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Countdown Monday: Removing the Goal Posts

Posted: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:55 PM by Countdown
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A Treaty by any Other Name: The Bush Administration has just erased another part of your Constitution. Signing a treaty to keep this country in Iraq permanently. Although, by not calling it a treaty, this Administration of Loophole-ologists, managing to bypass Senate ratification. The "long, hard slog" of any pretense that the Bush Administration ever intended to leave Iraq is finally over tonight.

Lott Done: There may be a last minute hitch in the resignation of Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott so he can become a lobbyist before the laws change on how quickly ex-Senators can become lobbyists.

ODDBALL: A mid-game bite from a police dog to a football player and a foul-mouthed German Santa. Happy Holidays.

The Horserace:  That Senator Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign has made a tactical shift or two in Iowa can no longer be disputed. The campaign this afternoon took another swipe at Barack Obama in a manner pretty much not seen until the gentleman from Illinois pulled pretty much even with the gentle-lady from New York. Clinton demanding a series of answers from Obama about campaign financing and the Washington Post's report that he's been using his own Political Action Committee "Hopefund" to get money to Democratic groups and candidates in the early-voting states.

All Keith, All Channels:  We had a kind of television harmonic convergence last night. In the Eastern and Central time zones, Keith was on two of the four broadcast networks simultaneously. "Football Night In America" on NBC. "The Simpsons" on Fox. And, just for good measure, they then replayed the bit part he did on "Family Guy" on Fox.

WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD: John Gibson of Fox Noise, St. Rudy of 9/11 and the New York Post of Rupert Murdoch all vying for top honors. 

The Odd Couple: Bush and Gore doesn't always mean what first comes to mind. Football? Two of the underperforming running backs in the NFL this year: Reggie Bush and Frank Gore. Foot-wear? The Nunn-Bush slip-on shoe with an elastic gore (the technical term for a widener in the fabric). Australia? The Gore Cove Bush-land Reserve. But nevertheless, none of those Bush/Gore combos is ever likely to supplant ours. Thus the fascination with an unlikely photo-op re-union today.

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#5 -- Long hard slog?  Hey Mr. Molinero -- I thought you said we were winning.

A joint declaration of principles?  Don’t you need some principles before you can declare them?

Trumanesque like The Truman Show?  Exactly.  And also like Jerzy Kosinski’s Being There.  A guy who’s never been anyplace or done anything trying to escape from (or to) reality.

#4 -- Crazy-a$$ remark?  Can I even say that on a blog?  Fumble-ectible.

Oddball -- Okay, let’s make a deal.  No politics in a football show, no football in a political news show.  Stick to Clark Kent.  (:  

BPitW -- Hmmmm.  Orange County.  Hey backwater boy -- isn’t that where Laguna Niguel is located?  That wasn’t you in the cute little striped suit, was it?  (:

Anomaly (loves being there) (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:08 PM)

#3 -- Over the Thanksgiving weekend at my house, we had a discussion about the upcoming presidential primaries.  Our discussion centered on the two front-runners in each party.  Unfortunately, we were able to sum up the choices in each party with one simple -- but unanswerable -- question --

Is the chameleon you know better -- or worse -- than the chameleon you don’t know?

Anomaly (loves chameleons -- gets lots of practice here) (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:09 PM)

#2 -- Keeping Tabs -- Hmmmmmm.  Concurrent sitings of swamp monsters.  Harmonic convergence, for sure.  (:

WPitW -- What do Rudy Giuliani, John Bathtub-Head Gibson, and The New York Post have in common?  --  They’re all things with which you don’t want to be trapped in a hammock for the afternoon.

Elastic morality?  Hey Countdown, that reminds me -- today I heard that Mitt Romney was comparing Hillary to Rudy.  Well, sure, the resemblance is striking, but wouldn’t we need to see them side-by-side in pink dresses to tell for sure?  (Hint, hint.)

#1 -- Al Gore hasn’t been to the White House since 2001?  What I want to know is why President Gore went on vacation for seven years and left George Bush in charge.  I say  impeach President Gore.  (No wait, then we’d get President Lieberman. Never mind.)

p.s. -- Was that a pocket protector I detected under Countdown’s suit jacket?  Nerdy talk, indeed.

Anomaly (loves nerdy talk) (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:11 PM)

I hope we've all successfully stumbled back into the world of work!

If Ambassador Crocker is taking vocab lessons from Rummy, then we REALLY have problems. And, how can someone with no principles sign a "...declaration of principles"?? I'm talking about the REAL definition of "principles" - not GW's definition of how to best make himself look good and his buddies rich.

Was anyone honestly expecting Senator Lott to get up in front of everyone and say, "Yes, I'm resigning now because I want to be a lobbyist and become an even bigger millionaire than I am now"? C'mon...he wouldn't have lasted this long in DC with THAT degree of honesty!

I have to wonder if Al Gore secretly thought, "This is MY office, this is MY desk, this is MY chair, etc."? Having said that, HE IS NOT GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT!

And, finally, I want a Donald Rumsfeld doll! Really, I do!! I want one just so I can do what I used to do to Barbie dolls as a little tomboy – pull its head off and/or any other anatomically correct parts! Too violent? Sorry…with that violent image, I bid you all a good night and a pleasant tomorrow.

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:17 PM)

Good show tonight. As usual the one bright spot in the satellite wasteland.

Noticed you had Patton Oswalt on this evening and that dude rocks! His humor is bone dry and dead on the money. Oswalt stands way above some of the other "guest comedians" that you've featured in that segment. Hope to see a lot more of him.

Pat Ryan (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:24 PM)

#1. Bush and Gore, forever joined in History. Thank the Supremes for that. #2. What's next...Dan Patrick on 'The Tick'? #3. That's nuthin. Wait till she picks a VP! #4. Lobbying could be called Aid To Dependent Republicans. #5. To somebody from Connecticutt, a picture of West Texas and West Iraq, look pretty much the same. Since they both have Oil (prn. AWL), they both pretty much belong to him (prn. No-Bid Contractor).

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:26 PM)

How can Bush obligate Americans to act as policemen indefinitely in Iraq?  Doesn't Congress have something to say about this?  Don't the American people?  If Iraq wants a police force, let them hire Blackwater.  Let Iraq pay for it, not the American taxpayer.  Does Bush hate America so much?  It would appear that he does.  He could not have done more harm to American if he had done it deliberately than he has done with his incompetence the past 7 years.  Osama bin Laden doesn't have to attack us.  We have imploded from within from petty, partisan, crony leadership.

Disgusted, TX (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:26 PM)

Whoever it was who protested putting up new threads before the old ones are updated was on to something.  Other than that, thanks for showing the Marge WPitW bit again, and also for the "Do not kick to whosit" bit from FNiA.  I was at a loss to account for that particular "O Brother" paraphrase (probably because I turned over to THE SIMPSONS early).

Immortal Cougar (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:28 PM)

Why put up a new thread when you have not updated the other one's in 4 1/2 hours??!!

www.disgusted_again.com (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:33 PM)

No one had answered yet.

Was Olbermann Ignorant that back in '92 the Democratic Congress concluded that Reagan didn't have contacts with Iran back in 1980.

Or

Olbermann lied about Reagan having contacts with Iran in 1980 to delay release of the Hostages.

David Molinero (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:36 PM)

MY SECOND ATTEMPT TO POST, I'LL TRY THIS NEW THREAD!!

The administration of George W. Bush is not only the worst in our country’s history; it’s also the most corrupt, criminal, lying, non-transparent and scandalous!! The fake FEMA news conference, where imaginary reporters, a.k.a. FEMA employees, asked “the tough questions” and received “the sterling responses” on behalf of FEMA was appalling; however, check the story out below. It was not the first time this has happened under the “Administration of Catastrophe & Farce”!!  

WASHINGTON – “The fake October news conference held by the Federal Emergency Management Agency was not the first time a Homeland Security public affairs official has acted like a reporter by asking questions during a briefing.

In January 2006, an official with Immigration and Customs Enforcement asked a question during a news conference in San Antonio, Texas, according to an investigation by the Homeland Security Department — the parent agency of both FEMA and ICE.”

For more, here’s the link!! They all literally make me sick; Hell would be too kind a place for the players in this administration!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21978377/

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 10:08 PM)

THIRD ATTEMPT TO POST - AGAIN, I'LL TRY THIS THREAD!!

C A, Tuscaloosa, AL (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 2:41 PM)

C A - From an earlier thread, I agree with you regarding Senator Clinton, which is why I have been upset since she announced her candidacy!! While she has every right to run, she has known for years how polarizing she is; she knew what would be forthcoming; she's extremely intelligent and had a comprehensive understanding of how public opinion would make a general election win particularly challenging!!

She put "Self before Country"; and I therefore have been, and continue to be, extremely upset with her decision to seek the presidency.  This election is too critical for our country's future; she knew that and seemingly didn’t care!!
I hope I am wrong, but seriously, I don't think I am!! The only thing that will save us "if" she gets the nomination is Giuliani, McCain and Romney!! The republican candidates are exceedingly more frightening, which is why I stated last week if Senator Clinton gets the democratic nomination, she has my vote hands down!!

Giuliani and Romney have both stated they will expand Gitmo, not close it under “their administration(s)”; McCain will have us in Iran if Bush/Cheney doesn’t first (as will Giuliani and Romney)-- remember “bomb, bomb, bomb--bomb-- bomb Iran-- by John McCain; all three will keep us in Iraq with no end in site and all have said so!!
Therefore, I have much more confidence and faith in Senator Clinton than these three inept GOP buffoons!!

PEACE!!


Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 10:09 PM)

AGAIN, THIRD ATTEMPT TO POST, I'LL TRY THIS THREAD!!

BREAKING NEWS FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

"Vice President Dick Cheney, who has a history of heart problems, experienced an irregular heartbeat Monday and will be evaluated at George Washington University Hospital."

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Okay, the AP is making sure we’re all on our toes after the long holiday weekend!! Good job; it's a well-known fact the reincarnated Devil has NO heart; he has no soul either!!



No fears AP, “we the people who DO support the troops” are always on our toes; it’s the 24%ers, i.e. George W. Bush, to include his extended Saudi Royal Family; small scottie; Larry-SC, also know as Frank from Reno; David Molinero and Mark-AZ that have NO toes!!

PEACE!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 10:10 PM)

This is interesting, I'm in the upper right quadrant.

http://politicalcompass.org/test

scott henderson nv (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 10:41 PM)

Neo-Cons like Davy-boy, little Scott NV & Pud:

Bushie Boy's only surprise is that he and his crew haven't figured out a way to eliminate the '08 elections, and appoint their own Neo-Con replacements.

Since, HE kept us so-called safe, isn't having a new POTUS a national security issue?  Don't we NEED a strong Neo-Con leader, who will do the RIGHT thing instead of the correct thing?

Talvenada, Phila., Penna. (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 11:00 PM)

Anomaly (really remembers real men) (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 1:55 PM) Thanks for the much-needed chuckle at the end of my craptacular day. Coming back to work after a week off BLOWS!
Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 4:22 PM)

Tell me about it.  But I assure you, this book (which is really called Talk Nerdy to Me) is good for a lot more than a chuckle.  Guaranteed to fix whatever ails you.  Give it a try.  You won't be disappointed.

Thanks, again, Immortal Cougar.  You've made my week.  Possibly my year.  Hmmmmm.  Pocket protectors.  

Anomaly (taken in small doses, good for what ails) (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 11:02 PM)

please...
i am so happy hillary is running... if people dont think she could win, can they explain why she has higher numbers than ANYONE ELSE?

i'm sick of people regurgitating republican double speak,about clinton and her chances...
its okay for someone who is not politically savy,
to lost in the fiction...
but when its coming from the sleazy candidates and our party, something stinks in kansas...

hillary is so ahead of anything anyone can throw at her, she and her husband alone has played the
ultimate hand, and they arent in it for themselves, thats crap...
please, she will always be a first lady, she will always be rich, she will always be a celebrity, and could probably always be a senator...
but she knows that she has what few people have, all the right stuff to take back the white house. and not only that, to turn it all around...
if you were the only person to a thing, and you knew you could not only do it good, but you could kick but, wouldnt you decide to take over and do it?

you would if you werent gutless, and you would blink when haters tried to take you down...    

skmf (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 11:53 PM)

#5 - That photo of Bush signing the treaty-that-isn't-a-treaty by teleconference cries out for Photoshop. Superimposing a shot of Bill Cosby doing Picture Pages on Captain Kangaroo would be ideal.

#4 - Good riddance.

Oddball - Gratuitous Nick Saban shot. Gag. At least train the dogs to bite the opposing team.

#3 - To be honest, the Democrats could run a poodle in a tutu at this point and it would get my vote. (It would probably also look better than Giuliani in a dress.)

#2 - I'm still waiting for R-U-N-N-O-F-T to make its way into the highlights.

WPITW - I get the bathtub-head thing with John Gibson, but I swear the man sounds like Droopy Dog.

#1 - Let's see. Olbermann in a 2-fer on Fox Sunday night. Gore and Bush pose for a photo. I'm going to have to brush up on the Book of Revelation.

HM, in an ivory tower somewhere (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:03 AM)

#5 "Loophole-ologist" indeed. Bush, again, trying to be Reaganesque and falling into it face-first. The worst pres in history manages to screw up the Marx's famous maxim about history: "the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce." Reagan seems comical in comparison to Bush, who (with his toadies on the right) calls to mind on a daily basis the observation on the banality of evil. If it's banal, is it evil? This administration certainly is banal, utterly without shame, morals, integrity -- I am absolutely at a loss for a metaphor, feeling a bit Hamlet-esque in the absence of an objective correlative.

Dana Perrino's face but not a soundbite from her for a while. Is she the same sort of stooge as Scott McC was, or a different sort of stooge, or jus' plain clueless, or indeed the mouth of Sauron who's sold her soul?

#1 Much as I dislike the "humor" segment, the new kid managed to wring a chuckle or two out of me and the missus. So maybe there is hope for that slot.  But I'd still prefer Rachel.

A. Wrightwing Conspiritor (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:14 AM)

I think you are doing great work for society. I only disagree with one thing:

I really just wish that you hadn't refered to those hacks/whores at the  NYPost as 'clowns'. That is an insult to clowns. Seriously.

gothamTomato, nyc (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 AM)

scott henderson nv (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 10:41 PM)

Heh.  I'm in the Libertarian Left near the centre.  Sweet.  Kinda like the third point that would make a triangle between the Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela.

Sweet.

Brandon, IA (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:27 AM)

I'm sure BushCo made sure that the Nobel winners photo's were taken in wide-screen (or is that wide stance?) so not to show him in close up with Al Gore:   the man his spin merchants and slime machine attacked diligently, continually, and unmercifully in 2000 and from whom the election was stolen.

7 years later Al Gore is highly respected here and world-wide as well as a winner of an Oscar and the Nobel Prize and the other is ..... well, a doofus known here and world-wide as the worst president ever.  Karma bites Bush in the keister?

Now, if only Al will run ......

Also interesting is the 90 day rule on off year Senate appointments in Mississippi.  Most likely an old rule demanded by Repugnikants when the South was mostly Conservative Democrats.  Another episode of Karma?

On another note, thanks for replaying the Worst Person in the NFL.  I didn't hear the end because I was laughing too hard.  I'm hoping it will appear on MSNBV Video.  Too funny.

Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:30 AM)

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 10:10 PM)

I heard about Cheney's heart problems this morning on NPR, and the first thought that went through my mind was -- Cheney has a heart?  

Carol, Long Valley, NJ (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:36 AM)

Good Morning All..

Green tie, tweed suit--very nice..
Richard Wolffe..blue tie, blue shirt, blue tie..verrrry nice! Ah, the men of Countdown (a BIG sigh here). I have to critique to feel good before getting to the stressful stuff.

#5..so now we're in Iraq forever thanks to El Presidente Dictator's "treaty"..by-passing the Senate ratification. Another case of what John Dean in his book Broken Government so rightly calls "process" or lack thereof. Disgusting.

#4..did we really think Trent "never a hair out of place" Lott was going to tell us something like the reason he was resigning was to spend more time with his family? Wouldn't it be grand if his real reason for leaving blows up in his face..oh wait..maybe not. Tree hugger, ha..casinos here I come.

#2..Thank you for the encore of Keith on the Simpsons. On the West Coast we didn't have the pleasure of watching Keith on the Family Guy..grrrr.

#1..Al Gore looked more Presidential in the Oval Office then Bush. Bush looked like the visitor. Al Gore really belongs there..grrr again.

and..the Rummy doll would be good for sticking pins in it. Like if there was a Bush doll, a Cheney doll..hey Mattel..hint!

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:13 AM)

Forgot to say..Patton Oswalt is a cool guy.  I could go for seeing more of him. He's really good.

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:15 AM)

Time for Glen Beck to make your worst persons list again.  Police and Secret Service agents (wtf?) harassed and threatened Ron Paul supporters with arrest for approaching Beck at a bookstore where he was signing and promoting his new book (which no self-respecting Newsholer would ever read).  They wanted an explanation as to why Beck has repeatedly linked Ron Paul supporters to terrorists on his show.  I'd like an answer to that, too.

Why are Secret Service agents chaperoning Beck around?  Is it because he is paid and protected to spew government propaganda?

R. NorCal (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:38 AM)

The only time I saw him without a jacket he was wearing suspenders, in a misguided homage to Larry King.  Are suspenders on the list of nerdy attire?  Immortal Cougar (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 4:08 PM)

They’re on MY list, as of now.  High on my list.

Anomaly (living her fantasies -- suspending disbelief) (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:53 AM)

I get the impression that females are attracted to Keith.  nuanced (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 6:16 PM)

Either that, or this blog emits pheromones.  Or both.  (:

Anomaly (female, for sure) (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:58 AM)

God I hate doing this.  scott henderson nv (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 8:53 PM)

No you don’t.  Good for you.  (Even if it WAS just the tequila talking.)  (:

Anomaly (tequila always talks to me) (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:03 AM)

Bush seems to continue to rule ( not govern ) as if he is above the law. Like Nixon, when he doesn't want to be accountable, he and Cheney drag out national security or executive privilege. This, along with his signing statements on legislation which is passed through Congress. On the upside, the next president, hopefully an intelligent pragmatist, will have no problem abrogating this neo-con wet dream. OPEC, while in theory just a cartel in oil, does have political common ground among it's middle eastern memebers. At some point, they are going to decide they do not want Iraq to be the new American colony within their oil fields and are going to ratchet up the insurgency again. I really don't think any puppet government we coddle there is going to have any real staying power and we might as well take that 2 billion a week we are spending to Vegas and have a good time. In the alternative, we could just burn it. People of Bush's low capabilities define winning as not losing or being able to blame someone else for losing. He has succeeding in prolonging the war so that it will be seen as the next president's loss. Trust me it's a loss no matter how many statistics they spin out there.

gator,stuart,fl (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:55 AM)

Anomaly (taken in small doses, good for what ails) (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 11:02 PM) All right...all right...all right...you've talked me into this; I'm up for a little more "light" reading in my diet, anyway.

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:58 AM)

If permanent bases are established in Iraq that is going to make for one great positive recruiting poster:

"Join the Army and See The World (Iraq That Is)". Those thinking of joining better read the fine print at the bottom of the poster - "Disclaimer - Be sure to stay on the base at all times or we will not be responsible for your health, keep your head down and  only shoot after being shot at. You will be subject too all Iraqi/Islamic rules and justice if you get out of line because we don't want to piss them off".

Oh boy, sign me up!

C A, Tuscaloosa, AL (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:35 AM)

Ho Hum, another hate filled rant by our local supporter of terrorists. Don't be so shocked by planting questions , I heard on PMSNBC that everyone does it. It must be ok.
Now on to a very important subject. I believe more people went to jail and more criminals were pardoned under the previous administration , starting with the impeachment of the head slimeball. Get over it. Pamie, just because you have shown your distaste for America and our many freedoms , you don't have a right to outright lie. It's ok to hate America , there are many more people who love America and will not put the future in the hands of Hillary and her slimy husband.
King Abdulla is calling Pamie, is anyone home ??  

Larry Charleston, SC (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:46 AM)

So the Iraqi government we installed has agreed to let us pay for and provide thier reconstruction and security.  The phrase that comes to mind is "it's mighty white of them".

jen,il (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:54 AM)

Leaving a year into a six year term shows contempt for the people of Missisippi who thought they were electing a senator last year.  I'm not sure they will recongnize that however, after all they voted for trent lott.  

jen,il (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:57 AM)

I'm more than a little annoyed at the Oprah hate.  It always seems to come from men. I'm not a big Oprah fan, I never watch her show but I do recognize she came from nothing and has made it a point to do good things with her money.  I also think she will bring people into politics who never had any interest in it before.  That's a really good thing.  The more people get involved and informed the better democracy works.  

jen,il (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:02 AM)

"Thanks, again, Immortal Cougar.  You've made my week.  Possibly my year.  Hmmmmm.  Pocket protectors." Anomaly (taken in small doses, good for what ails) (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 11:02 PM) I hate to burst your bubble-really, but Keith owns an IPhone; remember him railing about the price decrease a couple months back? Anyway, it MIGHT be his phone, but you keep on thinking what you want to think. As a professor and one who's had some poetry published, far be it for me to disrupt "the creative process." ;)

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:02 AM)

Was I the only one hoping Al would knock bush over the head and just refuse to leave?  It was so sad to see a brilliant, courageous, dedicated, leader standing next to the guy the supreme court chose.  I will never forgive Sandra Day O'Conner.  

jen,il (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:06 AM)

This is interesting, I'm in the upper right quadrant.
scott henderson nv (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 10:41 PM)

Why would we find this interesting scottie?  I find nothing interesting about you.

mad in Madtown (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:12 AM)

There are 420 days until the end of this regime on 1/20/2009
There are 405 days until the end of this Congress on 1/5/2009 ???
There are 343 days until election day -- 11/4/2008

The first Caucus/Primary hasn't happened yet!  Evaluate ALL the
candidates and think wisely before you vote.
And we are counting down.

"The insult is the last refuge of the out-argued"
-- John 'Birdman' Bryant

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:27 AM)

Larry- I know I have said this before but I get that you are a little slow.  I am not a Hillary fan.  I will not defend her while she is running against men like John Edwards and Barack Obama I think either of them would be better presidents than she would be.  I think if one agreed to be the others vice-president we could have 16 years of peace, prosperity and a strong middle class.  Having said that, she is a thousand times better than any of the republicans running.  If my choice is Hillary or a guy who I think might stumble his way into WW3, I will choose Hillary everytime.  Luckly, until the primaries are over I still have much better options.

jen,il (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:28 AM)

This is interesting, I'm in the upper right quadrant.

http://politicalcompass.org/test
scott henderson nv (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 10:41 PM)

I'm not surprised at all...I noticed among world leaders that's where most of the real crackpots like Bush are. I took the test and scored in the lower left, which puts me in the same company with the Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela...good company indeed.

Samuel, Lincoln, NE (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:35 AM)

Wanna "strange" read?   olbermannwatch.com  John Scully Denver(West WAAAAy West of the Rockies) Co (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 9:33 PM)

I never mind a “strange” read, but been there, read that, don’t wanna go back again.  

What are you trying to tell us, sir?  If, as you’ve told me, you’re sick of hearing about Billo, then Mr. Olbermann ought to be your anti-Billo-dote.  Please illuminate.

By the way, I’ve been to Denver, and I recall it being a few yards EAST of the Rockies.  Am I missing something?  

Anomaly (thinks illumination is the anti-Billo-dote) (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:55 AM)

You can see the oil oozing from the lips of the Statue of Liberty! Midland Oil signs a deal circumventing congressional ratification to stay FOREVER in Iraq to harvest OUR oil. Oil Boys chemically bombing colored chillen for Halliburton and Hunt Oil so they can harvest the second largest oil patch on this dying planet. Congratulations Republicans, Iraqica is our new Oil Colony, lock, stock and barrel of forty weight, stolen from the dead barbarians for Jesus and the American Way because they refused to privatize their riches for the oil-sucking invaders. You Republicans gave the army to Oil Boys and they fetched up the second largest oil reserve on the planet for trillions in contracts of development and production. Here's a little ditty from the Southland. Oil Boys ain't greasy no mo, ain't got no patches, no po house woes, dey ain't lubin no cam, ain't wrenching no gear, No, oil boys ain't greasy no mo, cause dey got the shaft dat go down slo. happy hunting brothers and sisters and I suggest our new greasy flag in Iraqica display an oil rig, a B-52 and a Caymans' bank of insatiable greed and lots and lots of dead people. It wasn't our oil in 2003 or today and it's a list of war crimes longer than the lies and alibis. good luck.  

doomed (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:02 AM)

I see that Keith is on this new kick about naming Fox News personalities (if you can accurately call them that) after bathroom fixtures. I'm not sure how Gibby's head resembles a bath tub, but I thought it was pretty funny.

If Keith continues this trend, my question is who from Fixed Noise will get the vaunted title of "Toilet Head" or "Crapper Face"? My thought is that it's probably a tossup between Bill O'Reilly and Brit Hume.

Samuel, Lincoln, NE (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:03 AM)

Thanks, again, Immortal Cougar.  You've made my week.  Possibly my year.  Hmmmmm.  Pocket protectors.  


Anomaly (taken in small doses, good for what ails) (Sent Monday, November 26, 2007 11:02 PM)

True, Anomaly.  However, given the choice between a nerd with a pocket protector and Mike Rowe saying in that sultry voice "are you ready to get dirty?"--uh, all bets are off.


Immortal Cougar (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:11 AM)

keith: why the hypocrisy when reporting on the Hillary- Obama race for the democratic nomination?
When Craig Crawford and yourself report on Obama's Hope Pac fund spreading his excess contributions around the country to democratic candidates while Hillary kept her excess funds for her own presidential campaign , you fail to mention that Obama even donated to Hillary's campaign!! Will she be endorsing him soon? You rail on FoxNews for spinning the news , yet on Hillary ,you employ blatant spinning yourself.. The democrats that received funds from Obama were locked into tight races to try to allow the democrats to gain control of Congress. The succeeded and you are implying that is a bad thing. Crawford and yourself are transperant Hillary supporters.. you fool no one. Bias is not ok at Fox but ok at Countdown.. come on..come clean and report it straight.

James (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:14 AM)

keith: why the hypocrisy when reporting on the Hillary- Obama race for the democratic nomination?
When Craig Crawford and yourself report on Obama's Hope Pac fund spreading his excess contributions around the country to democratic candidates while Hillary kept her excess funds for her own presidential campaign , you fail to mention that Obama even donated to Hillary's campaign!! Will she be endorsing him soon? You rail on FoxNews for spinning the news , yet on Hillary ,you employ blatant spinning yourself.. The democrats that received funds from Obama were locked into tight races to try to allow the democrats to gain control of Congress. The succeeded and you are implying that is a bad thing. Crawford and yourself are transperant Hillary supporters.. you fool no one. Bias is not ok at Fox but ok at Countdown.. come on..come clean and report it straight.

James (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:14 AM)

Looks like the real Mideast Peace is at hand. Bush will receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his great leadership. Unlike Jimmy "I gave away the Panama Canal" Carter, this is real and meaningful. NOT a feel good liberal sham. Congratulations Mr President. Of course Keith and his commune will belittle this. Liberals are set in America's defeat , anything bad for America is good for the liberals. However; the good news just keeps on coming. BTW , Hillary is in upstate SC today where my son attends college. He said she is getting harassed at every stop. I knew there was a reason I love South Carolina , besides the fact that we fired the first shots of the Civil War !

Larry Charleston, SC (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:15 AM)

Actually I'm not exactly what you'd call with it, so I thought I'd consult w/Anomaly and co. about a truly disturbing dream I had last night--about Joe Scarborough strutting around in a gen-u-wine Nudie suit.  Rocky Mountain Guy, if you're out there somewhere, you will surely appreciate what an anomaly--oops, I meant oddity--that was.  (The pattern was not marijuana leaves, so I know for certain it wasn't a Gram Parsons castoff.)  To be honest, I've always kinda thought Joe is a bit on the nerdy side.  Is this an example of a nerd gone wild (which is another title in the series)?  HELP!

PS About Mike Rowe of the sexy sultry voice--did I mention he has indisputably blue eyes?  And I suspect that if KO weren't such a SERIOUS news guy (<G>) he'd use that controversy as a ploy to keep us femmes watching--

Immortal Cougar (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:19 AM)



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