Ahmadinejad at Columbia, Gerbils In Space

Posted: Monday, September 24, 2007 4:37 PM by Countdown

Some of what we're working on for tonight...

From the protests, to the amazing introduction from Columbia's President, to all the ravings of Mr. Ahmadinejad himself, we'll have complete coverage of the big speech today, and a preview of what Iran's President will say tomorrow at the UN (btw, the transcript of Ahmadinejad's denial of Iranian homosexuality after the jump...it's priceless...and here's the video).

Plus...the current President thinks he knows who the Democrat(ic) nominee for the presidency will be. Is this Mr. Bush talking off the cuff, or is Karl Rove still in Bush's Brain?

Also...Congresswoman Jane Harman alleges that last month the president used "bogus" intelligence to scare lawmakers into thinking there might be an attack on the Capitol...so they would expand the government's spying abilities. Yes, it's the nexus of politics and terror, folks.

All that, plus Marcia Brady might have gotten busy with one girl of her own, and scientists may send gerbils to Mars.

PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD: In Iran, we don't have homosexuals like in your country. (Laughter.) We don't have that in our country. (Booing.) In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who's told you that we have it. (Laughter.)

But as for women, maybe you think that being a woman is a crime. It's not a crime to be a woman. Women are the best creatures created by God. They represent the kindness, the beauty that God instills in them. Women are respected in Iran. In Iran, every family who's given a girl is given -- in every Iranian family who has a girl, they're 10 times happier than having a son. Women are respected more than men are. They are exempt from many responsibilities. Many of the legal responsibilities rest on the shoulders of men in our society because of the respect culturally given to women, to the future mothers. In Iranian culture, men and sons and girls constantly kiss the hands of their mothers as a sign of respect, a respect for women, and we are proud of this culture.

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Comments

Hi. Was it just me, or could anyone else not access the link to the Columbia president's intro today? The link said you had to be a subscriber to be able to read the whole thing. I don't think the guy pulled any punches, and it sounds like our "guest" from Iran didn't, either.

And, I think that GW, Turd Blossom, et al want to keep Senator Clinton's name in the forefront as the "shoo in" Democratic nominee to prep the slings, arrows, mud, fecal matter, and whatever else the Republicans have in mind for her if she does get the nomination.

Far be it for this administration to use fear as a political tool. Oh...never mind...

Gerbils in space, huh? Guess that beats gerbils in any other creative locales.

On that note, SEE Y'ALL LATER, EVERYONE!!

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:19 PM)

It is sad that bush won't meet with a leader of another country (when he would rather bomb the hell out of them). I think he should be aloud to speak.

When are our rep. in Washington going to get their heads out of bush's butt.

Jesus wasn't a fascist (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:25 PM)

Congresswoman Jane Harman, sadly, is my congresswoman. She has done nothing but co-sign George W. Bush's BS and has given him 100% backing on his Iraq policies.

She is a disgrace to the Democratic Party, she is a disgrace period!! Perhaps she getting ready for 2008; however, she won't be getting my vote, she's no better than George W. Bush himself!!

I'll provide more research later; I hope it doesn't turn out to be a waste of my time.

PEACE!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:32 PM)

While I do think that our government should engage in talks with Iran, Ahmadinejad speaking at Columbia University is different.

Ahmadinejad's invitation to speak at Columbia University is just another example of the rampant anti-semitism and moral relativism that is too present on college campuses today.

gothamtomato (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:36 PM)

Don't forget. The Republican WANT Hillary to be the nominee because they believe so many white men hate her and that most American aren't ready for a woman president. Especially one with such easy target baggage.

If Obama was the nominee, they would suddenly have to treat lightly on that whole 'race' issue. Also, Obama's only real liability is his limited resume', which doesn't offer a lot of talking points to hit. Otherwise, they would just make fun of his name and use his middle name to scare people.

But, Hillary is an ememy the know well and have plenty of ammo for.

WJ

Walter J. Murdock, Cincinnati OH (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:54 PM)

Krista..couldn't access it either..

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:56 PM)

Walter J. Murdock, Cincinnati OH (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:54 PM)

And if you have nothing you'll just "Swift Boat" her!! By the way FOX is already making fun of Senator Barack Hussein Obama's name, and have been for at least six months now, BIGOTS!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:58 PM)

Krisa, me neither.

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:58 PM)

I posted a blog the other day and it was never posted...perhaps because it postulated a few rights for bloggers on "News Hole." But I'll try again.
1. The top five stories should be posted for that day in a timely manner. I don't think a deadline of 4pm EST would be an unreasonable expectation.
2. The blog's comments should be updated on a more timely basis. On weekdays, I would think every half hour would be sweet. On weekends, every hour would be nice.
3. When the blog was last updated should be included in the header for number of comments, so that we could see at a glance when the blog was last updated.
The Countdown/News Hole community is very passionate...it deserves to be treated with consideration for its loyalty to Keith Olbermann & MSNBC.
I'd welcome any other suggestions by my fellow bloggers. Perhaps we can agree on what minimal standards would be acceptable to us as News Hole bloggers.
For an excellent article on Keith, please see: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071008/kitman

Gary (Navy Vet), Ottawa, OH (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:08 PM)

Gary (Navy Vet), Ottawa, OH (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:08 PM)

Gary,

I read this the other day and commented back; however, my comment didn't make the blog.

THANK YOU, this is wonderful!!

PEACE!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:15 PM)

The "Wall Street Journal" requires an id and a password -- you also have to pay an annual fee. Student's get a discount. It would have been kinder if NewsHole had found a 'free' link.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:15 PM)

Gary (Navy Vet), Ottawa, OH (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:08 PM)

Your post showed up on
http://thenewshole.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/21/375234.aspx?p=2

Thank you for the link -- I enjoyed the article.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:16 PM)

Jane Harman - Now THERE'S a congresswoman to support. She's her own person, follows her own beliefs and is up for any fight. And on top of all that, she's a Democrat. ALL HAIL JANE!! ALL HAIL JANE!!

Full Moon (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:30 PM)

Iranian President ImMadInTheHead should be thanking President Bush for stupidly refusing to talk to him, threatening his country and calling him names. These actions led to an unbelievable amount of world press coverage for him.

If it were not for President BombsALot and his insane foreign policy, this tin pot dictator would be relegated to being a small footnote in the world. Instead, he's being treated like a world leader.

So let him give his speeches and lay his wreaths without giving the insults which only gives him a major platform where he looks like a victim. His own words are his worst enemy.

Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:43 PM)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-news/comments/2007/09/24/65588
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/24/AR2007092401042.html

Just Me (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:49 PM)

The fascist wants to discriminate against gays, attack sovereign countries, develop nuclear weapons, and force his fundamentalist religion on everyone. He ignores human rights abuses and endorses torture. He's used chemical weapons on civilians, imprisoned thousands without trial.And now the draft dodging coward
Texas wannabe from Connecticut wants to address the UN. Maybe Collin could do a little slideshow again.

M. Foley, Florida (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:50 PM)

M. Foley -

Yep, it's George W. Bush alright, you nailed it!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:56 PM)

M. Foley - I'm confused - are you talking about Bush, Ahmadinejad or making a historical reference to Saddam Hussein? It sounds like all of them.

Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 7:00 PM)

Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:43 PM)

That's funny, we call him "I'm a dinner jacket". It's pretty close and funny.

M. Foley, Florida (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:50 PM)

I think that this could be the start of a beautiful relationship. Great post.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 7:01 PM)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/24/AR2007092401042.html
Transcript of President AAhmadinejad's speech

University President Lee Bollinger's introduction
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-news/comments/2007/09/24/65588?load=1&page=7#comments

Sorry :)

Just Me (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 7:15 PM)

Well considered & well stated, Gary Navy Vet.

Old-fashioned unmoderated list-serves can sustain remarkably in-depth discussions -- something impossible here when half the posts are lost in the ether, the discussion has to start all over again every night rather than building from day to day, and some pretty banal stuff gets past the gatekeeper. I certainly appreciate the research and reflection some of the regulars put into their posts; it's a real shame how much is clearly lost to poor web-management. Is there really no commitment at MSNBC for someone to make this "award winning" blog a priority rather than a task to be done between 16 other things?

This may be a rhetorical question, but are there really no conservative contributors capable of a cogent dialogue, only wingnuts tossing out flame-bait?

And less with the "great jobs," and the creeping tendency toward "yur awsums" these can fall into.

Yes I'm whiney, but I think Countdown is an important show and would really really really like to see a discussion group that is its equal.

Les (War on Poverty Vet) , Jamestown NY (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 7:19 PM)

Wag the Dog with Social Security is in Trouble Mr.No New Taxes and take the eye off Iraq and we are going to bomb Mr. Ahmadinejad.
Tax Oil Profits and Oil Imports with Pass on to the Consumer to Pay your War and Social Security it will help with global warming problem and save lives.
BTW this has been a Problem since mm you all have been borrowing from the SS fund and not paying it back No New Taxes Liars and has Been Going on Since Reagan.And
if you wonderful countdown moderators could put my other post on here with my apology to the guest Mr. Ahmadinejad for the insults I would appreciate it.
We should all apologize to him and the world for Dubya being our president.Thank you Karl Rove,"Mr. Turd Blossum."

B.A. Buddusky (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 7:27 PM)

Wow! If the posts on this site are indicative of the intelligence, inclusiveness, and tolerance of the democrat party and its candidates then I think Republicans have a good chance to hold on to the Presidency next year. Do you all use the same sad comedy writer? The one-trick pony attempts at sarcasm are not only unfunny, many of them don't even make sense. I guess these are attempts to out-Olbermann Olbermann and he's not all that good at it unless you think his repetition of the word "sir" while grimacing in a comically menacingly way is funny. I'm sure the president loses a whole lot of sleep over Olbermann's commentaries. Keith, sir, you're no Edward R. Murrow, although you are beginning to bear a resemblance to Dan Rather. Good night, good luck, and what's the frequency?

Steven Rennie, Fillmore, NY (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 7:53 PM)

Gary (Navy Vet), Ottawa, OH (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 6:08 PM)

What gives you, or me, or anyone else the right to place "expectations" on how this blog is run? If so, maybe there ought to be some expectations for content, as well. This continuous posting about posting is getting pretty tiresome, but I'll defend to the death your right to post about posting. Forgive me, however, if I nod off now and then.

Voltaire (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:05 PM)

Ahmadinejad may be an idiot...and i dont like him at all...but he at least has the nerve to come to a country who hates him and whose leader wants to remove him..

bush goes to a country after he bombed the hell out of it..id like to see bush to go to iran and speak at a university there...or any university outside the US!!!

Paul Moreno, San Antonio, Texas (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:11 PM)

I am still reeling from President Ahmadinejads statement that the holocost had nothing to do with the Palestenians and this is why he wants more research. Why were they connected when we are no it took place in Europe and not the Middle East?

MC Houston, TX (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:19 PM)

I am really impressed with M. Foley..I totally thought I was reading about the Iranian Pres. and then DOH! AWESOME!! I am so jealous I didn't think of it first..

Also, Les, right on, regarding your question of whether or not there are any conservative bloggers capable of participating in cogent conversation. I think not, because their positions are becoming more and more untenable.

I have read William Kristol's defenses of the Bush administration (In the Washington Post, Opinions section). The responses readers have given to Mr. Kristol's articles are uniformly along the lines of: 'Are you insane and how long has it been since you've had a brain scan/taken your medication/recovered from your lobotomy'..etc, etc.

I want to know WHY a president who has a whopping 33 percent approval rating, who has lost control of Congress and is a laughing stock of 70 percent of America and most of the world (excluding Albania of course), is still allowed to continue on a course of disaster? Why is he allowed to veto children's healthcare and keep the Iraq Conflict going, despite the demands of the majority of Americans??

I keep hoping the majority of Americans will see through the smoke and mirrors tacticts the GOP uses everytime they don't want to deal with fixing real issues.. Bad Economy? "Ban Homosexual Marriage!" Disasterous War? "General Petraus, Honorable Veteran Slandered..Requires Congressional Action."

I'm sick of it all, and I want my country back!!

LT in MD (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:23 PM)

Just read all the stupid comments. Don't you have any viewers who see through your rantings? I go through empteen bottles of Pepto Bismo after I happen to tune in to Countdown. How long will it be until you join Phil Donahue. Your advertisers aren't all that dumb.

Bill Smith (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:24 PM)

Ahmadinejad is proof that the devil speaks English and it's REAL interesting that the liberal media, while expressing their distaste for him, always find some way to elevate his American presence over that of our own President Bush. Whose side are you pathetic libs REALLY on?

Full Moon (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:31 PM)

Er, Mr. Rennie, there is a reason people are feeling less than tolerant, but since you want to focus on surface issues, like the party you support, are about to find yourself on the wrong side of history.

If you think our 'liberal' opinions are offensive, why don't you go hang out at Ann Coulter, Michael Savage or Bill O'Reilly's blogs? Those folks are so much nicer and much more reasonable than us unintellectual liberals. Don't let that invisible door hit you in the back end there, oh sorry my attempt at bad librul humour. Didn't mean to offend ya, you beacon of tolerance you.

LT in MD (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:33 PM)

Gary,

The Nation article is not onlya good article about KO but also about what is wrong, wrong, wrong about network evening news.

"Voltaire," Les from Jamestown explains why regular posters here find the current News Hole format and maintenance frustrating. I think many who read and post here want to engage in real "conversation," which is tough to impossible in the current format.

M. Foley: My husband heard the first part of the Columbia president's introduction of Ahmadinjad and thought he was talking about Bush. Really.

Just heard the "Best Person" item about the college professor who was fired for suggesting the Garden of Eden story should be read metaphorically. I'm teaching World Literature this term and was quite careful to explain (more than once) that if students' religious beliefs require literal reading, I won't argue with them for the world. But that literary reading has its own rules. So far I've been lucky--no fundamentalists have tried to get me fired and no radical ancient Sumerian cults have protested our metaphoric reading of Gilgamesh. It is, probably, only a matter of time....

Linda, Pittsburgh (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:46 PM)

Although I am admirer of your show,I have worked with Iranians and thus have passing knowledge of their culture. Thus I am profoundly disappointed in your shallow coverage of the titular head of Iran's comments at Columbia. Pres A is not perfect but I think he performed admirably in the face of Bollinger's abysmal lack of common courtesy and cultural sensitivity. Just more of the ugly American syndrome and you fell into the trap.

Delphine Herbert, Ocala, Florida (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:48 PM)

The russians are working with gerbils. Why are you showing video of MICE? And earlier in the show you referred them to as hamsters, which is yet another distinct species of rodent. I'm quite certain your learned astronomer friend did not choose the video.

Stephen P. Schaefer, Chapel Hill, NC (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 9:02 PM)

Paul Moreno, San Antonio, TX wrote: "[I']d like to see bush to go to iran and speak at a university there...or any university outside the US!!!"

-- Like when he spoke at Tsinghua University in Beijing, China? Like when he spoke at the University of Singapore? Like when he spoke at Warsaw University in Poland? Here's a perfect example of how NOT fact checking leads to a completely erroneous question.

-- Ahmadinejad on Iranian homosexuals: "We don't have them . . . not live ones anyway."

kingsXrulz, San Diego, CA (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 9:06 PM)

Bill Smith (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:24 PM)

Thanks for the stock tip Bill and please keep watching, I'm calling my broker tomorrow at 5:00AM!!

Nice work sir!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 9:07 PM)

Columbia's President was spot on! I thought it was absolutley refreshing to hear. I got to listen to him live on msnbc.

The Iranian president was dodging all the questions and proved himself to be a big fat liar and spin artist. No gays in Iran? I think that was such laughable statement! He also loves the Jews? Sure, the guy is TOTALLY believeable!

I may not like what you have to say but I MUST defend your right to say it. Free speech is alive and well at Columbia University at least!

MK, Indianapolis (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 9:14 PM)

I'm not a big fan of the Iranian President -- I hope he gets voted out of office in 2009.

But it cracked me up today when Fox news hacks went after him for his country's treatment of homosexuals. Objections about Iran's treatment of gays seems very hollow in the face of all the anti-gay diatribes coming from talking heads on Fox.

Maybe this is a chance to lead Iran by example. If Iran treats gays poorly, we should REALLY make Iran look bad by treating gays better than any nation in the world! Otherwise, the US does the same evil as Iran, we're just guilty to a different degree.

If we are going to bash Iran, we need to firmly decide which side of the pro-gay/anti-gay debate we align ourselves. Do we align ourselves on the same side as Iran, or not?

Pablo B, United States (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 9:39 PM)

Gary (6:08 pm post), thanks for sharing the link to the story and for your service to our country in the Navy!

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 9:42 PM)

I had no problem with Ahmadinejad going to ground Zero, but then a friend's response was "what would stop him from going home and saying the wreath was in memory of the dead terrorists"

John Donahue, Los Angeles, CA (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 10:17 PM)

Just a thought: there is a middle ground between rude treatment of an invited guest and uncritical acceptance of whatever that guest might say. If officials at Columbia wanted to invite Ahmadinejad to speak, they should have suggested, in advance, a discussion format, and debated the speaker's own words and ideas rather than insulting him in the introduction. The absurdity of his comments on homosexuality and the laughter that followed shows that, given an responsible forum (not handpicked supporters or opponents), Sue from West Allis is right: his words are his own worst enemy.

I am no admirer of George Bush, and his support for torture and unprovoked war makes him very unpopular overseas. But I wouldn't think much of anyone who invited him to speak and then behaved the way Bollinger did. I've been in academic life a long time and tI am never surprises when supposedly "smart" people do incredibly stupid things.

Linda, Pittsburgh (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 10:41 PM)

Jesus wasn't a fascist (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 5:25 PM)

Please don't make assumptions you can't possibly have any knowledge of.

Jesus (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 10:50 PM)

LT in MD (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 8:33 PM)

We all know that liberals think they are intellectual, the rest of us realize they are just indoctrinated.

MD in AZ (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 10:55 PM)

Hmmm M. Foley, Florida.. what was the name of that congressman from Florida that dissappeared after being caught going after the male interns in Washington.. correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it Mark Foley.. I hope ya are just kidding with that name, cause it's giving me a laugh, thanks! The name and what you say doesn't match...:) Nothing personal.. I am awful when it comes to being curious.. :D
To all my blogger buddies.. to me nothing is new or surprising.. it's the same thing everyday.. another day.. another lie coming out.. threats from the people in the white house etc.. this has been going on for over 6 years, I'm tired of growling, and getting upset watching each day pass and there is not changes to the good, only things getting worse... All the Dems can come out and say this or that.. but I still feel, they are all the same.. greed takes people away from being caring and compassionate.. ugh... and that's what is left up on capitol hill.

Brenda Deltona FL (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 10:58 PM)

"Wow! If the posts on this site are indicative of the intelligence, inclusiveness, and tolerance of the democrat party and its candidates then I think Republicans have a good chance to hold on to the Presidency next year. Do you all use the same sad comedy writer?"

I'm sure you are as right about there being a good chance of a Republican winning in 2008 as you neocons have been about everything else for the last six years. You all remind me of Karl Rove insisting only he had "the numbers" and that the Republicans weren't even gonna loose one seat in 2006.

I'm sure the Democratics are in their last throes, and the Republicans have turned a corner.

Scott Copeland, Naples, Fl (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 11:05 PM)

Strange that not supporting the redefining marriage to suit a tiny minority is somehow the same as castrating and hanging gays.
Hetrosexuals do not have the "Right" to marry others of their own sex so why should Homosexuals expect everyone to jump aboard the gay train on this issue?

"Steven Rennie, Fillmore, NY (Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 7:53 PM)"
Steve:
As a dyed in the wool psuedo-intellectual I find these pathetic chumps (most here not, all of course) one step below the bonobo.
I first visited this site expecting at least a semblence of intelligent discussion, now I mainly skip past the freakshow posts which take up almost all of every page.
Theres not really a lot of content on this site. No real discussion of anything beyond the Dem/Lib focus on truncated or out of context quotes and conspiracy theory.

Wayne, TN (Sent Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:18 AM)

sallyem45@yahoo.com (Sent Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:36 AM)

I have to agree with Delphine...wasn't Ahmedinajad (sp) invited to speak at Columbia? He didn't just stroll onto campus.

It's been established that he's, uh, not well-liked, but to hear him introduced like that by the university's president. Rude! I am not defending Ahmedinajad in any way other than to say he probably deserved a slightly less hostile introduction. Just a touch.

Karen, Phoenix (Sent Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:09 AM)

Regarding Jane Harman, last spring she voted “YAY” for the Iraq supplemental bill. Jane Harman had just came back from Iraq, and stated, "Look, I would love to have cast a vote against Bush on this. We need a new strategy and I hope we can force one in September. But I flew into Baghdad on a troop transport with 150 kids, heading into the field. To vote against this bill was to vote against giving them the equipment, the armor they need. I couldn't do that."

Her record is disgraceful and her recent "float down to earth get out of Iraq” rants are based on her fear of losing her seat in 2008. I’ll comment more about her voting record and her alliance with George W. Bush on another post, perhaps it will get posted then.

PEACE!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:50 AM)

I'm a moderate Independent. I'm the voter the politicians want to sway to their side. I'm also a middle income person. I own what I think is a nice house, I drive a 15 year old Volvo station wagon and I have a delightful husband who is from the UK. My husband and I own our own web design business and I work part time as a bartender. I'm pretty much happy with my day to day life.

What really makes my ass clench is this current environment in America where the tail wags the dog. Bush has a very low rating and that rating comes from the conservative Christian base who are being led like sheep. I believe that everyone should consult as many sources as possible and then make up their own mind.

You can like Keith Olbermann or not, but there is no mystery where he stands. And, I believe, that he uses the "Sir" because he is showing proper respect, as we all used to be taught before "time out" became more popular than spanking. I'm nearly 40 and I still use Ma'am and Sir when speaking to my elders and sometimes to people younger than me.

I appreciate that Keith Olbermann calls out the President and his administration on issues they should be facing. I remember the days of investigative reporters...not the current trend of reporting what the Bush administration wants you to hear.

Wyndi, Wilmington, NC (Sent Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:35 AM)

Wyndi, Wilmington, NC (Sent Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:35 AM)

Drink more KO kool aid. KO denigrates Bush in every broadcast. You obviously haven't seen his "journalism".

Ghost of NJ (Sent Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:25 AM)

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