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Countdown Tuesday: 'I'm Not Gay'

Posted: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:10 PM by Countdown
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Craig's Denial:  Eleven months ago today... Congressman Mark Foley became an infamous man... eventually, most Republican leaders believe, helping their party lose control of Congress. Tonight, in the fifth story on our Countdown, Idaho Republican Senator Larry Craig taking a step some Republican insiders have suggested to NBC Washington Bureau Chief Tim Russert, could start him, and them, down the same path -- Not just belligerently denying he did anything wrong in a Minneapolis airport men's room despite his own guilty plea which he kept secret...but also angrily picking a fight with his own state's leading newspaper.

Going 'Nucular':   "Nuclear weapons"... "the shadow of nuclear holocaust"...  Authorization to "confront... murderous activities." It is language like that, which cost President George Walker Bush, so much of his irreplacable credibility. So why did he use those very words, today, about Iran... in a speech to members of the American Legion...

ODDBALL: We got toilets on fire and a couple of jerks doing the stupidest thing you can ever do while driving a car.

Who's Next?:  When the 68th Attorney General of the United States, Richard Kleindienst, resigned at the height of the Watergate investigate, then President Nixon was so hard pressed to get any successor confirmed by the Democratic-controlled Senate, that he not only had to nominate perhaps the most liberal man in his administration, Defense Secretary Elliott Richardson. But both he and the Attorney General Designate, had to agree with Senate demands that Richardson would appoint a Special Watergate Prosecutor. Our third story on the Countdown: with a justice department in tatters, and an administration in disarray, you might think President Bush would also have to bend over backwards to get a replacement for Alberto Gonzales confirmed. Instead it looks like the only thing the President plans to bend backwards are three fingers and a thumb.

Redemption Geography: Even in the gritty, dark world of beauty paegants, it was one for the ages. Lauren Caitlin Upton, Miss Teen South Carolina. Who long ago made the right choice. The contests with the tiaras. In lieu of, say, the national geography bee.


WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD:  America's Mayor, the people of Fox News.com and one of the hosts at that website's sister cable network vie for top honors this Tuesday.

Help Me NASA, You're Our Only Hope!: The next space shuttle launch, in October, will take to the International Space Station, an Italian-built multi-port node named "Harmony". But in our number one story on the Countdown, far more easily grasped is the shuttle's other payload. A light-saber! Not just any old, run of the mill light saber. But the one actually wielded by Luke Skywalker in his successful quest to defeat the Empire!

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#5:  All denial, all the time-what else do we expect from 'them' anymore?
#4:  'Nucular'  pish-posh, not according to the fella from Morristown, TN.  
#3:  I guess time will tell of 'they' continue bash Bush then do whatever he wants.  T'aint holding my breath.
#2: Commented in the thread about her already.  Glaring lights and t.v.-she was nervous.  She's more than making up for it now-problem.  Yeah, her story is so much more important than anything else in this world.
#1:  Did you guys confuse this with Novaks insanity plea today?

Jamie, CA air conditioning NOT working (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:27 PM)

#5 The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.

Nanalinda, San Antonio, TX (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:35 PM)

#1. Luke Pietosser's Light Sabre will probably end up next to the stuffed and animated Saddam Hussein(Who keeps saying in accented english, "HeyPoppie! Got One of Me?'). #2. All contestants receive Barbie Dolls that fit their personalities.  Lauren's getting "Cartographer Barbie". #3. Well, I guess Larry Craig is out. How about Robert Bork?  That would fit Dubya's MO to a tee. #4. Slowly but surely, the GOP is changing the definition of what it is to be Gay.

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:48 PM)

#1. Luke Pietosser's Light Sabre will probably end up next to the stuffed and animated Saddam Hussein(Who keeps saying in accented english, "HeyPoppie! Got One of Me?')in Dubya's Presidential Libary. #2. All contestants receive Barbie Dolls that fit their personalities.  Lauren's getting "Cartographer Barbie". #3. Well, I guess Larry Craig is out. How about Robert Bork?  That would fit Dubya's MO to a tee. #4. Slowly but surely, the GOP is changing the definition of what it is to be Gay.

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:49 PM)

Well, Countdown, you certainly did get one thing right.  It's not Vick who's the victim.  Apparently, it's Senator Craig -- the victim of the press, the liberal gay movement, and apparently a very impish God.  A God who, for no reason at all, just wants to see this righteous man tortured.  (Oh, and Rachel Maddow and purple tie -- nice, subtle touches.)

On the Miss Teen South Carolina story, you missed some very interesting details in your follow-up to her Today Show appearance:  First, how both hosts practically fell over themselves applauding her ridiculous "do-over" answer.  How sad was that?  And second, while it may be that she and her friends now know where the USA is on a map, she never mentioned when they actually figured it out.  Who knows, maybe they pulled an all-nighter after the pageant.  And come to think of it, nobody asked her to actually locate the USA on a map.  So, I guess we'll never know if she's telling the truth.  One thing for sure, though, she is definitely not a recruiting poster for Appalachian State, unless, of course, they're recruiting for the football team.  I wonder whether she could locate Appalachian State -- or even South Carolina -- on a map.  How on earth did this woman ever get into college?

Bonnie (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:57 PM)

When I watched the clip of Senator Craig announcing that he wasn't Gay, I could imagine my cousin James saying, "Hey Larry, it's OK if you are!". James is the one who wanted the Treasury Department to issue a Pink Three Dollar Bill. In the center of it was Harvey Milk in his office and Dan White walking in, the caption reading "Hi Dan! Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me!" James is as Gay as the Rock Hudson autograph on the top of his Liberace Baseball Cap. He's so Gay, he has calculated the Semen Output of the College of Cardinals. Whenever I need a Gay Perspective on anything, he's got three of them. It will be another set of laughs when I hear about this episode.

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:10 PM)

This Iran talk is the final straw, Bush and Cheney needs to resign or Congress is gonna have to step up and dispose us of these turkeys. They can do more damage before they leave in Jan 2009, they can have their underlings create another attack on this country so they can justify another war, force another draft on the country and more chaos, they can disrupt the 2008 election as well. As of right now I expect Hillary to win in  a landslide, it will not be as close as some pundits make it out to be.

I do not think Pelosi want to give the speakership up to be president because she would be a shortimer and will be unable to resume as speaker after it is over. If you listen to the majority of the US I believe she should step up.

IMHO, GWB was elected through fraud, he is the face behind who is really running the country. Cheney is the president and could not run himself because he was unelectable and GWB ran on name recognition and was more presentable on TV. I believe he was a fraud in Texas as well.

I listen to this man and he fumbles his crap when he has no script and has done so for years. Kerry cleaned his clock in their 2004 debates and I laughed. He is above his head and it really became exposed after mission accomplished and a striking blow after Katrina. He repeats slogans and talking points to where people are just going to sleep. We need an active and competent leader and clean out the house.

Guess Pelosi does not want to be a damage control president.

Sam, WV (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:11 PM)

Thank you countdown for a twit free show.  Thank you very much.  Lauren doesn't count as a twit, just an airhead.  It was nice of NBC to allow her to 'redeem' herself.

Please keep pointing out the dangers of '43's "Invade Iran" campaign -- Fox is campaigning for it.  Please God, let saner heads prevail.  Nothing good can come out of the US invading a second sovereign nation that hasn't attacked America.  Since the IAEA is happy with Iran's nuclear program, we would be going it alone.  

I don't want the US reputation to be damaged further -- if we invade Iran, it will be.  

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:38 PM)

To those who both desperately and fraudulently continue to assert Fox News triumphs over Countdown with Keith Olbermann; to say you were duped just doesn’t cut it. A mass of naive cult followers is by only a hair's breadth a more accurate analogy!!

The cast of characters that have infiltrated your consciousness includes John “Fibson”, “Twit” Hume, Bill “O’Liar” and Sean “Insanity”. At the helm of this “Sly Fox Dissimulation” and cast of news impostors, their boss, “Purport Fraudcock”!!



“Sly Fox” has infested their prime time news broadcasts with the largest group of fraudulent artifices any medium has ever seen.



It wasn’t the Democratic Party that used counterfeit terror alerts; it wasn’t the democrats who lied about Iraq and attacked a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. These spurious and evil hoaxes were led by George W. Bush and his Republican Administration. He was aided and abetted by the perilous cult at Fox News Channel!! Your cult leaders have been exposed by Keith Olbermann; sorry his truthful reporting is against the crazed teachings of those you worship at Fox News Channel!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:48 PM)

Solid show tonight, especially the #4 story and exposing the contradictions in Bush's rhetoric from January to the present regarding Iraq. Thank you for that.

Here is something I don't understand:
When Bush is discussing Iran and beating the drum of war so blatantly, as in the #4 story, why doesn't someone in the audience express their disbelief on the spot?

I would "boo" him like crazy, unless they screened me out of the crowd, as per the protestors manual we recently learned about.

James, NYC, NY (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:00 AM)

Well he should probably council with Preacher Ted Haggard who after all has been cured as if there was something wrong with being gay.There may be something wrong with solicitation Airport bathroom or any place else for sex but if your a Republican apparently you have moral values are Pros at various sexual innovations.Us liberals got noting against Gays,Larry,Scott,and Wayne.Liars,hypocrites and killers do kind of confuse us with all their moral conservative family fundamentalist Republican Christian Values.Well at least there weren't any sheep in the airport.
Ted Haggards' the guy to handle this intervention.He has the experience and is recovered from whatever he recovered from?

B.A. Buddusky (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 AM)

Feeling just a tad extra snarky on this eve of Katrina's second anniversary, so let's get it all over in one, eh?

Craig may have "come out" swinging, but his defense is still back in the toilet. (And is it just coincidence that we got a "flaming toilets" story on Oddball tonight?)

Meanwhile, just for the record (and not that scratchy old LP Bush keeps playing), Iran and the IAEA have made progress. Must have slipped that one past Cowboy George while he was buffing his sabre.

Special Prosecutor? If not now, when? 'Nuff said!

And NASA would probably benefit more from putting Luke's plasmotronic pigsticker on eBay than in orbit.
(Or give it to a Jedi who knows how to use it, to defend the Republic against Grand Muff-it-all Bush and would-be emperor Palpitation.)

Finally, it sounds like Gibson must have drunk waaay too much Ovaltine getting the Secret Decoder Ring with which he translates those messages he hears. Stick to the Kool-Aid, Johnnie, it makes you sound silly enough as is.

(And yes, I did skip over one subject entirely, though this post might be considered "all over the map".) Clear skies and gentle breezes, all!  ;)

Niels, snarkin' and snerkin' on Bayou DeGradeabelle, Post-Katrina MS (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:39 AM)

Is there a link between the personal depravity of hypocrites, such as Craig, and the depravity of cynical policy of George "W"? Both exist and are nurtured in the hubris and rrogance of exclusivity from accountability. The late and undearly departed Leona Helmsly was speaking the truth of the rreality (which is why she got her prison term). We're lik those little people in the Capitol-One commercials: just some nuisances.

Craig and Bush carry on as country club aristocrats as they seek to camouflage themselves as misconstrued regular folks. The only difference between them and Leona Helmesly was that she wasn't going to put on an act or pretense of havin g any affinity or care about us Peeps. These guys know that there are enough wanna-bees in the Peeps rank to patronize and delude that they are there kind of folks.

Bucco Mert (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:18 AM)

Having read the PDF of the plea agreement I don't see any mention of soliciting for sex. So far the press has presented the story as if Sen. Craig had pled guilty to the original charge. At this point, though I have my doubts about the fellow they still don't have a smoking gun.

BTW
"Going 'Nucular': "

"Nucular is a metathesis of the word nuclear which represents the 'NEW-cue-lerr' ( IPA [ˈn(j)uːkjə.lə(ɹ)] ) pronunciation of that word instead of the more commonly accepted pronunciation 'NUKE-lee-ar' ( IPA [ˈn(j)uk.li.ə(ɹ)])

This pronunciation is disapproved of by some who consider it a mispronunciation, although most influential dictionaries recognize it to some extent and it appears to be used increasingly"
"Merriam-Webster receives enough questions about their inclusion of this pronunciation in the dictionary that it is one of two pronunciations which receive particular mention in their FAQ (along with "February").[2]"

"U.S. Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter (who served as an officer on a United States Navy experimental nuclear submarine[3]), Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush have all used this pronunciation,[4][5][6] however Bush has become most closely associated with it due to his repeated use of it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucular

Wayne, TN (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:55 AM)

Off topic abit
Reuters
Ailing Cuban leader Fidel Castro is tipping Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to team up and win the U.S. presidential election.

Say no more.  Clinton and Obama have the endorsement of Fidel Castro.  This may come back to haunt them.

Keith, Allentown PA (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:49 AM)

Larry Craig's not gay...he just plays one in public restrooms?

Jan from CA (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:03 AM)

Larry,

Keep your feet out of my stall.  I don't really care if you have a wide stance.

Mike, AL (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:24 AM)

Clinton was a bad boy? What a creepy thing to say. Wonder who else Senator Craig says that to.

Jonathan Turley and John Dean, I work in a very nice firm with very nice people. Can be a little boring though. Sure wish you two would come here and work. You're two of the most interesting guests I have ever heard anywhere.

To all my News Hole friends and foes, tonite the Red Sox will be facing Roger Clemens and the NYY @ 7:00 on ESPN. This is just a reminder to anyone with children who love baseball. Next year will be the last season we will be able to see a game at Yankee Stadium. So when planning for next summer, I hope you all keep NYC & Yankee Stadium in mind for your family. It's a great great place to visit. Ellis Island and Yankee Stadium. Memories.

How good is that?

Pat, Boston, MA (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:44 AM)

Larry Craigs speech that "I'm not Gay" is reminiscent of a speech given by Richard Nixon "I'm not a crook" and we know how that turned out!!

Craig needs to come out of the closet and face what he is and then maybe he will be able to represent people fairly and honestly...

Scott Wellauer, Mesa, Arizona (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:54 AM)

I have three words for Senator Craig, "get a room", wide stance or not, keep your feet or any other body part to yourself. For years he has been running his mouth about Clinton and now this is the pot calling the kettle black. Yikes! His mantra of " I am not gay" is a little overboard and to repeat it a million times sounds like a cover up to me. The cloud isnt over Boise Idaho it is over him. He now has to face his family, and from the looks of his wife on tv, he needs to start with her.

Onto another subject, thanks for getting Professor Turley back on, he is the man to replace AG or better yet, KO, when you are on vacation, let him fill in. Peace to all, Denny!

DCohn, Cleveland,OH (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:01 AM)

Good morning, Steve (10:10 pm post). I always enjoy your great thoughts and your absolutely hilarious take on the COUNTDOWN stories, and it pains me to have to say this to you. I think you went over the line with your Harvey Milk-Dan White part of your post. Dan White was a sick sick SICK homophobe, and his murder of Harvey Milk and the fact that he basically got away with it was a crime (without going into the nuts and bolts of the trial, the aftermath, etc.). Dan White was the "Twinkie Defense" guy, remember? I enjoy and am as guilty of questionable satire and gallows humor as ANYONE, but Harvey Milk's murder is still a very tragic and sensitive issue for many people.

Having said this, I absolutely do not mean this as an attack on you. I'm sure you meant no harm by what you said, and please, please, PLEASE keep sending your wonderful thoughts here. NewsHole just wouldn't be the same without you!!!

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:09 AM)

"Here is something I don't understand:  When Bush is discussing Iran and beating the drum of war so blatantly, as in the #4 story, why doesn't someone in the audience express their disbelief on the spot?  I would "boo" him like crazy, unless they screened me out of the crowd, as per the protestors manual we recently learned about."

James, haven't you noticed that the only public appearances Dubya makes anymore are in front of stacked audiences?  On military bases, in front of the VFW, in front of the American Legion... the very definition of "preaching to the choir."

He doesn't have the balls to address a crowd that wouldn't be predisposed to support every idiotic thing he says.

Flipkid, Blue State (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:19 AM)

I heard the Castro endorsement too. I'm sure Rove is in a basement somewhere, right now, giggling. Castro likes Hillary and mutate that into Hillary is actually a Commie. Spin the wheel, Karl. I'm sure this will a beauty when you get done with it. If only you could use your talent for good. Let the smearing begin.

Frederick Sweeney, Brooklyn (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:26 AM)

W's provocative saber-rattling is truly scary. This guy sounds like a desperate man who has nothing to lose to he figures he'll start another war to leave this country in a total mess. I believe he would welcome another terrorist attack so he could find a way to delay the presidential election and declare martial law. It's all very Orwellian. God help us.

Pedro, Fort Lauderdale, FL (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:27 AM)

Senator Craigs defense of- I didn't talk to a lawyer I wanted to pay a fine and thought that would make it go away, proves two things. Republicans think it is better to be stupid than gay and they think the everyone else is an idiot.    

jen,il (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:33 AM)

#5: Anyone who ever took psychology 101 and stayed awake during the lecture about personality defense mechanisms knows what's happening here.  It's called projection, the mechanism whereby one exagerates the level of perceived flaws in others as a means of justifying their own level of flaw.  We saw this with Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, and now Larry Craig.  All we need to do is keep listening to the MSNBC, CNN, CSPAN, and especially Fox Noise and we should be able to predict who's next.

Robert Eckrich, Germantown, MD (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:45 AM)

Just writing to commend the wag who writes the heds for the supers (Keith, or does he delegate?), for they were firing on all cylinders last night--from "Electile Dysfunction" to the pun on Idaho that I am too tired to remember right now. Great stuff.

P.S. Why haven't any of the Democratic candidates told us their plan for rolling back domestic spying and the many other unconstitutional components of the Patriot Act? Special Comment, anyone?

a reader writes (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:53 AM)

Nobody seems to be buying Craig's story - not even the most hardcore Repubs. Standing at the podium and thundering out lies, blaming the police and the newspaper for their conspiracy - might have worked at times in the past, but not today. It is beyond irony that these people have taken a religion of love and tolerance, turned it inside out, and then get hoisted by their own petards doing the thing that they can't tolerate. Best of luck in your post-political life, Sen. Craig. Maybe you'll find Jesus.

Terry Ballard (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:16 AM)

Well, at least the economy is strong, the deficit is going down, our property values are going up, and we all have good health insurance!

What's that?

Oh, never mind.

fortuna, Houston, TX (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:20 AM)

Hey Pat, please give praise to Rudy for cleaning up NY so you can enjoy the game. I know it will be difficult , but try. Repeat after me , thanks Rudy for doing a masterful job of cleaning up NYC and making it a wonderful place to visit.

Larry Charleston, SC (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:23 AM)

Keith, Allentown PA (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:49 AM)

That's just plain garbage and who cares?  Did Hillary or Obama ask for Fidel's endorsement? I think not!

Lord above the right wing must be really afraid of the Democrats, they keep bringing out the big smear guns.  The sad part is that 28% believe this crap -- I repeat, so what?  

And no wayne, no one wants to read your wiki copies of Fidel's biography -- and larry, go find a book to read or a human to talk to.  Leave the discussion to mature, rational adults.  

There are 510 days until the end of this regime on 1/20/2009
There are 433 days until election day -- 11/4/2008
Use them wisely and think before you vote.  
And we are counting down.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:25 AM)

Wayne: I'm sure G.W. will read Merriam-Webster & feel vindicated- right after he's finished "My Pet Goat".

Nanalinda, San Antonio, TX (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:27 AM)

I have this odd feeling that Bush is going to pull something in Iran before he leaves office. For those who have loved ones' whose tours of duty have already been extended in Iraq be prepared to see even more extensions when Bush inflames the entire region after taking action against Iran. Cheney is behind much of this and I believe that both have this twisted belief that they want to be seen as God entrusted world liberators. Unfortunately neither have considered it just may be the devil speaking to them and not God.

C A, Tuscaloosa, Al (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:08 PM)

Larry Craig "I'm not Gay", "I have a wide stance" I mean c'mon even nitwit Brit Hume didn't buy that second one. "I'm not gay" to that I'll add . I just like cruising in public restrooms in my spare time!
Of course if Larry Carig and the seemingly endless list of R's were openly gay they would not be able to court the "yahoo vote" from the "bombs and jesus crowd".

Bill Rochester NY (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:16 PM)

Hey Keith, love your show, we really need someone like yourself to counter the torrent of neoconservative spin coming from the likes of Fox Noise and comedian Rush.  Which brings me to the reason for writing.  Your colleague Dan Abrams was sounding a bit like Billo the other day when he was attacking Christiane Amanpour of CNN on her series "God's Warriors".  I watched the series and thought it to be very well done and fairly well balanced.  Candidly, I see no difference in fundamentalist/fanatic Christians, Moslems or Jews.  All three are extremist in their views, and all three want to shove their agenda down the planet's throat.  All three have been known to resort to violence, including murder.  In my opinion, Abrams was off base in attacking Ms. Amanpour for comparing an extremist Christian group to the Taliban.  When you look at their operating rules, the parallels are striking.  Hey, if the shoe fits.....  Therefore, I must nominate Mr. Abrams for Worst Person.  Thanks!

John from Silicon Valley, CA (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:18 PM)

Mike, AL (Sent Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:46 PM) from a previous post.  

You win, I will concede that you have stumped the trolls and successfully named one qualified '43' appointment -- Colin Powell.  A lot of the first term appointees, those with ethics, resigned quickly in disgust.  larry, wayne and scott didn't even try to name one, they were too busy with regurgitating the daily right wing talking points.  

I only wish that '43' and cheney hadn't used and abused Powell's reputation.  I also wish that he had stood up this administration about the nonsense of invading Iraq -- no matter what the stated excuse du jour was at the time -- IT WAS FOR THE OIL.  By keeping silent, he enabled their crimes against humanity.  They've destroyed the infrastructure of Iraq and the Iraqi citizens will be paying for their hubris for years to come.  Saddam was bad, but what we've done is worse.  I do not blame the troops, I blame bush, cheney and their enablers.  

There are 510 days until the end of this regime on 1/20/2009
There are 433 days until election day -- 11/4/2008
And we are counting down.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:18 PM)

Why would anybody be surprised by the Bush's current "nucular" talk?  He's got to divert attention from Gonzo, Petraeus, the national intelligence estimate, Senator Craig, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.  With that many things to divert from, a little old elevation of the terror alert level wasn't going to cut it.  The image of "nucular holocaust" certainly transcends mere alert colors. Besides, it was readily available in the Bushies' dirty tricks archives.  After seven years of "same old, same old," you wouldn't expect them to think of anything new, would you?

Bonnie (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:20 PM)

Keith in Allentown: How much dinero did Rupert Murdoch give to Cuba to coax that staement out of Fidel? Yesterday you said that Alito and Roberts were two of Bush's qualified appointees. Yes two competents out of how many hundreds of unqualified hacks,cronies,and right-wing nutcases. That is WAY BELOW the Mendoza line .

Bill Rochester NY (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:21 PM)

Pat I will be saddened when the sacred "house that Ruth built" is no more. As a lifelong Yankee fan and ex-Catholic the place is holier than Lourdes to me.

Bill Rochester NY (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:24 PM)

This morning on the Stephanie Miller show a caller who claimed to be a classmates of Larry Craig at Boise State said Larry Craig was forced to change his major from animal husbandry to political science after being caught with a goat in his dorm room!
The caller was quite adamant about the veracity of this statement. Repeatedly telling Ms. Miller to look it up. I guess Larry misunderstood what animal husbandry meant!

Bill Rochester NY (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:30 PM)

Hmm Carol, Long Valley NJ,Actually Larry Johnson,the CIA Agent who defended Valerie Plame Wilson on the Countdown Show I believe made the Twit famous in describing Victoria Toensing("that twit") for trying to justify outing MS Plame Wilson.I'm still laughing about it.
This administration is the house of unaccountable denial,and Carol they need every Twit they can get.Barney is probably secure on a strong leash or ball and chain.  
Vitter/Foley/Gonzo/Cheney/Rummy/Rover/Condi/Foot Tappin Larry Craig /Deny/Deny/Deny.... course they have no worries MS Pelosi wont impeach. And Harry Reid will say shucks he was just tapping his foot.
They are pros at tapping,with words around the issues that is.

B.A. Buddusky (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:45 PM)

Liars, hypocrites and killers do kind of confuse us with all their moral conservative family fundamentalist Republican Christian Values. Well at least there weren't any sheep in the airport.
B.A. Buddusky (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 AM)

You hit it out the park B A; it also reminds me of one of my favorite lines you used here a while back; "The Karma Momma gave 'em a whooping like Muhammad Ali in his greatest days"!!

This hypocrite, like Vitter spoke out loud and vigorously against the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Karma indeed!!

However, more scandalous is that he could be a child predator. Craig was involved in an investigation in 1982 for allegedly having sex with underage congressional pages.

Hypocrite, while certainly proper, might not be the prefix that should be used preceding “Larry Craig”. Child molester might be a more justifiable preface!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:45 PM)

Way to go Wayne, you try and prop up your long-time lover Bush by pointing out that past Presidents have mispronounced "nuclear" as well.  While Merriam-Webster may receive questions about it and in some cases include the pronounciation, that does not make it correct.  If everyone says something the wrong way, that does not make it right, it is still wrong.  We didn't drop a "nucular" bomb on Japan and don't have any in our stockpiles.  We aren't worried about North Korea or Iran getting their hands on a "nucular" bomb.  We're worried about "nuclear" bombs.

It's amazing that you can come on here and accuse "liberals" (which is everyone you don't agree with) of being capable of nothing more than character assassination, but it appears that the only character ass I can see is you...  Maybe you and the Miss Teen South Carolina could get together and use your amazing mental powers to figure that one out together.  For the betterment of all "U.S. Americans" as she so wonderfully put, please.

Clint - Columbia, MO (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:18 PM)

Let's all give credit to Rudy. He gives it to himself all the time even though I have read quite the opposite about Rudy's role in the clean up of NYC. He's painted actually by a great many as a racist, which New Yorkers found quite troubling. But if Rudy says he responsible for NYC, then it must be true.

Pat (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:45 PM)

nanalinda      More likely finished with "Craig's Pet Goat".

Texashogfan (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:56 PM)

Wayne, TN (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:55 AM)

You seem to defend sex offenders Wayne? Anything we should know?

Justice (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:59 PM)

I am quite surprised that a bunch of liberals whose only "skill" is character assassination think they are qualified to judge the qualifications of anyone.  I guess I am not that surprised, the left is chuck full of arrogant no-nothing gossipers.  What would really surprise me is if a leftist actually submitted an informed idea to improve something, rather than simply gossiping about others.

scott henderson nv (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:05 PM)

Just heard dubya telling citizens of NOLA that things are getting better, that tomorrow it will even be better.  He needed to finish the thought---  It'll be alot better in January 2009.

Texashogfan (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:06 PM)

This morning on the Stephanie Miller show a caller who claimed to be a classmates of Larry Craig at Boise State said Larry Craig was forced to change his major from animal husbandry to political science after being caught with a goat in his dorm room!
The caller was quite adamant about the veracity of this statement. Repeatedly telling Ms. Miller to look it up. I guess Larry misunderstood what animal husbandry meant!
Bill Rochester NY (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:30 PM)

Smear and innuendo.  I can't believe that you objectively listen to a program that spends its on air time on non issues, rumors, and flat lies.  No wonder this country is in trouble

Keith, Allentown PA (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:07 PM)

Re Senators Vitter and Craig and other GOP faithful who have been caught in (uh) compromising activities, to put it mildly:  I have come to the sorrowful conclusion that the far right of the GOP will forgive those clowns anything as long as they make the appropriate noises about how they support family values, oppose abortion, and would deny gay people the right to occupy space if they could manage it.  It would appear that even serial rape and murder would be forgiveable if the appropriate noises are made.  And before you call me on that outrageous charge, let me remind you that in the early days of his career, the late Ted Bundy was considered by many to be THE up and coming talent in the GOP.  Scary thought.

KT, TN (Sent Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:11 PM)



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