Countdown Tuesday: Past Pretense Imperfect

Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:59 PM by Countdown
Filed Under: Blogging the Countdown

Mis-speaking and Missed Peace: Mispronunciations and faux pas are not the exclusive province of the Dummy. Two-time presidential candidate, intellectual, UN Ambassador, Adlai Stevenson, once told the world body that under Fidel Castro, human rights in Cuba, quote, "have been circumsized." He meant... circum-scribed. But in our fifth story on the Countdown: Everybody screws up words. This, however, is getting ridiculous. During his cameo at the Israeli-Palestinian conference in Maryland today, the President had less luck with the names of the participants than Czech president Vaclav Havel did with Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa in 1998.

Shh...it's a Secret: The Senate -- trying tonight to reign-in Bush Administration abuse of "The State Secrets." How? Well, it's a secret.

ODDBALL: The turkey in the drive thru mystery thickens, and a truck goes in the big drink.

U.S.OH NO HE DIDN'T!: The only thing more offensive than slamming the folks who are trying to support the troops... is to have one of them on your show and slam him in person. Thus, in our third story on the Countdown, the Frank Burns of news... Bill O'Reilly... did. Attacking the USO, again. And suggesting, that one celebrity who should definitely be allowed to entertain the troops... is the conservative radio host Dr. Laura Schlessinger... even though she has bad-mouthed wives of the troops.

Babs Goes For Hillary: Our number two story tonight.. Not dancing with the stars, but voting with them.. Keeping Tabs on celebrity endorsements...Oprah had already come out for Obama... Chuck Norris for Mike Huckabee... Robert Duvall backing Rudy Giuliani..

WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD: Mr. Peter Perweiler, you'll have to watch to find out who he is, FEMA and Mitt Romney vie for tonight's top honors.

Norman Lloyd: And to our number one story on the Countdown, and a few simple facts. Somewhere in the English-speaking world, right now, it is happening. A kid of about 11 or 12, maybe younger, maybe older, is watching, for the first time, an episode of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents." He will be shortly be simultaneously scared out of his mind -- in a way no slasher movie could cause -- and also impressed. He will want to know: who are the people who did this to him? He will watch the credits and see a name -- listed as actor, or director, or Associate Producer, or Executive Producer. Norman Lloyd. Somewhere else, somebody is seeing the under-appreciated Hitchcock classic "Saboteur" for the first time, and be amazed by the just-crazy-enough title character, and watch the credits and see the actor's name. Norman Lloyd. Keith's guest tonight? Norman Lloyd.

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Comments

##5 and 4 -- No idea. Was busy trying to detect pocket protector. I’ll just have to rely on Clark Kent to protect the planet.

#3 -- The case of Dr. Laura -- 24 bottles of ice-9. A frozen treat, for sure.

#2 -- Truth and Consequences -- liquid version available without a prescription, can be used to treat anti-Billo loofah talisman. Smear mongeree bumper sticker included when purchased with a case of Dr. Laura.

WPitW -- My religion is three times as popular as your religion? Sounds like plenty of reason to start a war, nowadays. Time to invade Utah. Do it for the women. Lower levels of Mr. Romney’s administration? What other levels would there be?

#1 -- Norman Lloyd. Guys with real character. (:

p.s. What color were Clark Kent’s eyes, anyway?

Anomaly (if we lead Billo to a case of Dr. Laura can we make him drink it?) (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:08 PM)

The color of Keith's eyes are a "state secret"; he could tell us, but then he'd have to kill us.

Mr. President, there would've been no shame in spelling those leaders' names "fo-ne-tic-ly" on your copy. Do you know, sir, what "phonetically" means?

Kudos for the SOUTH PARK lyrics just before the commercial before "Oddball"! SIMPSONS got me through my undergrad years; SOUTH PARK got me through graduate school. So, I think I've seen about every SOUTH PARK episode.

And, I guess I have another movie to see.

Happy birthday, Phil Griffin, and everyone have a good night!

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:11 PM)

Pakistan Update -- Hey Immortal Cougar --

I heard John Edwards say on NBC news tonight that he thinks our greatest threat is Pakistan. So I decided to check in on the status of our favorite meddlesome woman, Eleanor of Aquitaine. It looks like Richard Coeur de Lion has finally arrived. Unfortunately, the cure may be worse than the disease. THIS guy knows weapons of mass destruction and does not appear likely to let Eleanor out of the castle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/world/asia/28pakistan.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin

“[Former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif] was tossed out of power by General Musharraf in a 1999 coup. Such a forceful stand contrasts in many respects to Mr. Sharif’s own time as prime minister. He is best remembered here and in Washington as the leader who brought the world a nuclear Pakistan, flirted with war with India and forged strong ties with religious conservatives. His tenure was marred by charges of rampant corruption and by confrontations with the courts and the media as well. Mr. Sharif’s return to Pakistan now is likely to stir deep unease in the Bush administration, which has stood with General Musharraf as its best bet in the fight against terrorism, said Daniel Markey, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, who until recently dealt with Pakistan issues at the State Department.”

Ties to “religious conservatives”? Let’s hope this doesn’t mean Angmar’s new boss -- the one hiding out in northwest Pakistan. HE knows how to “stir deep unease in the Bush administration.”

Anomaly (still deeply uneasy over Pakistan) (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:40 PM)

frank burns of news...excellent!

Mike, OC, CA (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:42 PM)

#1. A Classy Guy...and they don't come around very often. #2. I hear Ann Coulter is endorsing Cheney. #3. Yeah, right. The troops are clamoring for Dr. Laura? Can she Tap Dance? Does she know the words to "Tommorow'? Maybe take Bill along and they can do a duet on 'There's A Fungus Among Us". #4. I would guess 'Secret' is just another Dubyatalk Wurd that means 'Lie'. #5. It would have been much simpler for Dubya to refer to them the way Hamlet was sometimes referred to as just 'Denmark'. Then he could have said, "OK IZ-REAL, work it out with Palace-TIN-EE-UH. I gotta go practice mah strut. Mish-EE-O-Nee Ah-Comp-PLISH-uh-Mundo!"

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:48 PM)

You should let go of negative things ...

Chinese Fortune Cookie (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:46 PM)

Sp when will Keith admit that he was wrong (lied) about Reagan having contacts with Iran to delay the release of the hostages until Carter was out of office?

That bit of news was dis-proven by the Democratically Controlled Congress of 1992. It only took two minutes on Google to find from the U.S. Senate;

"by any standard, the credible evidence now known falls far short of supporting the allegation of an agreement between the Reagan campaign and Iran to delay the release of the hostages" (Committee on Foreign Relations 1992, 115).

David Molinero (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:05 PM)

Speaking of the WPITW, more flip flopping on Romney the political acrobat!!

PRO-CHOICE

When running for Senate in 1994 against Senator Kennedy, Romney said in two debates, "I believe that Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice.
- (Wow – a progressive Republican, a tip of the hat to you Mitt!!)

Kennedy shot back: "I am pro-choice; my opponent is multiple choice."
- (I think Mitt’s headed for some trouble!!)

GAY RIGHTS

When running for both Governor and Senator, during his 1994 and 2002 Massachusetts campaigns Romney stated, he “would have a better policy providing for domestic partnerships than his Democratic opponents would. I will support and endorse efforts to provide those domestic partnership benefits to gay and lesbian couples. We must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern."
- (Your open-mindedness and compassion is amazing!!)

In 2004, he opposed both same-sex marriage and civil unions in Massachusetts when the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ordered such marriages be permitted. Romney lobbied for a constitutional amendment to overturn the decision.
- (Whoops, I spoke too soon, “Mr. Compassion” is definitely headed for trouble!!)

PANTS ON FIAR MITT!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:07 PM)

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones ...

Clara Mae Mattingly, Hammond, IN (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:13 PM)

And Pam knows liars
Larry Charleston, SC (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:47 PM)
That's right...every time she responds to one of your inane, uninformed posts.
Samuel, Lincoln, NE (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:09 PM)

Samuel, I don't think I properly thanked you for this. You always "have my back" so to speak and I sincerely appreciate that and you!!

I also love your posts; it’s quite obvious you are very intelligent, well-informed and want the best for our country --you also have a great sense of humor!! Thank you for your contribution here, it's superb and I've learned a great deal from your posts!! Many have also made me laugh; thank you, as with everything this administration’s done, there’s not too much to laugh about!!

PEACE FRIEND!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:22 PM)

Clyde Story, Santa Ana, CA. (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:52 AM)

Unnamed sources claim Dubya's increasing vexation with written material is probably due to malfunctions of the Golgi Apparatus at the Cellular Level. The cause has been variously blamed on radiation from his backpack teleprompter, a diet lacking in lipids, or mitochondrial guilt manifestation due to electro-mitochondric reaction to falsified data, with resulting drops in static secretions.

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:56 AM)

So is it President Dummy or President Stupid. I'm kind of fond of President Stupid myself.

Carol, Long Valley, NJ (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:15 AM)

I found the piece on Norman Lloyd fascinating, thank you. I may have to wait until it gets to DVD or HBO before I can see it. Documentaries like that don't always make it out to the theaters in my neck of the woods.

Carol, Long Valley, NJ (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:17 AM)

So, Congress pushed for the war in the fall of '02, and it was all of Congress? Not the dreaded Dems & Libs? The same war that was mentioned in 11/01 by Bushie Boy? That's right debate via the media on going to war w/ Iraq by Bushie Boy in mid-to-late Nov. of the PREVIOUS year.

No one was able to change the history of 'Nam, but they weren't Neo-Cons. Neo-Cons are flawless.

Right, little Scott NV, Davy-boy, Pud?

Talvenada, Phila., Penna. (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 2:16 AM)

Mis-speaking as often as Bush does is a reflection of his laziness and lack of care as much as his learning disability. In my opinion, it is unforgivable.

I have been a speech-language pathologist for 42 years and have worked with thousands of persons with learning disabilities. Bush should have learned years ago strategies for assuring correct pronunciation of names. It takes time and effort, but even for a person with a severe learning disability and it is possible to master effortless and automatic name pronunciations.

Any newscaster knows this, so it baffles me that the "speech media," with the exception of Mr. Olbermann, do not treat with greater derision Mr. Bush's carelessness and resulting embarrassment to the nation.

Kathy P, Cheboygan, Michigan (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:29 AM)

Bush the Statesman - Not!

It is one thing not to have handle on words, names and phrases and to make blunders all the time. It is another thing altogether not to be prepared ahead of time to make sure you have the names correct at such an important event. Bush clearly looked rushed, in a hurry and totally unprepared in his meeting with the Israeli and Palestinian leaders. I'm sure they picked up on it and felt the same. What is it with this guy that he just can't seem to be able to represent this country as the kind of statesman this country expects and deserves. These comments have nothing to do with hating Bush. On his own he has proven time and again that he is an embarassment to the office of the President. Is there not a actor somewhere who could double for Bush at such events and who could at least play the role of a knowledgable statesman?

Nice interview with Norman Loyd, Keith.

C A, Tuscaloosa, AL (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:41 AM)

There are 419 days until the end of this regime on 1/20/2009
There are 404 days until the end of this Congress on 1/5/2009 ???
There are 342 days until election day -- 11/4/2008

The first Caucus/Primary hasn't happened yet! Evaluate ALL the
candidates and think wisely before you vote.
And we are counting down.

"The insult is the last refuge of the out-argued"
-- John 'Birdman' Bryant

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:52 AM)

This will add to the confusion about Hillary's stance regarding the Iraq War. There are times when Bill does more harm to Hillary than good. This is a classic case here. This is classic Clinton double speak. But because he is such a good politician, he gets away with it. Hillary says she confident, but it is clear that the Clinton camp is very worried about the recent surge by Obama. They need to stop the bleeding

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/us/politics/28clinton.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Kevin of NJ (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:03 AM)

Mr. Story, have you just been awakened from a long and dreamless sleep? You must be one of the few people on the planet who believes in Karl Rove. Please go back to sleep and spare us!

L. R. McKamy (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:39 AM)

http://politicalcompass.org/test OK...I buckled under the "peer pressure" and took the stinkin' test; and I thought my test-taking days were over! ;) I placed in the exact same locale as the Dali Lama. I'll take that!

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:42 AM)

Well-as far as Keith's eyes go, it sometimes appears that his right eye is lighter than his left, while other times it appears that they are both the same color. Perhaps someday when the pigmen roam the earth we will know for certain.

#5-How embarrassing. How embarrassing. How shameful. How embarrassing. It was as though he was completely unfamiliar with who these people even were before speaking! Even Ryan Secrest knows the names and pronunciations of every American Idol contestant...and he is a T.V. personality, NOT the leader of a country!

#3-What is wrong with B.O.??? My parents are conservatives and my Mother watches him religiously. I can't stand to be in the room for more than 2 minutes when he is on. I am not sure if the members of our military would be appreciative or excited to have Dr. Laura come to "entertain" them.
Keith-THANK YOU for continually reminding us about the Redacted commercial during his show...makes me smile every time.

Keep up the great work Keith! And thanks to everyone who posts on here...makes my workday go by faster:)

Sarah, Tucson, AZ (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:43 AM)

When you call John Gibson(Bathtub Head), what does that mean? Just Wondering, East Of The Continental Divide (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:12 PM)

You’re probably asking Countdown this question, as your immediately following post suggests, but as I’ve been reflecting on this myself lately, I’ll answer that for me. Mr. Gibson is a public figure, and in that way is different from the people here on this blog (although I do see that Mr. Olbermann has apparently posted something about his eye color (LOL)).

When you assign a nickname to a public figure, it’s meant as satirical – it expresses an opinion about that person through the use of metaphor. A kind of shorthand. Sometimes that’s not nice. I’m guilty of it, too, and not always proud of it. But when a person puts him/herself out there as a public figure, it’s considered more fair game. I imagine Mr. Olbermann has names assigned to him by people with opposing views, as well.

On the other hand, when you assign a derogatory nickname to someone on this blog, it’s much more personal, even if it’s meant to be satirical, because people on this blog are not public figures. At this level, it may very well be hurtful and demeaning, even if not originally intended that way. In my own humble opinion, it doesn’t do much to advance the discourse. But that’s just me. Others can speak for themselves.

And thanks for asking. It's a VERY good question.

Clara Mae Mattingly, Hammond, IN (whose prom date was Schwartz) (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:47 AM)

Kevin in Nj- It is hard for me to focus on Hillarys changing position on the war when the guy in charge of the war can't even define "success". First it was getting rid of saddam then it was bringing democracy and now he seems happy just to make this thing last as long as possible. Hillary may not be the picture of consistancy but she didn't send our soldiers there to die. I'm equally as unimpressed with the calls for her records. While the president still won't even tell us who wrote our energy policy or allow anyone in the executive branch to release the numerous records congress asked for. The Clintons are good at playing politics by the rules set up by republicans, as distasteful as I find that, it is how they have servived for so long.

jen,il (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:54 AM)

Norman Lloyd was a terrific guest. Very special man.

When you and he were talking about Alfred Hitchcock, I had quite a chuckle, thinking back to the early 1960’s. Mom can we go to the movies? - an Alfred Hitchcock picture is showing. Yes, of course you can go - he’s a great director - Notorious, Rebecca, Suspicion, Shadow of a Doubt, Witness for the Prosecution. Enjoy the movie. (Evidently she hadn’t seen Psycho). So we went and saw The Birds. I’ll never forget it. We couldn’t have been more than 8 years old.

As someone said not too long ago, watching an Alfred Hitchcock movie is akin to being on acid.

Movie Buff (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:00 AM)

NEWS HOLE - SECOND ATTEMPT TO POST SINCE YESTERDAY!!

#5 - What can we expect from a man whose feet are cemented in is mouth??!!

My personal "favorite" (so far), and yet one more embarrassment to our country, was his "toast" to the Palestinian and Israeli leaders!! Uh, President Stupid, it's against the Islamic faith to drink alcohol!!

Of course you wouldn't know that, as prior to YOUR Iraq War, when many Middle Eastern experts advised you against invading Iraq; warned you of the centuries old religious conflict between the Shia's and Sunni's, to include your own father and Colin Powell; avowed a catastrophic civil war would be the consequence, you stated, "Shia's, Sunni's -- I thought they were all Muslins."

I won’t even give you the benefit of the doubt and state you were in a stupor when you made that imbecilic rejoinder!! Your flagrant mental incapacity, right then and there, was an impeachable offense in my opinion!! It confirmed what I knew all along; you lack all ability to carry out the everyday affairs of your own life or to care for your own person or property with reasonable discretion, let alone “we the people” or run this country!!

You're worldly knowledge is limited to Jim Beam; Jack Daniels; cocaine; DUI’s and cover-ups!!

Take that “toast” you ignorant, uneducated, unaware, uninformed, stupid and evil maggot!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:06 AM)

Yeah for the Senate! First they stay in session over Thanksgiving to prevent recess appointments now they are finally trying to rein in a bit of the presidents power. It is good to at least see them attempting to become relevant again. Double yeah for Arlen Spector!

jen,il (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:08 AM)

My favorite rove story is he says when he was a kid he got beaten up by a girl and that's when he became a republican. Shows him for the sissy, coward he is. I suspect that now like all good republicans he pays girls to beat him up.

jen,il (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:12 AM)

At least this administration before patting itself on the back for some apparent recent pacification should get down on its knees and ask for God's forgiveness. For all God sees is the wasteful and tragic death of thousands and man's continued inhumanity towards other men. STOP with the victory dances (even if peace and some stabality is around the corner) and pray for those who died and for those who sent out men/women to die, friend or foe. C A, Tuscaloosa, AL (Sent Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:09 PM)

CA – Bravo. As always, sir, you’ve touched the exact heart of the matter. Your soul speaks volumes. Thanks and bless you.

Anomaly (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:22 AM)

Best Person of The Day: Stephen King:

Someone in the Bush family should actually be waterboarded so they could report on it to George. I said, I didn't think he would do it, but I suggested Jenna be waterboarded and then she could talk about whether or not she thought it was torture

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1687229,00.html

Adelaide,Sunnyvale,CA (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:23 AM)

An interesting article that is worth reading.

November 28, 2007
ECONOMY
A Progressive Growth Strategy
by Faiz Shakir, Amanda Terkel, Satyam Khanna, Matt Corley, and Ali Frick

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/progressreport

"RESTORING THE AMERICAN DREAM: Under Bush, inequality in America has widened dramatically. Paul Krugman wrote last year, 'For the first time in our history, so much growth is being siphoned off to a small, wealthy minority that most Americans are failing to gain ground even during a time of economic growth -- and they know it.' "

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:23 AM)

MISSING COMMENTS AGAIN NEWS HOLE!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:25 AM)

For every article that says all is well in Iraq, there is one saying it is not.

IRAQ -- POLL OF JOURNALISTS BELIEVE CONDITIONS IN IRAQ HAVE 'GOTTEN WORSE': In a new Project for Excellence in Journalism poll, journalists in Iraq describe conditions there "as the most perilous they have ever encountered." Fifty-eight percent of those polled -- "most of them veteran war correspondents" -- say that "at least one of their Iraqi staff had been killed or kidnapped in the last year alone," and "eight out of ten, feel that, over time, conditions for telling the story of Iraq have gotten worse, not better." The results also undercut right-wing arguments that the media's reporting on the war is too negative. In April, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) wrote in the Washington Post, "The new political-military strategy is beginning to show results. But most Americans are not aware because much of the media are not reporting it or devote far more attention to car bombs and mortar attacks that reveal little about the strategic direction of the war." Just three percent of journalists believe that their coverage is too negative. Fifteen percent, however, believe that their reporting actually paints too rosy a picture.

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/progressreport

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:26 AM)

I thought that maybe I was living in some dream world - not the real world that Karl Rove lives in. To check things out, I went in to Lexis Nexis to read about the Summer of 2002 when Congress was forcing Bush to go to war against Iraq. Here is the sort of thing I found - this one from the Albany Times Union:

"Congress returns to work this week with uneasy lawmakers demanding they be formally consulted about any U.S. plan to attack Iraq and insisting the Bush administration provide fuller justification for why it wants to remove Saddam Hussein.
Many lawmakers warn that the White House would be ill-advised to send U.S. troops into battle without the support of Congress.
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who supports ousting Saddam because he "poses a clear and present danger to the United States of America," nonetheless said President Bush "hasn't been making the case" for an invasion.

"The case has not been made in a comprehensive fashion," said McCain, a former Vietnam prisoner of war and member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Bush "has got to lay out the case as to why military action is necessary." he said. "He needs to develop a timetable and speak directly to the people."

The administration's public justification for a possible pre-emptive attack against Iraq has been couched in generalizations and well-known historical data. For example, Cheney last week noted that in the past 14 years, Iraqi forces have invaded Iran and Kuwait; fired ballistic missiles at Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel; pressed ahead with efforts to obtain poison gas, germ warfare agents and nuclear weapons; attempted to assassinate former President George Bush and fired on allied warplanes."

Now we know why Congress' rush to war is an untold story. It didn't happen.

Terry Ballard, Merrick, New York (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:30 AM)

Thank you for the very informative and touching interview with Norman Lloyd. At 93, he was an absolute delight to listen to. He has so much first hand knowledge of the histroy of the filmindustry in Hollwood, the New York stage, the black listing,(Kudos to him for refusing to name names).I can't wait to see this documentary.

And for those of you who haven't seen him in flim I highly recommend the Hitchcock or Dead Poets Society.

I wish you had given Mr. Lloyd an extra segement Keith.

By the way what color are your eyes?

Adelaide,Sunnyvale,CA (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:32 AM)

I can forgive anyone the occasional mispronunciation of someone's name but at something as important as a peace summit you'd think that George W. or someone on his staff would have taken the time to find out how to correctly pronounce the names of the principals. Totally inexcusable.

As to "Doctor" Laura, I think Keith committed a faux pais on the show last night by referring to her as a "radio doctor". A radio show host with a doctoral degree in dance physiology who shrewishly berates people under the guise of giving advice is not a "radio doctor" in my book. The unmitigaged chutzpah of O'Reilly in trying to ram her down the throat of the USO is nothing short of disgraceful. Just send some of her nude pictures to the troops...it's what they really want and they might actually scare the enemy into submission.

And the interview with Norman Lloyd was first rate. It was good to see him again and I hope Keith has him back sometime.

And finally to my pal Pam: always glad to watch your back. Thanks for the kind words!

Samuel, Lincoln, NE (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:34 AM)

K/O:
Heard you & A/Huff. bad mouthing K/Rove today! The two of you together are not half as bright as K/R. Together your not qualified to carry K/R's brief case but when two idiots like yourselves come together you can only defend & agree with each other because nobody else will!
If you and A/H had been around prior or during WWII we would be speaking German or Japanese, and you would still be claiming that you were right!
You & A/H truly don't deserve the protection that "OUR" {not your's} troops are risking their lives for!

Mr. Story
Clyde Story, Santa Ana, CA. (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:52 AM)

Story, you are about the biggest dimbulb to post here this side of Larry Charleston, SC, who occasionally masquerades as Frank from Reno. Keith and Arianna Huffington aren't interested in carrying the briefcase of Karl Rove because of the ungodly stench that must emanate from it. As for intelligence, I'd suggest you keep in mind that it's not Arianna and Keith who are engaging in revisionist history by telling interviewers that Congress wanted to go rush to war in the fall of 2002 against Bush's wishes, despite ample evidence to the contrary in the Congressional Record.

You also have no right to question whether anyone is deserving of protection from OUR (and that includes Olbermann and Huffington) troops. I'm getting real tired of blowhards like you coming on this site and questioning someone else's patriotism just because they dare to criticize the administration. I fought for their right to say what they say when I served in uniform for 23 years bozo...and if you don't like what they say I'd strongly suggest you move. We need fewer dolts like you in the USA.

Samuel, Lincoln, NE (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:45 AM)

UPDATE SAYS O J, COURT SOON.

O J (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:45 AM)

Wow! Wouldn't you just love to spend a whole evening with Norman Lloyd - he probably has a million great stories! I'll definitely look for the movie - thanx Countdown for bringing this to our attention - otherwise this gem may have been overlooked -
Steve from Cedar Falls - I love your quirky take on
everything - please keep up the good work -
Krista, Pam and Laura - you ladies make my day with your wit and wisdom!
Anomaly - I must humbly disagree w/the blue shirt and tie - I think Keith looks fabu in the pink shirt -
you gotta love a man whose secure enough in his masculinity to wear pink!!

Have a great day!

Laura in St. Louis (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:53 AM)

Steve Turner I hadn't thought of Golgi bodies in years!! and now I'm thinking about synaptic gaps, myelin sheaths, Heifitz clips, and the Glasgow coma scale. Oh the memories (nice to know some of that stuff still exists in the gray/white matter).

Thanks

Texashogfan (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:07 PM)

New people will bring you new realizations about important matters ...

Chinese Fortune Cookie (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:10 PM)

NEWS HOLE, COUNTDOWN, MR. OLBERMANN:

FIND MISSING POSTS

POST ALL COMMENTS

UPDATE THE BLOG

WWW.DISGUSTED_AGAIN.COM (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:10 PM)

Kevin, NJ (10:03 AM Post):

When all is said and done Kevin we will find that prior to her announcing her candidacy many had advised Hillary not to run for President. But to no avail as she is a person who tends to listen to her own counsel. She is not Bill Clinton and has shown that on some issues she is even opposed to positions held by Bill Clinton. Because she was already identified in many people's minds as being somewhat divisive and unfavorable it would have taken a master politician to overcome these perceptions and to reshape what people thought of her. She certainly does not have the ability to do this and even with all his political savvy I'm not so sure even Bill can salvage her candidacy. Standing on his own people might believe what he has to say. But standing looking over Hillary's shoulder and speaking for Hillary with her as the centerpiece will not work. Frankly, rather then Bill being of help to Hillary I think his attempts to do so damage his likability and credibility because of her. This may sound like a terrible description of Hillary and these are only my opinions. But the question for Hillary is, how many people have the same opinion?

C A, Tuscaloosa, AL (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:23 PM)

News Hole,

I've submitted a comment three times since yesterday's show, where is it? I just submitted it again, please post it or email me with the reason for not posting it.

Thank you!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:35 PM)

Pamie, since we're hi-liting flip floppers today , please do some extensive research and explain how Bill Clinton was always against the war in Iraq. If for some reason you can't find it , go to any search and find it. Your proclaimed best president in history has proven again that he is a f***ing liar. Congratulations Mr Clinton - does Hillary feel the same way ??? LOL

Larry Charleston, SC (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:36 PM)

News Hole , Please cc me with your response to Pam

Larry Charleston, SC (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:37 PM)

FOURTH ATTEMPT TO POST SINCE YESTERDAY'S SHOW!! NEWS HOLE - PLEASE POST - THREE UPDATES SINCE SUBMISSION!!

#5 - What can we expect from a man whose feet are cemented in is mouth??!!

My personal "favorite" (so far), and yet one more embarrassment to our country, was his "toast" to the Palestinian and Israeli leaders!! Uh, President Stupid, it's against the Islamic faith to drink alcohol!!

Of course you wouldn't know that, as prior to YOUR Iraq War, when many Middle Eastern experts advised you against invading Iraq; warned you of the centuries old religious conflict between the Shia's and Sunni's, to include your own father and Colin Powell; avowed a catastrophic civil war would be the consequence, you stated, "Shia's, Sunni's -- I thought they were all Muslins."

I won’t even give you the benefit of the doubt and state you were in a stupor when you made that imbecilic rejoinder!! Your flagrant mental incapacity, right then and there, was an impeachable offense in my opinion!! It confirmed what I knew all along; you lack all ability to carry out the everyday affairs of your own life or to care for your own person or property with reasonable discretion, let alone “we the people” or run this country!!

You're worldly knowledge is limited to Jim Beam; Jack Daniels; cocaine; DUI’s and cover-ups!!

Take that “toast” you ignorant, uneducated, unaware, uninformed, stupid and evil maggot!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:37 PM)

Larry honey, your obsessing on Pam again; please tell me, are you two having an affair. If so, please buy me the washing machine first and the she or anyone else can have you.

Larry's Wife (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:39 PM)

Txhgfn. Didn't you mean "Ah, the Membranes"? We have to watch what we say or Anomaly will start popping corks, again. All it takes is a little Boolean Unsatisfiability in the wrong place, or possibly a bump on our heads (see the Glasgow Scale),or a bruised Cisternae. Anom. we're sorry if any of this has set you off, OK?...but blame it on Dubya and his Tickle-Tongue Tree habit.

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:41 PM)

Thank you News Hole, and can now discard my third and fourth attempts!!

PEACE!!

Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:43 PM)

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