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Countdown Tuesday: Plame, Flames & Carlin

Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:59 PM by Countdown
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Southern California is BurningResidents of the burnt-out neighborhoods of Southern California where the ravages of the fires are exhausted...Are still only being permitted to return for five minutes at a stretch -- and only if they can prove they left pets or vital medication behind as they fled. Yet, at the White House -- President Bush is already passing the buck of responsibility (if not yet the blame) onto state officials. Our fifth story on the Countdown: the emerging politics of the ultra-disastrous Santa Ana Wildfires of 2007, in a moment. First, the continuing crisis at the fire lines.

You Say Dubai: A California Congressman forced to apologize, forced to apologize by an Ohio Congressman who said 3700 American lives was a quote "small price to pay" for stopping al-Qaeda.

ODDBALL: A huge football player takes over London, a Maserati goes boom, and the fountain of Rush is found in Italy.

The Plame InterviewOn July 13th of 2003, Valerie Plame Wilson was the chief of operations for the joint Iraq task force of the CIA's counterproliferation division. Only a handful of people outside the CIA knew this. For 15-plus years, she had used various cover stories to conceal her identity as a C-I-A operative... and to cultivate a network of contacts and sources... as part of America's effort to prevent the spread of nuclear and other non-conventional weaponry. She was, in short, a rare and valuable commodity in the battle against Weapons of Mass Destruction -- and terrorism. And on July 14th, 2003, an American blew her cover to the media...

I'm A Little Bit Woozy: This is not like President Bush fainting over his sushi in Japan...Although it bares some disturbing similarities to Fidel Castro losing it and going head-first into some chairs in 2004. Leading our number two story tonight, Keeping Tabs. Marie Osmond -- and even in an environment as amateurish as "Dancing With The Stars" -- you could tell. That was not something the choreographer taught her.

WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD: The terrorist buster, Roger Ailes and comedian Rush Limbaugh vie for tonight's top honors.

George CarlinA TV comedian is running for President. A Republican Senator is doing stand-up. And the far right is screaming about the outing of a prominent educator. A fictional prominent educator. Our number one story on the Countdown: For 40 years, in such times of need, I have frequently relied on one man to make some sense of this crap. In a moment, that man, George Carlin, will join us.

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Like others, I see the new graphics as post-apocalyptic or Blade Runner.  But to me, this only seems fitting given that Countdown is a political news broadcast in especially confused and devisive times.  

And now we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night.

If that’s what you were going for, you got there.  Congratulations.  
#5 – Thanks, Countdown, for the precise analysis on the relationship between these horrific fires and global warming.  As I’ve been telling True Liberal (wherever he is now), it’s time – or even past time -- to act, even if we don’t know ALL the causes or dynamics of the problem.  San Diego is (or was) perhaps the most beautiful city I have ever seen.  This is already too high a price to pay for better shipping lanes through the Arctic, and we’ve only just begun to pay the price.
#4 -- Forcing a Congressman to apologize for comments made on the floor of Congress? I thought I’d seen everything.  Like a perverse version of “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.”  Only without anyone like Claude Rains with enough courage to take his medicine like a man (or woman).

Life perverting art.  Now, if only Congress could figure out how a bill becomes a law.
Fellow NewsHolers, I'm so happy I'm about to plotz!!! Keith, you have been blessed by the great one. You need to write this on your desk calendar in red ink!!

Heavy news first...I wonder what Chertoff's guts are telling him about the southern California fires? And, did I actually hear GWB say "...the FEMA..." in his speech today?! I'm almost positive I did. Ugh...the last thing those poor souls in southern CA need is a visit from "the decider."

I don't think the "economics" of the evacuations can be ignored. I'm referring to Brian Williams' comment that the evacuation from the fire zone is the largest movement of people since the Civil War - dwarfing Katrina. I am glad people are heeding advice and leaving the danger zone, and I want them and everyone to be safe. But, the fact is that these people have the means to escape. Most of them own their own vehicles and/or have easy access to transportation. Many of the people in New Orleans did not.

To be continued...
WPitW –

Ailes -- $23 billion stolen from taxpayers?  

You’re wrong, Countdown.  FBN knows ALL about business.

Limberger – Eeeuuw is right, but the damage is probably already done.  

Five minutes in this guy’s presence is like spending the afternoon in a hammock with The New York Post.

CIA – Fight terrorism with R&B?

Gotta be better than what we’re doing now.   Whatever that is.
#1 -- Why did you suppress your laughter?  To the right wing, "gay homosexual" is a REALLY clever example of tautology.  Ha.  Ha.  Ha.
Representative Stark's apology was a "sorry sight" indeed. For all of you more educated on the "inner workings" of Congress, what EXACTLY would a censure have done as far as Representative Stark's "Congressional duties"? Senator McCarthy was censured, for Pete's sake, for much much MUCH worse behavior, and "Tail Gunner Joe" stayed in the Senate. And, knowing what I know now about "Speaker" Pelosi, I'm not the least bit surprised that she scolded the honorable CA representative.

I think I have some of the venom behind what Valerie Plame Wilson went through figured out after her interview tonight. She is smart, she is well-spoken, and she is a WOMAN! Those are the 3 strikes for GWB and the Dictator-Wanna-Be string puller. Hells bells...another book to add to the reading list...
To quote the late wonderfully funny Madeline Kahn in BLAZING SADDLES, "Ah...I feel refweshed!" I am absolutely positively going to have to ask the Great Pumpkin, Tom Turkey, Santa Claus, or someone to give me Mr. Carlin's DVD set. It will be mine mine mine MINE MINE!!! I own the "Little David Years" CD set, but those of you who've seen him in concert know that there are PLENTY of visuals to enjoy that you just can't enjoy fully on a CD for obvious reasons. Those 6 minutes will probably be the hi-light of my next few weeks at least, so to whomever was responsible for him being with us tonight, thank you, thank you, thank you, and THANK YOU!!

Once again, Keith, you've been blessed by one of the greats, and there is no more deserving recipient than you.

Peace to us all...
Keith, I am a Bob and Ray lover also, and I have about 40 hrs on mp3 disk that were recoded off the radio in the 50s/60s. They include B&R chattering between bits. Commercial free. Happy to send you a copy. Roger Hall Reno Nv
5, maybe six times I posted something that quoted Mrs. Clinton, and none of them got posted.

I guess that the Media Matters staff of MSNBC just didn't want people to read the radical statments of one of their founders.
Let's have more from the professor who asks for Bush to provide some leadership in facing up to climate action requirements - Humboldt was all I heard. I didn't see his name posted.
What the heck. #1. Bill O'Reilly is running for President? Chuck Grassley is doing a Mitch Hedberg? Tribute? William Bennett was Outed? Well, George wouldn't call all that 'Crap', exactly. #2. Marie realized there wasn't even a little bit Country in what was happening. #3. It must be tough for her to envision all the people in foreign lands she talked innocently to, that may have died, just for giving her directions. #4. Remember, this is Bizarro World, not the United States of America. #5. Dubya sayin' it's Arnold's fault? (Maybe God told him it's cuz Arnold married a Democrat.)
Olbermann obviously Hates conservatives, Stark's comments really went over the line, and should have been the worst person last Thursday, but Olbermann's bosses at Media Matters, founded by Mrs. Clinton to get her the White House, wouldn't allow Libs to ever be listed on the worse person list.

BTW, How does complimenting a woman for doing a good job, get anyone on the worse person list?
I am a regular 'Countdown' viewer and usually am in general agreement with a lot of what it posited on the show. However, as a 3rd generation San Diegan, I didn't totally agree with the assessment on tonight's show regarding the fires in my county. While global warming may play a part in our current problems I think it has more to do with the fact that we have way too many people stuffed in a high-risk fire area. It's a lot like living in a river bed or flood plain. Not that many years ago the areas that are burning were thinly populated and the fires would come, some houses would (unfortunately) burn, but you didn't have massive numbers of people affected. I say again, there are too many people here. Note: if you are thinking about moving to Southern California, DON'T!
I am in the fire zone tonight.  Luckily, we were only threatened with evacuation and the amazing firefighters were able to keep the fire out of our beautiful Topanga Canyon.  In addition, hats off to Zev Yarovlosky, our county supervisor, and his office staff who have supported T-Cep (Topanga Community Emergency Preparedness) and provided the community with wonderful emergency preparedness books and training.  Boy, did it pay off!!!  Some time on Sunday, all of us in Malibu and Topanga lost cable.  I am a big fan of Countdown and other than losing the important information about the fire, this was my biggest regret (about losing television).  When so many other people here have lost so many things, this regret seems petty.  But I guess everything is relative and I hope to get cable back soon - if nothing else but to return to my routine of watching Keith every night.  Thank you to MSNBC for your website so that at least I could keep up on some of the fire coverage.  Keith - See you soon!!
The only thing I want from Bush is for him to send us our National Guard from Iraq. To leave this nation unprotected in times of disaster is criminal. I don't expect him to give California anything needed to get this state back on it's feet. Let's see without FEMA "real" help, insurances not giving homeowners what they paid for..these folks are doomed. There are still insurance claims being fought to this day after the Northridge earthquake.
Although I am not directly affected by the fires in San Diego County, except for the smoke in the air, I am incredibly impressed by how well our local officials, volunteer organisations, and the community have worked to ensure that those affected are cared for. We hear about some problems, but they seem rather minor considering the enormity of the fires. We are constantly being told that there are plenty of donations being made to the various evacuation sites which is wonderful. (We *are* going to need money for the local Red Cross and other local aid organisations when this is over.) I suspect that everyone has figured out, post-Katrina, that you need to take care of your own, so-to-speak, and if you manage to get federal or state assistance so much the better.
In fairness, however, I do think that our state and even the feds are, indeed, working to help out where they can. I can't figure out why Bush needs to come here. I guess he needs a new photo-op to show everyone how much he cares....yeah right.
Sorry guys, I refuse to bow to the altar of  "it's Bush's fault" for the magnitude of the yearly  Santa Anna fires, despite the ravings of Keith, a dilusional California Lt. Gov. and a greeny Humboldt professor. Anyone with an ounce of brains knows this happens like clockwork this time of year.  You would think a contingency of city,county and state officials would eventually recognize this phenomena and act accordingly.  Here's an idea-sometime in late summer conduct a CONTROLLED BURN of vegetation surrounding populous areas. No fuel no fire!  But I suppose this will never happen as it is far easier to blame the pres than to take responsibility for one's own inactions.
Thank you Keith and Crew!!
George Carlin ond others are absolutely RIGHT about you having the BEST new show on TV.!!
PAM..hope all is well friend..
Regarding Congressman Stark’s apology:

Our country’s involvement in this war will end with our withdrawal, at which time Iraq will fall into further chaos.  Whether that happens now, or in 10 years, the result will be the same.  The only difference is the number of American lives lost, and the number of new terrorists created out of our continued occupation.

Recently Congressman Stark was chastised for his comments about the war.  Republicans called for his censure, a few gutless Democrats agreed.  Many Democrats tried to distance themselves from Congressman Stark’s comments.  Ultimately Congressman Stark apologized.

If Democrats have to apologize for comments made in a debate about the war, how in the world do they ever think they will have the backbone necessary to do what is required to stop the war? They were elected in large part for their opposition to the war and the President, yet still they lack even the moxy needed for a spirited debate on the real issues.  

Until they stop funding this war, I will stop funding them.  I propose that the individuals unhappy with the lack of effectiveness and leadership from the Democratic Party, provide no more financial contributions.  I will not give money to a party who cannot be effective and pursue what is necessary for America.  I will not finance to a party that continues to fund a war that will ultimately end the same way.

Democrats may not be willing to do what is necessary, but I am.
It was bad enough seeing the view of the city through the windows during the first show in the new studio. I was actually checking fares to NYC and trying to come up with an excuse to make another trip out there. Tonight, K.O. does a quick check of the weather. Rub it in, why don't you?
Why is it that as soon as someone in Congress finally stands up and says to Bush what everyone in this country should be shouting 24/7 at the White House, not only do the current do-nothing Democrats fail to at last find their courage and stand behind the man, they actually demand an apology?  It's rude, bad form, bad manners?  People are dying so a very small group of men can feel important.  That's simply not a good enough reason.  Democrats - please wake up!  Where are you?  Don't condemn courage, applaud it.  Help us to be proud of Congressional Democrats again and of ourselves and our country.
Subject: Stark's Apology
 
Keith, you expressed an opinion that Stark's bowed to the right wing and apologized.

Fact: The House Majority Leader and Majority Whip and the House Speaker all declared Stark's diatribe inapropriate,and forced him to apologize (not the right wing). And rightfully so!
      They probably also reminded him that the current Democratic contolled House and Senate  approved the most recent funding of the war, not the Republicans. Stark did not even vote on that funding measure.
       Your opinion does not appear to be based on facts, but rather wishful bias.     Sincerely,

Registered Democrat for 38 years.
     
This does surprise me because you'll notice most of these folks aren't exactly from the 9th ward and the home aren't would call shanty town.What gives here Mr.Rove I thought you'd be passing out buttons and fire extinquishers your rich So. Cal. Political base is out here.Oh thats right they don't give 2-S deferments for cowards who are afraid of service to their Country like the heat any more where you might get hurt or break your your Blackberry. Im' sorry.They said FEMA was coming folks.Runs San Diego Chargers run,run Navy run,everyone run , FEMA is coming and its going to be worse than the fire.Look up in the sky it's a bird its a plane.Yep its a plane AF 1 and George is looking out the window at 25,000ft waving at us. Say hi kids say hi grandma its the President.
That poor San Diego reporter standing in front of his burning home, reporting the story. Heartbreaking. How ironic. I wish him well.
#5..I love George Carlin. He reminded me of Prof. Irwin Corey and Pat Paulsen, who were two of my favorite comedians. Grew up with George in the 60's. A smart man that George. Two compliments to Keith on Countdown..doesn't get better then that. Thank you, thank you for having George Carlin as a guest.

#4..not happy to see Rep. Pete Stark forced to apologize for his recent comments to Bush about SCHIP. He said it in the only place he could have said it without any action being taken against him. No one deserved an apology for what he believed and for what many people believe as well. Nancy Pelosi should have kept her mouth closed and get back to the people's business.

#3..Thank you for the Valerie Plame interview. No one had the right to trash her career and put her life in danger to get back at her husband. Everyone connected with outing this woman should have been prosecuted. Bush.."if there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know about it". and didn't he threaten to fire anyone who leaked?

WPitW..fabulous! Keith's look during the Rush story..too cute!

and see..Keith can check the weather out his windows. Ain't it gonna be grand watching the snow fall this winter? He looks genuinely happy and acts happy in his new digs.
KO, Like GC, go for it
President Bush declared a federal emergency and has dispersed resources to California, and has communicated to Cal officials to let him know what they need.  Marines are on the job.  

I coaching basketball, so I did not watch any news, but I have to ask what passing the buck OR BLAME is there.  Why is it necessary to take a tragedy such as this and turn it into a Bush bashing event.  I don't think that is necessary.

My prayers go out to those affected by the fires.  Stay safe!

Here's a link to another scary New York Times article on the State Department contractor debacle. Echoing the excellent point made earlier by jen, il, this article provides even more evidence of the incompetence of the CURRENT government to manage its affairs. The problem apparently extends far beyond the State Department and involves a lot more than mere accounting deficiencies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/24/washington/24contractor.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

The mis-, mal-, and non-feasance of the Bushies in properly managing its contractors transcends the issue of whether contracting -- in general -- is a valid way for government to do its business.  Personally?  I wouldn't trust these guys with a nickel as far as the corner to buy me a newspaper.  They'd probably come back with The New York Post and ask me for another hundred thousand dollars to cover their expenses.  

On the other hand, Countdown, you know that Roger Ailes would be proud.

Hey Countdown – Did you ever stop to think what Fox Business News’ new acronym (FBN) stands for?  (And it’s not “Fair and Balanced News.”)

Say it out loud, slowly – “Fibbin.”  

Altogether appropriate, don’t you think?  
Anomaly (Sent Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:16 PM)  Good morning! If you are a viewer of SOUTH PARK, and I have been since day 1, "gay homosexual" is also how Eric Cartman refers to them. I had a big 'ol cow when I heard that last night.
The change in the studio is just background stuff. But the change in programming over the last 2 days has been awesome! Thank you so much for leaving out the usual nonsense at the end and giving us Harry Potter and George Carlin. I actually watched til the end. Keep up the good work.
p.s. I didn't get the weather joke.
Roger Hall (Sent Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:35 PM) Good morning, Mr. Hall. How the heck did you get that? I've been trying to listen to clips of them from their website and can't seem to be able to get the audio "loaded." I don't know if it's tech error or operator error. I've never heard their stuff but would like to.
Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:48 PM)

Classic!!!!
Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:29 AM) There is NO WAY I could've stayed that composed if I was watching my house burn and couldn't do a *&$?@!'in thing about it. So so sad...
Great show last night.  Although I had to stay up and watch the late edition because I missed the earlier one (lots of homework help with the kids). It was like the teachers gave them extra homework just so I couldn't watch KO......or maybe it was because my oldest son (13) waited until two days before a major project is due before he started working on it.  At least he didn't wait until the night before.  The show was worth losing a little sleep.

Although many on this blog probably disagree, I'm glad rep. Stark issued an apology.  I agree with everything he said last week regarding Bush but it should not have been voiced on the house floor.  And it shows he's a far better man than all the neocon nutjobs.  When they say something they shouldn't they blame the democrats saying it was taking out of context (although we have the actual transcript).  For them, it's always easier to blame others than to take responsibilities for their own actions.  When was the last time a republican actually apoligized for their actions?  And Larry Craig apoligizing for pleading guilty when he was actually innocent doesn't count.

The wpitw was also great.  I think KO's staff enjoyed the "ewww" comment.
David Molinero (Sent Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:00 PM)

Even Bill Orally called Stark a patriot last night for issuing an apology for his remarks.  Has Bush ever apoligized to all the American families who have lost loved ones because of his lies?  Did Blackwater ever apoligize for killing Iraqi civilians?  Did the Administration ever apoligize for ruining Valerie Plame's career over a personal vendetta with her husband? Did Rush ever apoligize for his "phony soldiers" comments? (all he had to say was that he misspoke) Did the Administration ever apoligize and take responsibility for Katrina? Did Bush ever apoligize for his trampling of the Constitution?
David, don't you think there's a pattern here?  An apology is not showing that your weak it's taking responsibility for your actions.  My three kids understand that, why do republicans have a such difficult time with that concept?
"President Bush declared a federal emergency and has dispersed resources to California, and has communicated to Cal officials to let him know what they need.  Marines are on the job." Kevin of NJ

And next month Bush will anounce that there's been a boom in new home construction figures which obviously proves his economic "stategeries" are working.
Anomaly (Sent Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:24 AM)

Very nice!!!!!
Terry, Northbrook, Illinois (Sent Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:47 PM  Good morning, Terry. Last night's segment is on the COUNTDOWN main page now.
I hope our southern California bloggers are OK. Please check in with us!!
I saw on the news this morning where the director of the CDC was to appear before Congress to give a report on Climate change and how it would affect health and the spread of diseases.  But before her appearance she had to present her report to the President and his cronies for their review.  The report was edited by the WH from 14 pages down to 4 pages.   hmmmm.  What was in the other 10 pages?  When are neocons going to wake up and realize we have a dictatorship?  Isn't this what we blame Al Jazeera and dictaorships for?  They allow us to hear their own spin on things and propaganda but not true assessments.  It was the same as for Petraeus.  Bush didn't listen to any of his other Generals when they spoke out bet he expects Americans to believe Petraues because the WH scripted his dialogue with Congress.  How ridiculus?
"Olbermann obviously Hates conservatives, Stark's comments really went over the line, and should have been the worst person last Thursday, but Olbermann's bosses at Media Matters, founded by Mrs. Clinton to get her the White House, wouldn't allow Libs to ever be listed on the worse person list.

BTW, How does complimenting a woman for doing a good job, get anyone on the worse person list?"
David Molinero

I know you loyal bushies don't go much for that science stuff, but FYI that little rectangular box on your coffee table, the ones with numbers on it, it uses infrared technology to change the channel on your TV from something you don't like to something you do.

Or you can be a whiny little putz that's so neurotic and insecure that you insist that if there's something you don't like or understand, it must go away.

I don't understand you dolts that watch Keith every night when you loath him, you couldn't pay me to watch Rush, Tucker Carlson, or Billo. Life's too short.
Unnamed sources claim that Dubya will announce that all California Firefighters will immediately be sworn into the California National Guard and sent to Iraq, where they will pull from seven to fifteen tours of duty. Also, all displaced people with incomes under $500K, will be bused to the New Orleans Superdome.
leve OJ aloan.
Have you heard any news from Iraq in the last month? Since the Kurd oil deal, all hell has broken out on the Turkish border. The Shia and Sunni have left the table. Have you heard the American body count lately? I pray the southern Democrats suffer the same fate as Republican oil thieves in 08. Rest assured these Southern orbs of light will roll over like a lab terrifed of tarnishing their reputation for murdering colored folks for record oil profit. Write your corporate whores and demand they stop murdering our troops for Hunt and Halliburton Oil of Dubai. happy hunting!!
I agree with George Carlin, the first 35 minutes of your show is the best news show on TV -- consistently.  Occasionally we get an hour, like Monday night with Harry Potter and last night with George Carlin.  

As long as it's not going to be any of the Hollywood bimbos or Michael Musto, then I stay until the end.  

Thank you for giving us a ful hour show last night.  


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