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Countdown Tuesday: Petulance Revisited

Posted: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:59 PM by Countdown
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In The Line of FiringsWho knew -- when he pushed the "No Child Left Behind Act" -- that President George W. Bush was really looking out... for himself. Our fifth story on the Countdown: the President's petulance against Congress, Democrats, and anybody else he sees thwarting his "id," devolving from last week's buffoonish door-slamming, to a level meriting the use of the word "tantrum." He has accused his critics -- of wasting his time.

You Say Dubai, I say HelloRudy Giuliani's travel schedule seems to finally be getting to him. He tells voters in New Hampshire that the Democrats will invite Osama Bin Laden to their inaugural parties. Huh? And wait until you hear what one of his top foreign policy advisers is saying about those who aren't jumping on the attack Irahn bandwagon. That and what's at stake in tonight's democratic candidate presidential debate.

ODDBALL: A streaker at Wembley, high heel racing, and a deer on the loose in Cincinnatti

The GOP HorseraceSecretary of State Condoleezza Rice's spokesman today denied that her department gave Blackwater mercenaries immunity from prosecution for their deadly shooting of 17 Iraqis last month. But in our number-three story tonight, the spokesman did not deny yesterday's story from the Associated Press...

TiVo Alert! And breaking news of sorts to begin our nightly round-up of celebrity and entertainment stuff... A judge's decision about Britney Spears' kids... presumably made without consideration of the newest publicity photos of her, appearing to seduce a priest.

WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD: Nancy Nord, Billo, and Norman Podhoretz

The Littlest IdolJust minutes now, until the Democratic Presidential Debate from Drexel University in Philadelphia... here on MSNBC... Moderated by our own Brian Williams, who will be joined by Tim Russert. It will be the seventh Democratic gathering of this campaign season to use the term "Debate". It comes in the wake of a day of rare unison from the top-tier Democrats... in opposing the confirmation of the Attorney General-nominee... Judge Michael Mukasey... Two days after a second-tier candidate had done the same.

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#5 – Mr. Bush’s bullying is working to some extent.  – Dana Milbank

Once again, I have to question what Mr. Milbank had for lunch.  Must have been those mushrooms again.  Mr. Bush’s bullying of Congress has worked to the FULLEST extent.

And with all due respect, Ms. Pelosi missed the point.  This war is not just a waste of money.  It’s a waste of lives.  Mostly a waste of lives.

But it’s good to know that Countdown is not the Gryphon or the Mock Turtle.  You must have skipped the mushrooms.
#4 – For reasons known only to himself, Rudy Giuliani tries to marry himself to the Iraq war?

Aw, come on, Countdown, do you have to make it so EASY?  

WPitW – Using the term man “loosely” when describing Billo?  

Aw, come on, Countdown, do you have to make it so EASY?

#3 – Catch 22 as a “how to” manual?  Put it right up there on the shelf with Nineteen Eighty Four.  There’s always another war around the corner.  Places to go.  Dictators to vanquish.  Rights to be trampled.  Profit to be made.  

Of course, I personally favor A Separate Peace.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.
# 4 – Hey Countdown -- Why would you be surprised that ghosts are more popular than George W. Bush?  I’m a ghost, you know.  And you have to admit I’m a MUCH more engaging character than Mr. Bush.  

But he and I do have one thing in common.  When each of us looks in the mirror, we see nothing looking back.
Hey, everyone. Another fairly craptacular day was "enjoyed" (??) by me today, but my brain cells are in better shape, so let's get this proverbial show on the road!

I absolutely remember using "tantrum" before around here in describing GWB's latest behavior. And, Keith, you can try explaining SCHIP to the brick wall brains until you're as purple as the tie you wore tonight, but they ain't gettin' it, and they ain't gonna listen. And, I'm dyin' to know where the REAL Nancy Pelosi is because, wow, was that really her?!

I LOVED Arianna's "...the soul of a thug..." comment tonight about Mayor Rudy! And, Keith, you may feel alone in the media, but you've got plenty of people here who have your back, so you're not really alone!
Whoever penned the caption "Mercenary Position" deserves a medal! I really gotta get my mind out of the gutter occasionally. ;)

And, I guess we can add not knowing what "immunity" means to Condi's expertise?! Extreme ugh...if she's headed back to Stanford again to be provost, I pity Stanford.

RIP Robert Goulet...he was absolutely hilarious in NAKED GUN 33 1/3 - must viewing for you fans out there of silly movies.
I was the sullen one ;)

Scott Copeland,Naples Fl (Sent Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:51 PM)

Not to worry, Scott.  Real women love sullen. Not to mention Calvin Klein.  But I suppose the Secret Agent Orange stories are classified, right?  Too bad.  

I don't know if I'll make it through the entire Democratic debate because I have to get up before the Halloween chickens tomorrow, but I'll do my best.

Finally, only slightly off-topic because this news concerns the spoiled brat's boss, on Thursday, I'm going to need as many good thoughts from those who I know have my back because a foul pestulance will descend upon Indianapolis Thursday. The sky will darken, the moon will turn blood red, black rain will fall, etc. because THE DICTATOR WANNA BE WILL BE IN MY TOWN!!!!!

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071030/LOCAL/71030019

Man, now I'm gonna have to go downtown to do some kind of cleansing repetance ritual to make our city right with the universe again; I HATE to go downtown. Although, you think if I went to my local sporting goods store, bought a duck call, wrapped it in the Constitution, and left it for him with the American Legion boys, you think they'd give it to him?

Hmmm....

"Late breaking" debate update!!!!! Dennis just said the "I" word!!!!!! Y'all think we'll hear that from anyone else?!

Sweet dreams, everyone.
Dennis just "called out" the media for their part in the run-up to Iraq. So much for him getting much "exposure."
What we're seeing is a narcissist reacting to someone telling him "No." Dubya has had four years with a Congress that would (and did) give him everything he wanted with no questions asked. If the Republicans still controlled Congress, anyone who even suggested the Blackwater shooting (and the ludicrous immunity deal State cut with them) should be investigated would have gotten ten times the lambasting Pete Stark got. Now people are telling him "No", they're telling him he was wrong, they're demanding to actually make "checks and balances" a real thing, and the spoiled brat is having a tantrum. Slamming doors is just the beginning, folks, especially if the second SCHIP vote actually goes through.
Bandit on the Run

"Former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld fled France today [Oct 29] fearing arrest over charges of "ordering and authorizing" torture of detainees at both the American-run Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and the U.S. military's detainment facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba"
Scott Copeland,Naples Fl (Sent Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:41 PM)

Scott – LOL -- Am I mistaken, or did you just expose your own "secret agent" identity?  (6:51 pm post)  

Can I get an exclusive on that?  I've always dreamed of being a real journalist -- like Robert Nowak.

Not to mention the chance to meet a Calvin Klein model.
Here in Eugene, Oregon, we are without MSNBC and Keith Olbermann;
ComCast has removed it from our listings and we have to get a box in order to view it. Bah!
Please forgive Larry.  He's just a lonely old man who doesn't have a mother.
Liberals have a preternatural gift for always striking a position on the side of treason. Everyone says liberals love America, too. No, they don’t. From Truman to Kennedy to Carter to Clinton, America has contained, appeased, and retreated, often sacrificing America’s best interests and security. With the fate of the world in the balance, liberals should leave the defense of the nation to conservatives.
Junebug - I will take the high road. I admit that I have absolutely no idea where you are coming from and I forgive U 4 all the negativity and unwanted preaching that U tried 2 bestow upon me. Does that appease U? If not, then read the Limbaugh Letter on his blog. You can identify. Again, I'm sorry if U wasted my time.
"Rudy Guiliani only says three things in a sentence, a noun, a verb, and 9/11!"

I'm in mad hearts with Joe Biden right now.  MAD hearts, y'all.
olbermann #16 oriley #1  a little jealous ?
Arianna Huffington blames the MSM for not questioning Rudy Giuliani's rhetoric, and KO says, "I'm doing what I can, but, apparently, I'm alone out here." Keep at it. Despite the MSNBC promos hyping KO's opinions, some of us happen to think his real talent lies in asking the right questions. After all, adopting that critical stance is a necessary precursor to generating informed opinions.
#3 -- Regarding “limited” immunity for the Blackwater guards –

I just had a brain flash.  Please correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Congress give Oliver North the same kind of “limited” (use) immunity for his testimony in the Iran Contra matter?  And didn’t that immunity eventually slop over into his criminal trial and cause his conviction to be overturned?

Look out, Countdown, these “dumb as a fox” Bushies are about to job us again.
Since the U.S. has approximately 186,000 "private contractors" in Iraq and 130,000 troops, I believe that Congress should allow Bush only a maximum of one-third of the amount he is asking for and authorize it with the proviso that it is for the use of the troops ONLY.  Thus, he will have to either end this war for profit or institute the draft.  Bush has used "private contractors" at outrageous pay compared to our troops (or just about anyone else who isn't a CEO).  If you want to go about invading countries, you'd better have an army.  We simply cannot afford $100,000 a year soldiers, but Bush continues to employ them to avoid a draft on his "watch."  It's time to put a stop to it.
#5. Not very "presidential" was he? #4,Rudy, you're killing me, you're an embarassment to NY. Be afraid, be very afraid, well that's what Rudy wants, anyway. Is this what we're gonna get for the next 13 months?
Really enjoyed the debate tonight.  I thought Joe Biden did an exceptional job, when they got around to letting him speak. His comments about Rudy - "a noun, a verb and 911 in every sentence" and being the least qualified person running for president since GWB were spot on.  And with that, the repubs will certainly put him on the ballot.
Pretty interesting debate,my quick thoughts:

Hillary-oughta fire immediately whoever gave her those Romulan eyebrows,yikes! I thought she held her own untill the end, I predict we'll be hearing a lot about illegal immigrants and drivers license over the next few days from the loyal bushies.

Obama-I thought he showed a lot of poise and class, but is still a little passive for my taste. He did score points at the end.

Edwards-I liked a lot of what he said, but he also came off as smirky mclaywer guy a lot. We've had enough smirking to last a lifetime last six years. Lost the youth vote by coming out as pro-Hedge Fund and anti-pot decriminalization.

Biden-as always, the total pro. Maybe too much the pro. Pretty passive this go debate.

Kusenich-is embracing the whole "I seem a little whacky, but people love me and I got a hot wife" thing, and he's gonna say anything he pleases. Might do better than most think on his Impeach Bush Now/I saw a UFO! platform.

Dodd-"Hey, you kids get off my yard". Most unlikely guy to advocate decriminalization of marijuana. Most surreal moment was grandfatherly Dodd defending pot while youthful John Edwards was against it.

Richardson-nice guy who doesn't have a snowballs chance in Hell. Seems a little out-of-touch.
Re: Giuliani's comment about Clinton and Obama

I'm unable to get an email through to your email address, so I'm posting here.

During the 8pm broadcast, I saw the Giuliani clip you ran, and I think the AP and everyone else got the transcript wrong. Please go back and check it:
It was very clear to me that Giuliani said  "and we’ll invite Ahmadinejad to the White House, we’ll invite ASSAD to the White House..."

He did not say "Osama". It was an apparent reference to Obama's and Clinton's answers to a question at the July 23 Democratic Debate in Charleston, SC. Obama said he would meet with leaders like Assad and Ahmadinejad, with some caveats, but no solid preconditions. Clinton said she would not meet with them in her first year, under any circumstances.

Thanks,
Andrew Long
Oh by the way: The Petulant of the United States--good.
When Bush Comes to Shove--brilliance.

Thanks, as always, for doing what you do.
AL
I think he needs to make a deal with Hillary. Drop out of the race and support her in exchange for the VP spot. He could use this position to grow and to mature and walk into the Presidency at a later time.
C A, Tuscaloosa, AL (Sent Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:07 PM)

I disagree that Senator Obama should drop out and make a deal for the VP slot.  In 2004, I preferred Edwards over Kerry and voted for Edwards in the California primary. I also voted for Edwards because I felt he would make a great VP, wanted him on the ticket and wanted my opinion voiced. I knew Kerry had the nomination.

Edwards ran a strong presidential campaign and did well in the primaries, which is the reason Kerry chose him as his running mate in my opinion.  If Obama were to drop out now, first of all, I don't think Clinton would make a "deal" with him because she wouldn't know how the country truly feels about Obama.  Clinton needs to analyze the primaries, just as Kerry did with Edwards. Kerry “supposedly” lost to George W. Bush by just one state. However, Kerry was running against an incumbent and a “war time” president. George W. Bush should have been ashamed of the 2004 election; instead, in typical arrogant fashion, he stated, “the people have spoken, I’ve been given a great deal of political capital and I plan on spending it.”  What a jerk!!

Several of my friends and one of my sisters voted for Edwards for the same reasons I did.  We do need to know how the country feels and the voting booth tells the whole story.  This election is SO important, probably the most important of my lifetime.

Well, just my two cents; I hope Obama does do well and also hope Clinton does choose him as her running mate.  I say this because as of right now, I am 100% convinced Clinton will be the Democratic nominee!!

PEACE FRIEND!!
whatdafawk!!??
This shameless p.Resident oughta be... _ _ _ _ _ _ and _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (fill in the blanks!)
Woulda, shoulda, but - words too harsh even for TNO.
parte tres -
Hells bells! gwb has'em right where he wants'em.
Blackwater - AKA - military, militia, acting in  militant fashion!
Oh, it's ok, their 'friends of the p.Resident!'  Fear not America, we're in the hands of UNtrustworthy, UNscrupulous, UNcaring, UNelected, UNinvestigated, UNimpeached, UNwarranted spying, leadership!
you know the democrats are finally serious when they say
"The War has wasted the lives of the troops"
not just wasting money
Top 10 Things Overheard During Dick Cheney's Hunting Trip..from David Letterman show Tuesday..

10..Has everyone updated their will?

9. The crisp air is giving me goosebumps, no wait,
   it's another heart attack.

8. This can't end well.

7. My pacemaker also makes bird calls.

6. I want the quail taken alive..let's find out what
   the son of a bitch knows.

5. Bush was supposed to come, but his father got him
   out of it.

4. Condi, grab a shotgun and go get yourself a man.

3. No number 3..writers making picket signs for
   upcoming strike.

2. "you shoot one old guy in the face, avoid talking
   to authorities, delay taking a blood-alcohol
   test and you're labeled a bad guy"

1. "Duck!"
Off topic..Krista..I think this impending writer's strike is going to have an effect on some of our favorite programs..Family Guy and the Simpsons. Alex Bornstein was interviewed on the local morning show and said her writing and the others will affect the Family Guy and so many others. Last time they had a strike, it lasted for quite a while. We were at the mercy of reruns.
Hey Countdown – In honor of Halloween, instead of Best Person in the World, I think you should have nominees for Biggest Pumpkin Head.  How easy would this be?  You wouldn’t have to do any research, and I’m sure you’ve already got appropriate photos.  Add a few graphics (although frankly they might be superfluous), and you’re set.

My own nominees, in no particular order:

1.  Bighead Billo.  2.  Tautological Dick Cheney.  3.  Rush Limberger.

Talk about hyperbole.
#1. The Tiers of a Clown, when no one's a round. #2. To Britter, a Judge and a Priest are pretty much the same thing. They both speak Latin and wear thongs under their robes, right? #3. No-Bid Truths and Lies, from the No-Bid Champs of America. #4. He meant Oksana Baiul...whoops, uh,...Barack Obama! #5. Well, Child Psychologists would call it 'Dementia Praecox', but in a President? Let's just call it 'the Downward Spiral'. Rather Nixonian, don'cha think?
As these debates go on, they are starting to get very stupid indeed.  We are not learning anything new from the candidates and they all sound like broken records, Democrats and Republicans alike.  I think it will be very hard to pick a person that will lead this country and make all of us proud again.  
As far as GWB on "No Child Left Behind", he was left
far behind a long time ago,  too bad someone went back to get him.

A friend of mine pointed out to me that I have been shorting Condoleezza Rice a “z” every time I use her name on this blog.  My response was that this is no accident.  Ms. Rice will just have to understand I was doing this for her own good -- to free her from the tyranny of an unspellable name.  (Like Anomaly, for example)

I’m sorry, Ms. Rice, what did you say?  You never asked me to help you?  You can’t possibly see what good removing a “z” from your name would do you?

I know this is hard for you, Ms. Rice.  But you’ll just have to trust me.  I know what I’m doing.
The Dems and Congress have not even pushed hard yet and Bush is having childish tantrums. Imagine if they really pushed hard. If they really told him no, you can't have what you want all the time, period. The tantrums would turn into something a little more serious. Perhaps rather then slamming the door trying to rip it from its hinges, or pushing the podium angrily into the front row of the journalist at a news conference. Maybe throwing the mike across the room, or just falling to the floor and screaming. Who knows.  

Regarding the debate last night. Hillary, Hillary, Hillary. Your colors are showing even more. Edwards and Obama pretty well exposed your political double talk and failure to answer questions straight up. If nominated and you continue to do double-speak in your run in the general election, you just might get beat.

Although Chris Matthews made fun of him all night after the debate I think Kucinich admitting he saw a UFO was kind of refreshing in a truthful and honest sort of way. Can't prove he didn't see one. Maybe if elected he could invite the UFO occcupants back to  earth so they could take Bush, Cheney and Rice away on a long extended stay far, far away.

Edwards is fluff, Obama did better, Dodd is kind of sleazy in a way (maybe just the way he looks and speaks), Richardson is a nice guy but won't make it. Biden is good. Like Biden. Tells it like it is and does have experience. Anyone know why he remains so far behind in the polls?  
Thinking back to Countdown’s reference to Catch 22 last night, and also to Dick Cheney’s use of the same words about Iran that he used about Iraq, placed in the context of my own previous comment about Oliver North and “limited immunity,” one question suddenly struck me.

Why is it that, when the Bushies actually do learn the lessons of history, they always seem to learn the wrong ones?

Mr. Olbermann, I am a huge fan of your show, but constantly disappointed with your animal segments, which almost always show animals falling out of trees, being chased by police, or in otherwise panic stricken situations. Please consider showing animals in a more loving light or dispensing with this segment altogether.
Breaking news - October ratings released..... oh no ! NBC and MSNBC fall even further. Congratulations COUNTDOWN , you have sealed the fate of your parent company. Now , is there anyone idiotic enough to waste their money on buying such a loser ???

Kudos to Fox , more viewers than ever !
Hey, Countdown...

...don't know if you've seen this, but it's probably the best analysis of the Big Fat Head (AKA Billo, AKA Captain Falafel) I've ever seen.

http://www.illdoctrine.com/2007/09/if_bill_oreilly_was_a_rapper.html
I'd put a comment but I just haven't had the time to get around to it and besides it isn't that important.
Why do republicans hate children so much? First thay don't want them to have health care, now they don't want to make sure thier toys are safe. The new motto of the republican party should be "love the fetus, hate the child."
Well, gee, what a shame, and she was doing such a fandamntastic job...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/karen_hughes
This just in. A boy in California, playing with matches, has admitted to accidently setting on fire, part of California. Unnamed sources say Dubya and Homeland Security Officials believe he is part of a Childrens Al Qaeda group that has infiltrated the Cub Scouts.
Great show..Keith's purple tie, dark pinstripe suit..yeah..needed that eye candy last night.

#5..here's hoping the Dems have finally gotten that spine they so desperately need. Waiting to see if Nancy means what she says. We've heard it before, we will have to see. Heck, I could even get used to that pouty face Bush puts on if it means he'll continue not getting his way. Loved Keith's responses to what Bush was saying during his news conference.

#4..don't know what to say about Rudy. He's gotten quite weird. He makes no sense. Mr. 9/11 is a mess.



#3..Blackwater..dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. What's to happen if we have a disaster, another attack, the National Guard is unavailable, Blackwater has built a base or two, and they take over for our National Guard in case Marshall Law is ever imposed? Are we fair game like the Iraqi's? Are we going to be gunned down like them if they perceive us as a threat? Will they get immunity in that case? They are a danger to us all.

WPitW..people wonder why Keith and his loyal fans trash Billo. If you saw this segment you people out there defending him, his recent actions speak for themselves. He is shameful.

and..it would seem Joe Torre is about to be gainfully employed. Good for him. Could be he's about to become the new manager for the L.A. Dodgers..I hope so.
It would seem the chilis in hot sauce are not just for eating..

http://enews.earthlink.net/article/hea?guid=20071030/4726ba50_3421_1334520071030990865507
Not one person on that stage last night , including Tim Russert , believes Hillary is qualified to be president. She cannot be honest , cannot tell the truth , and is very brash. Sounds alot like Pam.
08 is going to be fun.

One last request , please ask Hillary to release her WHITE HOUSE papers. It would be interesting to see what she REALLY thinks !  


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