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Countdown Thursday: Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil

Posted: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:59 PM by Countdown
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Showdown on the Hill: Democrats on Capitol Hill, showing signs of caving in to the president's demand that telecom companies be given ex-post-facto immunity for eavesdropping done on his behalf. The Republicans, showing no signs of remorse... for their smear campaign against a young boy who dared to criticize the president's decision to take away his health insurance. Our fifth story on the Countdown: Apparently the only person not being offered some sort of immunity deal in Washington today... was the only person who shouldn't have to defend himself: A twelve-year-old child. Senator Hillary Clinton, presently, to discuss the day's headlines...
 
Feeling the Draft?He already has an Oscar.. He's in the running for a Nobel Peace Prize -- he'll know by five A-M Eastern tomorrow. Our fourth story on the Countdown -- as Senator Clinton discussed just before the break -- might Al Gore still try and make it a trifecta - and run for the Presidency? That's certainly the hope of the "Draft Gore" movement.

ODDBALL: Richard Branson drops, a pumpkin smacks a van, and the world's ugliest robot.

Reality TV: To hear Bill O'Reilly tell it, and tell it, and tell it, and tell it... All three network newscasts -- which he should be anchoring... and all three network news divisions -- which he should be running... are staffed by, overseen by, and actively pursue the political agenda of the mighty liberal wing of the all-powerful Democratic Party. This, despite the fact that all three news divisions are controlled by TV networks, which are owned, in turn, by companies that are run by rich people, who are answerable to other rich people known as shareholders. And this one just gave him a seat on Jay Leno's couch to hawk his latest book. In our third story on the Countdown tonight, a new book looks at the news industry and, not surprisingly, discovers that virtually the entire medium lay down for Mr. Bush after 9/11... and well into the Iraq War.

Spears Pickle:  Something interesting happened today at a Britney Spears custody hearing. Totally accidental, nothing to do with Spears, or her kids, or the fact that she showed up late for a hearing she'd requested.It begins our nightly round-up of celebrity news, "Keeping Tabs."

WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD: Glenn Beck, John Gibson and Ann Coulter vie for tonight's top honor.

Talk to the HandThe present was the future to the artists, philosophers and scientists of the last millennium... who foresaw that, by now... mankind would have hovercrafts... space colonies... computers indistinguishable from humans... robots... and plenty of clones. In our number one story on the Countdown... If progress does not march quite that fast... We have now managed this as a civilization. An arm with an ear.

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Have any members of Congress read the Constitution?  It clearly states that no ex post facto laws shall be passed.  That is not hard to understand.
COME ON, UPDATE THIS BLOG.
You all better update the blog or Pam will call her exec buddies at MSNBC and get you all fired!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300719,00.html

Good grief, Air America is desperate. Now they are promoting an antheist radio show.
Draft Al Gore! First he told us he invented the internet and now the liar wins a Nobel and low and behold:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21259069/
NEWS HOLE - WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? UPDATE THIS BLOG.
Kevin of NJ

If you would watch KO's show you would know that your post is 'fact' challenged and he talked about it last night.  Your right wing bias is showing.  
SECOND ATTEMPT TO POST!!

I offer warm and well-deserved congratulations to former Vice President Al Gore, awarded with the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for his tireless efforts to raise awareness, in addition to mobilizing millions around the world, in his often uphill struggle at rallying efforts to solve the global warming crisis!! Kudos sir!!

Since being robbed of the presidency in 2000, Al Gore has been the epitome of a class act!! Having won an academy award and an Emmy, Al Gore has now been bestowed one of the greatest honors, the Nobel Peace Prize. I can’t help but look to words such as destiny, fate and karma.  While George W. Bush is deservingly in the toilet, former Vice President and should be President Al Gore is sitting at top of the world!!

I think I’ll tune in to Fox News Channel tonight; as I can’t wait to see Sean Hannity’s head explode live on TV!! Each your heart out Sean!!

PEACE!!
Carol

I give up, I have tried repeatedly to post a response to your request, but it has not shown up.  

BTW what fact challenging are you talking about.  My right wing bias, I don't think so.  Hillary will be exposed for who she is, an opportunist who conducts her politics in a politically expedient way.  You can have her if you want Carol.

As for Al Gore, he was awarded the same prize that Yasser Arafat won.  

BTW Nice try pam, the election was not stolen by Bush.  That was 7 years ago, get over it please
Pam: (1:40 PM Post): Ditto.
Mike. How about Larry Coulter?
Kevin of NJ (Sent Friday, October 12, 2007 1:06 PM)

If you disagree with the content of the show, don't listen to it.  Air America has many other great shows that you might enjoy (i.e Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow.  Kevin, you must be un-American and Anti-Constitution for not wanting freedom of speech.  I disagree with everything that media whore, Coultergeist, says but thankfully we live in a free country and she can't say what she wants in the name of all republicans.  The networks should stop giving her a platform, though.  As a Christian, I won't be listening to the Atheist program because I have different beliefs but living in this country they still have a right to speech.  I'm sure that by the end of Bozo's presidency he will remove the freedom of speech from the constitution as well.  So much for democracy.

How can the Rockies have won 18 of their last 19 games?  That is absolutely amazing.  Since there are no Braves in the post season for the second straight year, I think I'll jump on that Rockies band wagon.
News Hole: Where are the comments from last night? Please find them!!

You had ONE good day yesterday and not it appears you're "in the hole" - again!!
I wonder how different the world looks today if Al Gore wins the 2000 election.  There can no longer be any doubt that Mr. Gore would have been a more effective, humane, and competent president than Mr. Bush.  (After all, it turns out you don’t have to be very smart to muck up a war you never should have started and do nothing else substantial for seven years.)  Nevertheless, I hope Mr. Gore doesn’t run for president next year.  Let me tell you why.

There can be no doubt that Mr. Gore is still more qualified than anyone else currently in the field – in either party.  But, like Jimmy Carter, Mr. Gore has found his own “separate peace,” transcending the partisan political conspiring, bickering, and rancor that taints the presidency as it exists today.  Like Mr. Carter, he addresses issues from the perspective of the moral, rather than the merely political.  In short, Al Gore stands for something.

This is, of course, what presidents (like the ones on Mt. Rushmore) used to be.  But not any more.  They must be more pragmatic than idealistic, making hard choices among many alternatives, some of them unsavory.  Bill Clinton knew how to do that, and maybe even Ronald Reagan.  Hillary Clinton appears to know.  Bill Richardson, John Edwards, Chris Dodd might.  But, Al Gore should not be asked to.   He should be allowed to continue standing for something.

Like Mr. Carter, Mr. Gore certainly still has a critical role to play.  Anything where he can draw from his “moral” frame of reference to make a significant contribution.  But not the presidency.  Leave that to someone less than Mr. Gore.

(That Marc Antony guy ain't got nothin' on me.)
   Is no one concerned that Turkey has withdrawn their ambassador from the US?  I realize their not considered "Miss Congeniality" by the Greeks, Russians, and deservedly the Armenians, to name a few.  But the have provided us a strategic airspace and listening post for the cold war and whatever this war will be called in the future ("the frying pan war?") and all US military actions in between.
  Germany is actually a founding member of the EU and a member of the UN so I don't understand the argument that Turkey needs to confess for crimes comitted by the Ottomans in 1915.  Is our Congress a confessional for Muslims?
   Don't we have more pressing issues to address before Congress takes another break?
   Let Armenia make proclamations from its own government.  The Ottoman Empire has not existed since 1923 and apparently the Germans have been forgiven.
In my earlier blog..did I say the Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to former "President" Al Gore? Geez, wishful thinking? or just the late hours I keep..
Carol , how many times have I told you tax cuts produced record revenues to treasury. Stock market over 14000. Undoubtly great economic news to a liberal means nothing.  You obviously want me to say he vindicated millions of men be declaring a blow job as not cheating on your wife , Clinton's major accomplishment.
Kevin , NJ (1:47 PM Post): Come on Kevin, congratulate the man. Regardless if Hillary is an opportunists as are most if not all politicians, forget the left/right differences just for a moment, recognize that if the 2000 election were not stolen it was at least very close and give Gore just a bit of credit for his efforts on the global warming subject (whether you agree with him or not). Even GWB stated he was happy for Gore. Let's see if you can foget politics and the divisiveness that fills this blog and this country everyday, just for a moment. Come on Kevin. Just say it, short and sweet, Congratulations Gore.  
Pat, Boston, MA (Sent Friday, October 12, 2007 10:57 AM)

Pat -

Yes, former President Jimmy Carter did win a Nobel Peace Prize, well deserved indeed!!

Also, my prayers are with Senator Kennedy this morning!! I pray for a quick and full recovery from the surgery to repair a blocked artery.

Get well soon Senator Kennedy, we need you!!

PEACE!!
BTW Carol , please tella great accomplishment of any of the liberals running for president..... I'm waiting
JAM!! NOW DON'T YOU BE THINKING OF LEAVING US..At least read end of the week Countdown blogs and catch up somewhat that way. I would be very, very sad to see you go :-( Be with us when you can PLEASE..I would miss you way too much.
Oct. 12: A U.S. attack killed 15 civilians, 9 of them were children. They also killed 19 insurgents.  The military was targeting senior leaders of al-Qaida in Iraq, and were acting on intelligence reports.

Prime Minister al-Maliki has recently confronted Gen. Petraeus about what he sees as overly aggressive U.S. tactics that harm innocent civilians, according to Iraqi officials.

15 civilians.

And on and on it goes.
ALGore , Jimmy Carter , Yasser Arafat .. #PEAS IN A POD.

Al would have won if he could have had his people rush to the recount and push another chad. Unfortunately for him they couldn't figure out how to punch a hole in a piece of paper. Very unfortunate.
Steve 9:47 AM..thanks for starting out my day with a laugh..BTW..great having you back..AND STAY..darn it!
Bil Clinton has raised more money than Al Gore, plus add the tsunami relief. Clinton was robbed of the Peace Prize !
Kevin of NJ (Sent Friday, October 12, 2007 1:47 PM)

Try posting smaller posts.  I'm still looking forward to reading it.  

There is a new one hour program, on the weekends that discusses atheism.  So what.  I couldn't even find a reference to it on the Air America Home page.  With all the Religious programming on network and cable and satellite, one hour a week doesn't even qualify as a drop in the bucket.  Last time I checked, there were about 20 Christian programming channels on my satellite dish.  It isn't the 'godless' that start wars, it's religious zealots who start wars in the name of god.  

Last time I checked, free speech was not restricted to only the Christian right, at least not yet.  

And lastly, I haven't supported any candidate yet -- I am still undecided, I'm still reading and learning.  Hopefully I will make up my mind before the primary, but it won't be because of lack of research.  

As a novice liberal I have a hard time wrapping my mind around things sometimes.  Let me get this straight, Al Gore creates a movie full of factual errors, a movie that advocates poor people in developing countries should stay poor and undeveloped and he gets noble peace prize?  What does a flawed movie have to do with peace?  I guess it’s an advanced liberal thing.
I have a question about emailing COUNTDOWN through the "Email the show" link and have no recourse but to ask this here.
Several of us KO fans have been attempting to emasil the show and, we are ALL having our emails rejected.
Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Tom, DC (Sent Friday, October 12, 2007 1:11 PM)

Al Gore was instrumental in establishing the ARPA net which is the precursor of the Internet.  He didn't invent it -- only the 'right' wing says that.  He saw the future of it and made sure that it happened.
The annual prize needs to be as toxic as it's recipiant. Perhaps an asbestos or PCB award. I really like the sound of the E.Coli award but I wouldn't want to put E.Coli in the same group as billo.
waiting for missing comments to post.
Sue,

A favor, please send me an email reminding me why I must ignore these NeonNut, spineless trolls again.

Thnaks friend!!
No condemnation of Democrats allowed?
Draft Al Gore! First he told us he invented the internet and now the liar wins a Nobel and low and behold:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21259069/
Tom, DC (Sent Friday, October 12, 2007 1:11 PM)

Tom,
Please show me where Al Gore said he invented the internet.  You right wingers are so dumb you believe everything the spin machine puts out for you.  While in Congress, Gore was responsible for promoting technical development which led to the internet.  The individual from MCI Worldcom who is known as the "father of the internet" because he designed the networks computer language even said that the internet would not be where it is today without Gore's contribution.  I know the truth isn't as exciting as it is to try and destroy someone's credibility but sometimes you just must face it.  I think it was Dick Armey that started telling the press that Gore claims to have invented the internet and Repubicans ran with it.  It's like if we can't find any real dirt on the guy we'll make something up.  As someone who is in favor of everyone's freedom of speech, you can say whatever you want on the blog but please try and be honest and don't distort the facts.  And finally Tom, stop being jealous of Al Gore.  I know he was elected to the presidency in 2000, he has a great family, he won the nobel peace prize, he's making millions and millions for being a major stockholder in Google but I'm sure you have some things going for you also.
Kevin of NJ (Sent Friday, October 12, 2007 1:47 PM)

Kevin,
As I'm sure you know but failed to mention (in your attempt to distort the truth), Yasser Arafat won along with Shimon Perez and Yitzhak Rabin of Israel for their effort in establishing peace in the region.  The award has also went to Mother Theresa and MLK.  Do you care to also compare them to Arafat?
Stop being of Gore!!!!!!  Why are the republicans so jealous of Gore today?  Maybe if the republicans would do something in this world to at least resemble peace somebody from your party could also win someday.
Kevin of NJ o'pines (in the grand tradition of Bill O'rally): "...My right wing bias, I don't think so. Hillary will be exposed for who she is, an opportunist who conducts her politics in a politically expedient way..."

Hmmm... one person's "political expediency" is another's statesmanship.  Consider what that opportunist Bill Clinton did for the country and the world by triangulating a hostile congress and neo-cons bent on driving him from office. Look what "The Decider" did TO the nation and the world with the help of a lap-dog congress, supreme court, media and the urging of neo-cons without conscience.  Bill C (and Al Gore) are regularly referred to as statesmen by all but the wingnuts; GWB will never be anything but an embarrassment with an asterisk.
HELLO, ANYONE HOME AT NEWS HOLE?
For all you bloggers.  I attempted to provide a retort to several comments made, but it has been unsuccessful. As one of your resident neoconnutjob idiot trolls, I need to inform you that in about a half an hour I will not be looking at this until Monday sometime, so my non response is not because of lack of effort.

It's a football weekend.  Homecoming at Penn State.  Yippee.  Sue, from Wisky, Penn State over Wisconsin by 2 touchdowns.

I would suggest that everyone here forget about this for the weekend, and go enjoy the outside.  It is slated to be a beautiful fall weekend in the northeast.
How dare any one call Politicians, 'Opportunists'! No, Dubya has never stolen anything. It has all been stolen for him by Toads who live in the Bushes.
Nanalinda Wednesday October 10 11:28 PM..just came across your question on another thread.."Do you know if John Dean still considers himself a Republican"? I don't think so, he is an Independent now. He became an Independent when he started writing books so he could be objective enough to write about a Republican administration. He didn't want to have either side thinking he was one-sided so as not to close any doors when trying to gather information. But hearing him talk, I felt he was really, if anything, a moderate like most of us.
--I think I’ll tune in to Fox News Channel tonight; as I can’t wait to see Sean Hannity’s head explode live on TV!! Each your heart out Sean!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Friday, October 12, 2007 1:40 PM)"--

Fageddaboudit Pam.  Here's the echo-chamber talking point that you will hear - they claim that the Nobel Peace Prize has become a political statement to extremists like Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter.  That's their BS and they're sticking to it.  It's all over their blogs, websites and media.

Figures that the NeoConNutJobs would trash the Nobel Peace Prize since none of their buddies ever do anything to be considered for it.

Now, if only Al would run for president .....
UPDATE PLEEEEASE!
As a true liberal I believe that someone really needs to speak truth to power and point out the falsehoods in Al Gore's movie!!
Kevin in NJ- Here's some other Nobel Peace Prize winners, Mother Theresa, the Dahli Lama, Nelson Mandela, Linus Pauling, Martin Luther King jr, Jane Adams, Jimmy Carter, Teddy Roosevelt, and the Red Cross has won at least three times, but I guess they never did anything for anyone either.  Are you so angry because you realize bush will never have a beer with you or because fox told you to be?
Just checking back to see if the moderator on this blog had improved.  Guess not.  I guess I'll just stay checked out.  Keith deserves a better support staff that this.  Bye, y'all.

And an aside to Sue, West Allis (if you're still here), Tommy Thompson endorsed Giuliani today.  What a joke.  Like what he thinks makes a difference! LOL
--"And an aside to Sue, West Allis (if you're still here), Tommy Thompson endorsed Giuliani today.  What a joke.  Like what he thinks makes a difference! LOL
mad in Madtown (Sent Friday, October 12, 2007 4:25 PM)"--

Yeah, I'm still here, but Todd and Independent, among others, have gone.  I miss them.  Keep checking back - though, Mad.  Most of us haven't given up yet.

Moderation was better yesterday, but today ..... <heavy sigh>.  One of my posts is already missing in action.  LOL about the endorsements - it's 2 jokes in one (Guliani and Thompson).  

In fact, the Repugnikant candidates are all jokes - I think they know that 2008 is going to be a big loss so they're trotting out these buffoons like pawns.

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Friday, October 12, 2007 2:22 PM)

Hey Pam -- Did you see that True and I declared a truce?  
I wonder how different the world looks today if Al Gore wins the 2000 election.  There can no longer be any doubt that Mr. Gore would have been a more effective, humane, and competent president than Mr. Bush.  (After all, it turns out you don’t have to be very smart to muck up a war you never should have started and do nothing else substantial for seven years.)  Nevertheless, I hope Mr. Gore doesn’t run for president next year.  Let me tell you why.

There can be no doubt that Mr. Gore is still more qualified than anyone else currently in the field – in either party.  But, like Jimmy Carter, Mr. Gore has found his own “separate peace,” transcending the partisan political conspiring, bickering, and rancor that taints the presidency as it exists today.  Like Mr. Carter, he addresses issues from the perspective of the moral, rather than the merely political.  In short, Al Gore stands for something.

This is, of course, what presidents (like the ones on Mt. Rushmore) used to be.  But not any more.  They must be more pragmatic than idealistic, making hard choices among many alternatives, some of them unsavory.  Bill Clinton knew how to do that, and maybe even Ronald Reagan.  Hillary Clinton appears to know.  Bill Richardson, John Edwards, Chris Dodd might.  But, Al Gore should not be asked to.   He should be allowed to continue standing for something.

Like Mr. Carter, Mr. Gore certainly still has a critical role to play.  Anything where he can draw from his “moral” frame of reference to make a significant contribution.  But not the presidency.  Leave that headache to someone else.  


FOURTH ATTEMPT TO POST SINCE LAST NIGHT

The Media & George W. Bush – Part I

#3:  Not only did the entire “medium lay down for Mr. Bush after 9/11 and well into the Iraq War”, they gave George W. Bush an extended “honeymoon”!!  Typically, the media grants an incoming president a six-month honeymoon; George W. Bush was given a five-year honeymoon!!  

September 11th transformed media news anchors, commentators and journalists; sadly and irresponsibly, in a surreptitious manner. An example is the Dick Cheney footage released two months ago.  The media had that video footage years ago, it was intentionally withheld. Countless reports were buried, stamped “Dead on Arrival”; reports the media were obligated to share with Americans.  To ensure all such reports remained DOA, they were also stamped “Do Not Resuscitate”!!
The Media & George W. Bush – Part I

The media has also allowed George W. Bush and his criminal administration to retort to anyone questioning his administration’s policies and related legalities by answering, “September 11th changed everything”. No, it didn’t!!

The media lived in fear of being called unpatriotic or accused of being aligned with the terrorists.  While George W. Bush and his thugs appallingly provoked this fear, it was the job and the responsibility of the media to expose George W. Bush’s multifarious lies and irresponsible policies; they failed, and inexcusably!! The media is all but as culpable as George W. Bush for the lies leading up to the Iraq war, the raping of our constitution and the bombing of our civil liberties, maybe more!!

PEACE!!



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