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Countdown Thursday: Showdown with Iran

Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:59 PM by Countdown
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David Shuster in for Keith tonight...

In The Line of Firings:  Our fifth story on the Countdown: The Bush administration, once again is beating the drums of war... this time against Iran. And from the "way-back file," Hans Blix, the former chief weapons inspector of the United Nations -- remember him? -- he says President Bush is over-reacting. Meanwhile, President Putin of Russia... says the U-S is painting Iran into a corner. To paraphrase Yogi Berra... could this be Deja Vu all over again?

Sir Rudy of 9/11: Rudy Giuliani's private testimony before the September 11th Commission was not supposed to see the light of day until after the '08 election. Parts of it have leaked... and the words of Candidate Rudy versus Mayor Rudy don't have nearly the same bravado. Giuliani's real terror credentials...

ODDBALL: Dick Cheney caught sleeping, need we say more?

Fires Still Burning:  Hurricane Katrina hit on a Sunday night. The President flew over the devastated city Wednesday - on his way back to Washington DC. Tonight in our third story on the Countdown - the President has now learned, if not the actual lesson of that blunder, then the P-R lesson. The wildfires in Southern California started raging out of control on Sunday night. But this time - President Bush was on the ground today. More on that visit in a moment.

Don't Taze me Bro!  When it comes to taking a stand and raging against the machine, getting tasered by campus police during a John Kerry speech isn't exactly on a par with facing-down a tank in Tiananmen Square. Still, our number two story set off a 50-thousand volt controversy last month, spreading like wildfire on the internet, and triggering a flood of argument over free speech, police power and the right to act a bit nutty in public.  Kerry Sanders has the latest on the "bro" who refused to go quietly.


Down Goes Osmond:  Blame it on diet pills. Blame it on divorce. Even blame it on Rio. But for heaven's sake, Marie Osmond, don't blame your fainting spell on the California fires. In our number one story on the Countdown, the analysis of Ms. Osmond's falling-out continues full-throttle, with the oddest assessment coming from... Ms. Osmond.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash.
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Anomaly

I did reply to your questions, however it didn’t get posted.
In the event that it doesn’t get posted again, it’s on my site.
By clicking on my name, you will find it if you wish.

David Molinero (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:01 PM)

Good for Keith for getting to go to the game tonight, and many MANY thanks to David Shuster for pinch-hitting!

What Candidate Rudy said about the 9/11 attacks wasn't the same as what Mayor Rudy said about the 9/11 attacks to the committee? FLIP-FLOPPER!! I wonder if the DAILY SHOW will have a similar montage to what Governor Bush had to say about issues VS. what President Bush had to say about the state of the world?

And, DO NOT TELL ME THAT THE DICTATOR-WANNA-BE WAS "PRACTICING MEDITATION" DURING THE CABINET MEETING ABOUT THE FIRES!!! AAUUGGHH!!!!! *&^#@?!

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:11 PM)

History will prove that Bush was right on Iraq and a lot of other issues.  I want to ask you Liberals one question....Would the world be a safer place with Sadaam and his sons still alive and in power??  I will say this administration is probably right about Iran, despite all you Liberals who seem to live in a fantasy world.

Mark, AZ (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:24 PM)

#1. Unnamed sources claimed only hours before the fainting spell, Fabio told Marie he wouldn't convert to Mormonism. #2. I remember thinking tasering would be better than watching a Steven Seagall movie that was on TV one night. #3. If Crawford was burning, he'd what, call his AA group over to fight it? #4. He admitted he wet his pants twice, that's all. #5. I s'pose Dubya wants a Shah back in power, like it was in the Fifties. Sort of Neo-Nixonomics?

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:25 PM)

Keith, I kind of got the willies when it was announced tonight that you're going to interview Andrew "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" Meier on Tuesday night. I've got a BAD FEELING about this. I think John Kerry should've been more proactive at the University of Florida event, and the cops made a disruptive situation worse by their actions when they could've just escorted him out of the room. Having said this, all indications are pointing to Mr. Meier being a big 'ol publicity hound who staged this whole thing and bragged about it, and you interviewing him would play right into his hands.

I don't know; what I do know and have confidence in are your skills as an interviewer. I KNOW you won't let him get away with anything...PLEASE?!

Hope you had a great time at the game and all you faboo bloggers have a good evening.

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:25 PM)

What are the parameters for deciding what you post here? I see the same posters here every day, ranting over & over, but most of the times I try to post something it doesn't go up.

What's the deal??

Anonymous (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:54 PM)

"President" Bush's justification for going to war in Iraq and now Iran reminds me of "The boy who cried wolf".  Many (well some) thought the first time he cried wolf was justified enough to start a war in Iraq.  Now he is again crying wolf and many think he is trying to fool us to start a war in Iran.

Ren Rebuck, Herndon, PA (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:59 PM)

Thanks for mentioning Iran and the hawkishness of democratic presidential hopefull Hillary Clinton. Had it not been for Mike Gravel in the New Hampshire debate, this pertinent issue might never have seen the light. Unfortunately, NBC has chosen to exclude Gravel, who may not win but surely has made Hillary's stand on Iraq clear. Please interview him and help to make sure this very patriotic voice is heard. When I wrote NBC to complain, I was returned a form letter from Chuck.Todd@nbcuni.com that said, "Leaders and activists from both parties believe our requirements are very fair." I disagree and feel economic markers like who raises the most money, are antithetical to the fabric of democracy.  Learn what you can do to help at: http://Gravel2008.us

Melody San Francisco, Ca (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:22 PM)

Dirty Dick wasn't napping----   he was counting the zeros in $2.47 Trrrrrrrillion.  

Texashagfan (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:23 PM)

I was amused by Keith's little commercial spots.

Anyone else?

Brandon, IA (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:36 PM)

What the H*** is going on?  WHAT MORE CAN WE DO AND SAY TO END THIS MADNESS??? This administration must be stopped!!!  So frustrating!!  We thought we spoke in the last elections. Obviously, no one is listening or they just don't care.  Have their own agendas.  How much more can our military withstand?  Cousin just re-enlisted.  Feels it is his duty to protect our country. This is his third tour - all of us worried he won't make it back.  This IS deja vu all over again.  CONGRESS - GET SOME ***** AND STOP THESE CRIMINALS.  God Bless America, our troops and their families.  

Kathy, Chicago (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:43 PM)

Unfortunately this is the same ole road we have already been down, hopefully people will not react to the lies like they did the first time and don't let Bush and his buddies destroy the world, before they are out of office. We can only hope that the next administration will fix our standing in the world.

Cindy Kahnk Jerome Idaho (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:48 PM)

Oddball -- Hey Countdown -- My boss is tougher than Cheney.  He never sleeps.  He keeps that big lidless eye going and going and going,  just like the energizer bunny, only without the bunny.  

Like Bigheaded Billo, he's looking out for us.

The Witch King of Angmar (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:51 PM)

Nanalinda, San Antonio, TX (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:37 PM

Cynical?  About the Compassionate Conseervative in Chief making a promise that the government will help people?  

I'm shocked.  So shocked.

Nanalinda, I have to ask -- are you saying that  Mr. Bush a "false" True Liberal?  It's getting hard to tell them all apart without a scorecard.

Anomaly (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:04 PM)

Is Rudy Giuliani “padding” his resume?  No.  The only thing Rudy pads is … (never mind).  

Is it just me, Countdown, or is it getting warmer around here every day?

Anomaly (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:22 PM)

Well, I confess I didn’t see the Marie Osmond segment, but it does provide an opportunity for me to make a case for having Clive Owen on the show.

See, Countdown, he was just in this movie with Cate Blanchett where he plays this “political pirate” – but from the 16th Century.  You know, kind of an independent contractor, helping to protect the queen and defeat England’s enemies.

Like Blackwater, really, complete with an invincible armada.  

I’ll bet he has some insights to share.  And if not, who cares?  Neither does Britney.

Still Waiting for Clive, George, and Ewan (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:34 PM)

I guess that my answer to John Doe, and Anomaly just couldn't get past the Jacobin minded moderator.

But if you click on my name, you'd find what I posted on myspace, as Posting that didn’t make Kieth Olbermann’s Blog.

David Molinero (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:42 PM)

David Molinero (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:01 PM)

I read your response, and I don’t take issue with that much of what you say. We seem to be generally in line on the worship issue.  It sounds like you would agree that we don’t want anyone else imposing their morality on us.  I agree with you that personal responsibility is a good thing, but again, I try not to impose my own standards on others.

I definitely disagree, however, that the “modern Jacobins” are the ones interested in religious repression.  I see no evidence whatsoever for that and plenty of evidence to the contrary.  

Nice picture, by the way.  

Anomaly (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:58 PM)

I will ask this question again...Would the world be a safer place with Sadaam and his sons still alive and in power??  

Mark, AZ (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 12:24 AM)

If you loved Bush/Cheney, you'll love Rudy.  The more information that comes out about him, the less likely it will be that people will vote for him.  

HE DID NOTHING PRIOR TO 9/11 and barely anything afterwards.  

My late father in law used to say that you can easily judge a person by watching how children and dogs react around him.  We know that his children dislike him, has any one seen him with any dogs?  

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 12:37 AM)

Brandon, IA Thursday 10:36 PM..Keith did his little commercial spots the last time David Schuster filled in for him when Keith was busy moving to new digs. It was really amusing that time too. It's to keep us happy knowing we miss him when he's not on Countdown.

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 12:41 AM)

I've decided El Presidente is a big trouble maker. Just can't play nice in the sandbox. Gotta be a bully. I'll bet he was like this as a kid. Now we're all suffering for it. Why, oh why didn't his parents have the guts to give him a swift kick in the a**. I guess they thought he perfect..

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 12:48 AM)

Nanalinda was right about bully Bush..

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 12:48 AM)

"I KNOW you won't let him (Andrew Meier) get away with anything...PLEASE?!"
-Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:25 PM)

Like what? I thought what Andrew did at Kerry's appearance was brilliant (except for getting tased). How many people have the knowledge and/or nerve to ask the really hard questions, such as Skull and Bones inquiries? Someone needs to confront these elites on their "secret society" nonsense, including members of the CFR and the Bilderberg Group (Bill/Hillary Clinton!).

Personally, I want Andrew Meier to stir the pot once again. Maybe drop some "investigate 9/11" lines in there. Something to wake the people up, like what happened to the very ignorant Bill Maher this past weekend (also brilliant).

James, NYC, NY (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 12:49 AM)

Who writes the copy when you're gone, Keith?  I didn't expect to see a sabre-rattling, anti-Iran, pro-war story. That's tantamount to being pro-Bush, and we know you don't want to give that impression.  So why have a host who does?

I wish you would have one of the ladies fill in for you when you're going to be off, Keith.  Shuster is a nice young man, but he is too robotic, and he can't project his voice like you or the other three ladies I've seen hosting Countdown.  Well, he DID refer to Bush as "Mr. Bush", just like you.  That's something, I suppose.  But not enough.

R. NorCal (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 1:10 AM)

Mark, AZ (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:24 PM)

I beg to disagree.  We badly broke Iraq, and we've done little right to fix it.

We've also badly broken our military and it'll be years before it's fixed.  

There is a "insanity definition", usually attributed to Einstein which goes as follows:  

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity.  

If you are using the above definition, then Bush/Cheney qualify as insane.

Have a good day.  

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 1:22 AM)

Dear Countdown staff.  

Tonight's #1 was the worst #1 story of the week, and yet it was 1000 times better than any previous Bimbo/Twit/Musto story. I stayed until the end.  

Thank you for the improvements -- we you loyal, intelligent viewers appreciate not having that intelligence insulted.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 1:25 AM)

This is something I didn't need to read about nor anyone else affected by these fires.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/W/WILDFIRES_GROUNDED_AIRCRAFT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-10-25-23-04-19

If this site isn't correct, I'll correct it later..worth reading.

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 1:28 AM)

OFF SUBJECT

Bush's speech on Cuba, to ordinary Cubans, he says:

"You have the power to shape your own destiny."

“You can bring about a future where your leaders answer to you."

"The dissidents of today will be the nation's leaders."  

"Now is the time to stand with the Cuban people as they stand up for their liberty".

Now I ask you, can you imagine what would happen to those Americans who oppose the War with Iraq, the majority of americans, if they took those same words and ideals to heart, and acted on them here in this country, the land of liberty, freedom and "we the people" ???

One word, RENDITION !!!

Pray for God's Kingdom.

Goodspeed (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 2:15 AM)

I don't know what to say. I'm sad that Sue said she gives up. Why aren't her posts getting through? She has had this problem before and has left. We've all had our turn at lost blogs. NEWSHOLE..why is this happening? Where are those lost posts. Because of these lost posts, we have lost some terrific people. THIS PROBLEM HAS TO BE SOLVED.

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 2:33 AM)

Bushie Boy over reacting?  No way!  They've been talking about mini-nukes for Iran for a year and a half.  The drum beat is just getting LOUDER.

The nuking has already been decided by our decider w/o checks, balances or his retired BRAIN.

Talvenada, Phila., Penna. (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 2:43 AM)

KEITH,

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YOU ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A KID WHO CRAVED ATTENTION AND DESIRED PUBLICITY BE ON YOUR SHOW? SHAME ON YOU!!!!

PLEASE DO NOT STOOOOOOOP  SOO LOW...
YOU ALWAYS HAVE MY SUPPORT BUT NOT FOR THIS..
END IDIOTS FINDING WAYS TO SOAK THEIR 15 MINUTES...
DO AMERICA A FAVOR AND EXILE THIS JERK BACK TO HIS MOTHERLAND!!!!

BOB, clevland, ohio (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 3:58 AM)

BOOO! Boo to your writing contributer Krista.
Stop saying the cops were out of hand and should have escorted...THEY TRIED!!!
Try being there...Try reading the FDLE finding..Try finding A COMPLETE TAPE of the actual event before you go liberal minded.
the cops did their job..LEAVE THEM ALONE!!

and what the heck are you doing Countdown by having a guy who started this all for a notch on his resume?
you are feeding in to a media hungry moron!!!!!

anonymous (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 4:04 AM)

History will prove that Bush was right on Iraq and a lot of other issues.  I want to ask you Liberals one question....Would the world be a safer place with Sadaam and his sons still alive and in power??  I will say this administration is probably right about Iran, despite all you Liberals who seem to live in a fantasy world.
Mark, AZ (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:24 PM)

The time to have gotten Sadaam and his offspring was in Father Bush's time in office when it was a legitimate problem with real justification.  Now is not a time to go into manufactured wars!  And in the presidency as with everything else Timing is everything.

KC (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 5:29 AM)

The circular rationalization that the world is a safer place is an infinite argument. Would the world be a safer place with a regime change in China? Maybe. How about North Korea? Maybe. Russia? Maybe. The facts are that we are now bogged down in two third world countries for more than five years with costs running 200 billion a year, gas approaching $3 a gallon again and Bush is threatening a third war when there is no resolution in sight for the two we are already fighting. The interest on the national debt alone is now 350 billion. When Bush took office the debt was a little over 5 trillion dollars and we were starting to run surpluses for the first time in decades.Things were so good the treasury had stopped selling 30 year t-bills. When he leaves office, the debt will be about 9.3 trillion. Anyone who considers him a good leader just hasn't been paying attention or has a really low set of standards.

gator,stuart,fl (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 8:12 AM)

"And, DO NOT TELL ME THAT THE DICTATOR-WANNA-BE WAS "PRACTICING MEDITATION" DURING THE CABINET MEETING ABOUT THE FIRES!!! AAUUGGHH!!!!! *&^#@?!"
Krista Swisher

The man is old and has had fourteen heart attacks, why begrudge him a nap? I'm sure he was having a sweet innocent dream about quail hunting in a pastoral field with his favorite lawyer, or using the US Constitution to start a fire that would burn down George Clooney, Ophrah, Susan Sarandon, and Sean Penn's house.

"Oh wouldn't it be loverly...."



Professer Henry Higgins,London, England (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 8:27 AM)

Laura, I do have a crystal ball and Hillary is gonna lose HUGE.
Mark, AZ (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:45 PM)

Hey Mark – What a coincidence.  MY boss has a big crystal ball, too.  I think his crystal ball predicts he will defeat that upstart “king” and plunge Middle Earth into never-ending darkness.  I can’t be completely sure, though, because I’ve been wasting a lot of MY time chasing some hobbits around.  

Those pesky hobbits … such a nuisance.  Maybe I’ll just ignore them.  They’re too small to do much harm.

The Witch King of Angmar (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 8:45 AM)

Mark, AZ (Sent Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:24 PM) Good morning, Mark. Sadaam was an evil, cruel, twisted excuse for a human being, and his sons were setting the pattern to follow in his footsteps. NO ONE DOUBTS THAT, and you will find NO ONE HERE ON THIS FORUM who will say otherwise. HOWEVER, he had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ATTACKS ON 9/11 and viewed BinLaden and AlQuaida as just as big a threat to his safety and authority as anyone else. You, like most others, are desperately attempting to keep up this link between him and the "war on terror" that isn't there. Also, 3700+ American families would still have their loved ones in their lives (they don't view it as the "small price" that Rep. Boehner apparently does), thousands of other American families would have their loved ones in their lives without missing limbs and horrid memories, and the Iraqis would still have clean water and electricity on a daily basis - not to mention the untold thousands of Iraqi civilians who've lost their lives that we'll probably never really know about.

The world is a better place without Sadaam and his sons; these days, as much as we're hated in the world, I'm not so sure about safer.

Have a good day and a good weekend.

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 8:57 AM)

The Hillary story was a bit misleading.  Hillary is not for expanding the war in Iraq but just because she doesn't believe in an immediate pullout, people want to imply that she supports W.  The Iraq war was a huge mistake but the realistic course of action is to pull out the troops in a measured manner so as not to leave Iraq in turmoil and as a base for Al-Qaeda.  

Give Hillary credit for trying to be realistic about W's Mistake rather than resorting to crowd-pleasing slogans.  I wish someone would ask Obama for specifics on his plan to handle Al Qaeda.

Bill, Louisville, KY (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 9:01 AM)

"History will prove that Bush was right on Iraq and a lot of other issues.  I want to ask you Liberals one question....Would the world be a safer place with Sadaam and his sons still alive and in power??  I will say this administration is probably right about Iran, despite all you Liberals who seem to live in a fantasy world."
Mark, AZ


Your are a idiot with a idiotic viewpoint. Just what kind of danger did Saddam & Sons pose to you or anybody else in the USA pre or post 9-11? Do you think they going to use their nuclear weapons on us? Or their weapons of mass destruction? Or let Al Queda in their country? Give us cooties?

We're protected by the same thing this country has been protected by for over two hundred years, they're called oceans. If you believe the same guys that couldn't rescue people in Louisiana for over five days, or who didn't see any problem with treating intelligence from a guy named "Curveball" as gospel, have kept you safe, then you are not just stupid, you are monumentally stupid. Kind of like Bush, a guy who thought there were 30 days in February (true) and who asked the President of Brazil if they "had black people there?"(unbelievable, but true)

You're obviously stupid and ignorant, and I'm sure you're mind is way too simple and unimaginative to figure out all the good things that ten billion dollars a week could accomplish in our own country, instead of being wasted trying to referee a civil war and going straight into the pockets of the military-industrial complex and wingnut politicians.

Not to mention almost four thousand American lives.


Scott Copeland, Naples Fl (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 9:09 AM)

There are 452 days until the end of this regime on 1/20/2009
There are 437 days until the end of this Congress on 1/5/2009
There are 375 days until election day -- 11/4/2008

THE PRIMARIES HAVEN'T BEEN HELD YET FOLKS -- Evaluate ALL the candidates and think wisely before you vote.
And we are counting down.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 9:18 AM)

Happy Birthday, Hirrary!

Round-eyed blond goddess turn sixty today. You light-wingers remember to respect your elders!

A Chinese Dishwasher, Chinatown (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 9:39 AM)

Mark in Arizona asked: "I want to ask you Liberals one question....Would the world be a safer place with Sadaam and his sons still alive and in power??"

Well, Mark the answer is... yes.

Sadaam ruled with an iron hand, and now we know why; to keep all of the disparate factions of his country "in line", and avoid the civil war which is now raging.  Sadaam was certainly a cruel and sadistic sonuvabitch, but Iraq-- and the whole Middke East-- was far more stable with Hussein in power.

Flipkid, Blue State (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 9:42 AM)

Kathy, Chicago . And to which criminals to you refer ?
Former Mayor Daley ? Former President Clinton ? Former Rep. Dan Rostenkowski ? Too many liberal criminals to choose from !

Larry Charleston, SC (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 10:08 AM)

Mark from AZ, what are you smoking?  History will record George the Third as the worst president in American history, surpassing the legend of James Buchanan, from my hometown.  This guy is spending our country into oblivion.  Always remember, that it was economics--horrendous monetary policy--and an endless war in Afghanistan that ultimately took down the Soviet Union, and it looks like we are going down the same path.  I'm prepared to go with the war on terror if the administration can step up to the plate and pay for it NOW.  I refuse, however, to be okay with passing the bill on to my children and grandchildren.  When the history of this nation-state is recorded, the end will be attributed to George the Third and his foolhardy spending on a war with no end.  
Let us eat cake?
www.freddsjourney.vox.com

Freddhead, Lancaster, PA (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 10:51 AM)

Mark AZ- Yes. He had no weapons of mass distruction and was completly contained.  There was no Al Qeada in Iraq and he kept Iran in check.

jen,il (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 10:57 AM)

I suppose it's time for me to give my take on Governor Arnie's performance through this tragic event in CA.

I've been watching him for a while now. At least for the last several months. While in the past he has been indecisive about many matters, he has come a long way. I don't know if it's been that he's seen the light or if Maria's influence has finally rubbed of on him. Maybe a little of both. I was particulary impressed a month of so ago when he attended the yearly Republican gathering in Palm Springs. I mentioned it at the time. He tried getting his party to come more to the center, not only for the good of the party, the coming election, but in general so that people could see the party in a different light. He made sense, but the party basically told him to shove it. They felt he was trying to get them to compromise their religious beliefs, and their personal values. At least he tried.

During yesterdays news conference, I really felt he was sincere in wanting this state to get through this event. One thing El Presidente said that I agreed with..did I say that! I agreed with Bush..well yes. He said because of the leadership in this state things will get done. I know he must have meant a dig at Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco in LA after Katrina, but whatever the reason, he got it right about the leadership in this state. Arnie wasted no time getting mobilized and asking for help. He wasted no time getting to the people to reassure them help would be on the way. This is impressive. Yes, he has come a long way. Being a Republican Governor, it even surprises me that I find myself standing behind him. I never didn't like him, just was annoyed with him. I am glad he has come up the plate and is doing what is right for California. I am also surprised that I agreed with one thing El Presidente said yesterday. Keep up the good work Sr. Governor.

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 10:58 AM)

It is 8:00 AM..the weather is very cool, our marine layer is in place, fog in some places. A very good thing to get these fires under control. The humidity is climbing, also very good. Still alot of work getting these fires quelled, but the weather is cooperating..it's about time.

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 11:01 AM)

One way to know if Global Warming is a good thing or bad, would be to check the historical record to see if mankind had lived on a warmer planet. Had man been around when the Earth was as much as 5 degrees F warmer then today? If so, did mankind do well?
Was disease more? Or Less?
Did crops do better? Or worse?
Was there more rain? Or less?
Did man live longer? Or shorter?
How far back would one have to look to find out? Are there written records of the last time that the Earth was warmer then today?

http://www.civilization.ca/cmc/archeo/oracles/norse/40.htm

http://www.stanford.edu/~moore/history_health.html

This is history, something that could be looked at by anybody, checked, and double checked. Not something that is the results of computer models that can be manipulated by adjusting a variable here or there to get the desired results.

Believer in looking forward by looking back. (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 11:03 AM)

The reward for the arrest of the arsonist or arsonists responsible for the Santiago Canyon fire is up to $250,000! Wow, someone out there knows something and needs to come forward. This person/persons need to be caught..ASAP.

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Friday, October 26, 2007 11:05 AM)



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