving a postgraduate award for study at the University of Oxford. Certainly beats the "smarts" displayed by the mosquito buzzing this forum.
The drawing looks like a doodle - a ramdom sketch. If you looked at my doodles from staff meetings you could probably find all kinds of suggestive lines (especially when the meetings run long). I think the teacher and principal over-reacted - a punish first, ask questions later mentality.
With that said, I know where they're coming from. It used to be school was a safe place and you never worried about violence - and I'm talking 10 years ago. Now I never know if writing a detention will result in a slashed tire, a broken car window or worse. I've been threatened by a student one day and by the parent the next and I teach in an middle/upper middle class school. Are teachers paranoid? No, they really are out to get us.
We all read the news about students who walk into their school and shoot students, principals and teachers and I bet most people  comment on the tragety and horror of it and wonder what the world is coming to. I take that to work with me everyday.
Would I want to do a different job. No. And most students are eager to learn - even the hardened ones. But you have to establish a rapport with each student, so when you find a picture like this your first response is not "It's a gun!", but "Tell me about your drawing."
Steve Turner- I'm with you on (maybe) making past 1st grade.  I'm not sure how old you are, but remember, too, when we played with toy army guys, shot at each other with toy machine guns (some had that weird red tip that moved in and out, and made a great noise!)?  Uh Huh- sure you remember those days.  Those were the days when IF you did wrong, it was OK to get a spanking both at school and at home.   By the way- Remember those days when 'drive-by' shootings were completely unheard of?  If you had a hard-on against another kid, you took it behind the school and setteled it.  Many times, you both wound up being good buddies afterwards.  I don't know when it all started, but actions like this gun drawing nonsense sure have screwed up a ton of otherwise 'normal' kids.
Well, I was going to ridicule the principal for banning a harmless piece of paper when I realized the kid on the 'roof' had a couple of hits of speed in his pants pockets.  I mean, he does, doesn't he?  I sure seem to imagine them being there, and the dangers that little stick-guy posses!
Yes I did Larry through Habitat for Humanity. That organization founded by your nemesis Jimmy Carter.
About Clinton give the guy some credit. He came from NOTHING. Raised by a single mom. He was Governor of his state at age 35. In addition to being one of the youngest presidents elected. One does not go from such humble beginnings ot the White House by being stupid.
New Orleans the chocolate city huh? It just proves my point that you are a brainless bigot, and a complete waste of a human being.
It's Bill Clinton's fault.
Everything I know about South Carolina, I learned from a North Carolinan...North Carolinian?...from a Tarheel.  I drove through the Palmetto State one day and it looked real pretty. Didn't see any Mensa gatherings though, so who knows, huh? I do dig the semi-Islamic State Flag.  What's up with that?
The school admin's reaction to this "incident" is expected in a fascist society. America has been drifting towards fascism since before Woodrow Wilson was President, and certainly accelerated more towards it during his administration. Expect to see much more of this, from just about every arm of our Federal, State and local governments, and every agency funded by them. I see a bit of it daily, in some manner or another. The last impediment to the complete takeover of our government by corporate fascists is almost gone, our Constitution. The attacks against it have accelerated since JFK, and now, few attempts are made to keep these actions covert... since most Americans are blind to it. This gun drawing incident is just a symptom of a much larger problem: a government for the government, by the government.
He probably would have gotten off scott free if he'd also doodled a picture of a "concealed weapons permit"....sorta legal, in a doodling sort of way.
A GUN??????????????
First drug testing the school staff should be required if any one of them see that !
Second a eye test or check if they had their glasses on!
Third a stress test as the fear of being in a school has over taken their mind!
Last if none of the above they should all be fired if they still see a gun!
Keith,

Your   show is  the best that  I know of  anywhere.  I'm  a  truck driver that  works mostly evenings.  I  rush  up things to try to make it home  in time for  your  late  rerunns.  I really miss it  when  I can't

Thanks and  keepup the  GREAT  work

Jay
My wife was eating lunch at noon today when without warning CNN showed video with audio of the dogfighting.  She became so upset you couldn't continue eating and began to sob telling me what she had just heard and seen.  I don't get it.  It's OK to show video with audio of dogs in agony crying for their lives but the media won't show soldiers in combat in iraq being shot and crying in agony.  The media is afraid of George Bush and the FCC.  CNN hit an all time low on this one.  Let's start seeing more of the coffins carrying american soldiers coming home every day.  That SOB in the white house really has total control of the "so-called" free journalism which critical to a free society.


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