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The Arrest Room

Posted: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:16 PM by Countdown

What is it with these public servants and public restrooms!  As reported in Roll Call...here's the latest on Idaho Senator Larry Craig's arrest in the john at a Minnesota airport.

"My experience has shown that individuals engaging in lewd conduct use their bags to block the view from the front of their stall," Karsnia stated in his report. "From my seated position, I could observe the shoes and ankles of Craig seated to the left of me."

Craig was wearing dress pants with black dress shoes.

"At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. Craig tapped his toes several times and moves his foot closer to my foot. I moved my foot up and down slowly. While this was occurring, the male in the stall to my right was still present. I could hear several unknown persons in the restroom that appeared to use the restroom for its intended use. The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area," the report states.

And the response from the Craig camp?

A spokesman for Craig described the incident as a "he said/he said misunderstanding," and said the office would release a fuller statement later Monday afternoon.

********UPDATE***********

Here's the much anticipated statement from Sen. Craig's office...they had months to craft this? 

Senator Larry Craig stated, "At the time of this incident, I complained to the police that they were misconstruing my actions. I was not involved in any inappropriate conduct.

"I should have had the advice of counsel in resolving this matter. In hindsight, I should not have pled guilty. I was trying to handle this matter myself quickly and expeditiously."

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Yet another example of the Faith and Morals party.  Was Foley busy, oh wait Craig's not a teenage boy.  Never mind.
All you folks out there much more witty then I am will have fun with this one.  Can't wait to read your comments!! But I'm LMAO with this line "I could hear several unknown persons in the restroom that appeared to use the restroom for its intended use".
Disgusting.  What happened to the Republican party.  This nation has gone down the old stink hole because of them.  We need to fumigate and sanitize all of Washington.  Starting with the lying chimp and his puppeteer.  Not sure about all of you, but I think those two buzzards need to be militarily removed.  This has been a nightmare since 2000.  And yet they warn we should expect another attack in the fall.  Two attacks under Bush/Cheney command?  Hell no...take them out so we can save this nation from the wreckage.
If the right wing ultra conservatives would stop with the hypocrisy, maybe I could start voting Republican again.  It's always the republicans telling people how they can live, liberals don't care what two consenting adults do in private.  

Talk about denial!  Why do they insist on remaining in that awfully crowded closet instead of telling the religious right to mind their own business?  "Values voters" indeed, more like "Intolerant, self-righteous, hypocritical voters" instead.  They deserve each other.  
What, another Republican pervert?? I’m shocked!! Republican Senator Larry Craig has this statement on his website:

“I believe in the constitutional principles of limited federal government, free enterprise, private property and individual liberty and responsibility. I will defend these principles on behalf of the citizens of the state of Idaho, the West and the Nation.

I guess he defends these principles by peeping through public bathroom stalls; his definition of "free enterprise"? I can also assume his definition of "individual liberty" is perversion!! Foley and Vitter, here comes LARRY!!

Indeed more impending doom for GOP 2008!! These pigs are really making this too easy, "Ciao Rudy"!!
Ok. Here's another one who is going to ask God for forgiveness. Oh, the hypocrisy.
update blog please.
Probably should have included this in my first post, but I just remembered.  I doubt if this made the national news but you all remember Ted Haggerty, the anti gay head of the New Life Church here in Colorado who was caught buying services and meth from a male prostitute?  Well, he was on the news here this morning.  According to the bit I saw on tv, he's asking for donations to start a new church.  The news crew checked the address for the donations and it belongs to a convicted sex offender!  Whoops.  Aw c'mon you Republicans, just admit GOP stands for the Gay Old Party and be done with it.  We don't care if your gay.  It doesn't matter.  What are you so afraid of?  If you Republicans didn't spend so much of your time on telling us gay unions will destroy our country, you might have time for some constructive debate on the....oh who am I kidding, it ain't gonna happen. Hypocrates!  
Can there possibly anything else in the world more interesting than Larry Craig's arrest. And Keith wonders why he is so far behind the pack.
Why do these guys take "getting caught with your pants down" so literally? You would think by now enough of 'em had self-destructed their careers that they would behave themselves out of good old paranoia.
A TRUE PATRIOTIC AMERICAN!!!! GO KEITH, can't wait to see your show tonight! HIGH 5!!!!!! This gives me goosebumps LITERALLY!!! Give them all what you give us every night Keith.. HOPE and speaking for those of us who have no voice so that the whole world can hear what we feel! woooooooo and a tie that has my fave color in it.. PURPLE!!!
Brenda Deltona, FL

have another glass of kool aide Brenda you deserve it
Please do a list of all the republicans over the last 6 years who have been busted in a lewd act.Save it for the next sunday edition of Countdown,so they can be exposed to everyone and not just we who know how hypocritical they are.
The GOP is all about opposing Gay Marraige.  But they seem to be of a different mind about Gay Restrooms. The Log Cabin Republicans better think about adding on an extra room, what with the latest Log Jams. They keep picking up possible members they didn't know they had. Or maybe they did.
Hey Repubican faithful, "where are you?" Don't you want to blame the Dems? Is it the fault of activist judges? Was it the mainstream media? Well we know this guy is toast. The Republicans can forgive hiring hookers from the floor of the house, but anything that involves the "love that dare not speak it's name" is strictly taboo. Sure Foley could have continued seducing pages, but only as long as Hastert and Bohner continued covering for him.
His spokesperson said it was simply a "he said/he said" misunderstanding.  Well, if that's the case, then why did Craig plead guilty?
Perhaps he was just showing off his large shoe size...oh wait, I guess that would be another suggestive move wouldn't it???  
Foley, Vitter, Allen, (Bob not Macaca), Gingrich, Craig, Rudolph. The new face of the Republican Party. Y'all must be real proud.
Did anyone else notice Lynn Cheney at the last GOP fundraiser? She was tapping her foot so fast , she looked like a clog dancer.
Boy, Craig's booking photo is way better than Tom Delay's or mine.
What, another Republican pervert?? I’m shocked!! Republican Senator Larry Craig has this statement on his website:

“I believe in the constitutional principles of limited federal government, free enterprise, private property and individual liberty and responsibility. I will defend these principles on behalf of the citizens of the state of Idaho, the West and the Nation.

I guess he defends these principles by peeping through public bathroom stalls; his definition of "free enterprise"? I can also assume his definition of "individual liberty" is perversion!! Foley and Vitter, here comes LARRY!!  Indeed more impending doom for GOP 2008!! These pigs are really making this too easy, "Ciao Rudy"!!
OK...all you "do as I say - not as I do" Republicans are making this too darn easy!
RNC cheerleader (Sent Monday, August 27, 2007 6:26 PM)

I'm sure they ALL have put away their "2008 pom pom"!! What a disgrace!!
Just wait, the honorable Mr. Craig will promptly be labeled as a Democrat on Faux Noise..
please post all comments or explain why not.
Hindsight? Is that like 'Out a Sight, Out a...',nevermind. Let me get this straight, he got the hots for the guy because of his Shoes? So, it's a Foot Fetish?  Make that a Gay Foot Fetish? I suppose the thing that most Republicans will wonder about this, is if they planned on getting married.

Ain't it a fine mess, y'all???  If it weren't so tragic, it would actually be very funny.  Maybe someday we can all look on this debacle with hilarity!

All this simply confirms what many of us have been confronting for a number of years... It is only shameful it has taken so danged long to come to fruition

Crooks and corruption, deceivers and liars - all!
Has anyone else noticed that too many of those who claim to be "conservative christians" "family values" congress people, end up involved in some kind of sex scandal?

Further, most people who profess anti anything to do with sexuality, are either closeted homosexuals, or with major issues around their own sexuality - like; perverse sexual encounters, issues related to some 'skeletons' in their closets - like; "Prostitutes" "Madams" "homosexual affairs" and more...

Did anyone else make mental, or other notes about these issues, and the obvious 'ill-wind' blows where it finds attraction... Like, a magnet being pulled by the energy around it.

FINALLY!!! Gonzo Goes!  "Good grief, Charlie Brown"  They're all jumping ship!  Wondering if the ship will be next to go... sunken, washed away, down the tubes, lost in the storm of a venomous display of deceit.

Will Nancy Pelosi REALLY be the first Woman President?


Misunderstanding?  Well, yes there was.  Craig thought the gentleman was a gay hustler, but instead he turned out to be a cop.
Wait a minute, a gay republican sex scandal?  What else is news?  Certainly not that, although it sure as heck was funny.  Thanks.
What, another Republican going against his party of "Morals & Values (HAH)?? I’m shocked!! Republican Senator Larry Craig has this statement on his website:

“I believe in the constitutional principles of limited federal government, free enterprise, private property and individual liberty and responsibility. I will defend these principles on behalf of the citizens of the state of Idaho, the West and the Nation.

I guess he defends these principles by peeping through public bathroom stalls; his definition of "free enterprise"? I can also assume his definition of "individual liberty" is perversion!! Foley and Vitter, here comes Larry Craig!!  Indeed more impending doom for GOP 2008!! The GOP is really making this too easy, "Ciao Rudy"!!
Krista.  The "do as I say..."-thing? I bet that's an extra twenty bucks a half hour, twenty being what Republicans appear to be paying, lately.
The GOP stands for GRAND OLD PERVERTS.  Oh yeah,  also, of course it was not his fault he got caught.  (I bet the cop was a democrat!)  Sounds like this guy Craig knew just what to do to ask for sex,  possibly because he does this behavior all the time?  
Is it just me, or did the "Values Voters" of Idaho get what they deserved?  
Nine months before his arrest, Senator Craig was "outed" on a radio show by a 'gay activist blogger', for having initiated the exact same action with three other men. . . . Sigh. One more reason why I feel I must distinguish myself as an Independent Conservative who isn't a Republican.  
Craig's been a mouthpiece for Romney's campaign, YouTube made the video private viewer only, when this hit the fan. Larry your career is in the cr*pper.
please post all comments or explain why not.
Thank you (Sent Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 PM)'

Ditto!  Are we limited to one post per thread?  I'm serious.  I know that I posted before other people in another, yet nothing shows up.  It wasn't mean or nasty-so what gives?

Really, it's pretty pointless to have a blog unless people are actually allowed to blog.  If there is going to be a limit, would you please inform us?  It would save some of us the trouble of typing and attempting to post.  Of course it would make at least half of the blog pointless since nobody would be allowed to respond to other people.

He thought he'd found a fellow tapdancer in the next stall.
I wonder...does extreme social conservatism CAUSE people to turn into self-loathing, homosexual hypocrites or is it the other way around?
There is no mistaking the actions of Sen.Craig as those of a man trying to engage another into a sexual act. Called it lewd behavior if you want. Sexual acts, themselves, are not lewd until they are brought into the public realm. If we wants to get into a pissing contest (sorry) about whether he is gay or not, that's a slightly different matter. How he labels himself personally is different from the acts he engages in. He was engaging in an activity that could not be misunderstood as anything else. Period. Maybe he'll feel better about himself if he thinks of himself as "bi" but the facts remain. No straight man is going to engage another man, sight basically unseen, in such a manner as this. And this is not the actions of a newbie. These are the actions of a bold and daring active homosexual man who just happened to get caught. Probably still uses the rarely used "handkerchief" schtick too. And he certainly didn't invent covering up his self-loathing through his legislative actions. Probably felt vastly superior legislating all his anti-gay garbage but had this itch to scratch on the inside. Mark Foley and many others have done this for years and will continue to do it until caught.

It always amazes me that the first defenses out of these people---I mean men---is that they are happily married and have x-number of kids or grandkids. Blah, blah, blah. Having children is tangential to your sexuality. He should talk to a professional and work through this issue. It's never too late. His kids and grandkids can learn to love a gay man. Deal with it!
I do not know Senator Craig nor am I a Republican but I find the story of his arrest alarming.  Having spent a portion of my life in the legal field I am aware that police tend to exaggerate in their reports to ensure a conviction but even the events described by the undercover officer do not constitute an illegal sexual proposal.     No proposition was made and no private parts were displayed or fondled.  Is strange conduct a crime?  Placing  a carry on bag by the door is the most likely spot when sitting in an airport bathroom stall and it would require that one’s legs straddle the bag with feet at or near the sides of the stall.  .The senator’s conduct might have been quite innocent. It seems likely that an innocent person  would consider pleading guilty to a misdemeanor rather than choosing a career threatening trial.
I wonder if my first post will show up before this one?
"We will only approve comments that are directly related to the blog, use appropriate language and are not attacking the comments of others."
Please note above:

I read again, the slight rules for posting... which makes sense, for the reason some comments are not being shown.  However, there have also been some comments which I have written very carefully so as not to be attacking, that have not shown up.

Thus, it is unclear to me what 'rules' actually apply to our comments.

Please 's'plain.  Thanks to all the News Hole folks in advance.  <BG>
Yup...my comment was not posted either.  Lot of stuff going on that MSNBC does not want the public to know about.  Shut off your televisions people, and pay attention to the real news.  It is a lot worse than they are telling you.
OK...all you "do as I say - not as I do" Republicans are making this too darn easy!
Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Monday, August 27, 2007 6:57 PM)

It is safe to say that Republicans do not hold a patent on entangling themselves in sex scandals.  Most politicians are egomaniacs so they think that they are above the law.  I must say, as a republican, that we must stop shooting ourselves in the foot with these tabloid affairs.  

I firmly believe in family values, the white picket fence, two kids, a dog, and that kind of purist lifestyle.  Republicans do have a chance in 2008, because the democrats are also tripping over themselves and have not shown that they can lead.  The public is just as disgusted with them.  Republicans, can you please get back to the basic platform of small government, family values, low taxes, and strong defense.

Isn't this symbolic of our fast and loose culture, where everything goes.  I said awhile back, and someone slammed me for it, that I wish sometimes that we could go back in time, and slow down our pace.

I am very undecided on what to do in 2008.  I would consider a democrat,(yes I would), but this crop of candidates are just as pathetic.  Our country needs an enema.
Is it me? or did the "Values Voters" in Idaho get what they deserve?

And why would some one who is gay, be a Republican?  

Any why would a bi-sexual Republican Senator, who campaigned on DOMA, not think that they would be caught?

And why is Route 80 a parking lot during rush hour?

These are unanswerable questions that qualify as part of the "great mysteries of life".

There are 511 days until the end of this regime on 1/20/2009
There are 434 days until election day -- 11/4/2008
And we are counting down.
Keith.  It sounds like the Senator was doing the 'Hustling'.  
Senator Craig must break out in a sweat when he walks by a Shoe Store, huh?
Felice in Littleton. I hope this answers your question. Sexual repression leads to fundamentalism. I believe it is the self loathing that makes one a social conservative. Show me one of these clowns with a healthy, adjusted, libido.  There are none!
All I can do is  quote Nelson Munce. HA HA!
Jamie, Chula Vista, CA (Sent Monday, August 27, 2007 10:59 PM)

KUDOS!! I just made my fourth attempt at posting a comment on Gonzo's resignation, I began yesterday morning.  It has still not shown up.  If there are new rules, or modified ones, please advise us.
Charlie Sharples (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:54 AM)

Nice try sir; however, his career is finished.  He's up for re-election in 2008 and I seriously doubt he will win.  Also, nice "Bill O'Reilly Spin" of the Senator's actions - What a joke!!


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