Countdown Wednesday: Rudy's Sheikhdown

Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:59 PM by Countdown
Filed Under: Blogging the Countdown

Terror Ties: It is a startling and potentially ruinous revelation for Rudolph Giuliani. Our fifth story on the Countdown -- there are countless what-ifs about 9/11. Hundreds of events, maybe thousands of lives, any one of which, if just altered slightly, might have pre-empted the attacks. But this one involves a man identified tonight, as a close business associate of Mr. Giuliani's....A man accused of having harbored in, then helped 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad escape from the Gulf nation of Qatr... hours before the arrival of an FBI arrest team.

Beneath Blackwater: The claim that killing people is part of the Blackwater marketing strategy... And that at least a quarter of the company's mercenaries in Iraq are taking steroids or other judgement altering drugs...The president of the group representing survivors of the Blackwater Massacre in a lawsuit, joins Keith.

ODDBALL: A pigeon and a falcon get funky, a crazy jeep flies away, and an update on the story of a boy and his snake.

Firefighters and the FBI: In Ray Bradbury's vision of a future America, "Firemen" are sent into people's homes to hunt down illegal materials -- namely books -- and destroy them. Hence his choice of the name of his novel - Fahrenheit 451 - the temperature at which paper burns. Our third story on the Countdown, 54 years after that book about anti-intellectualism was published, a disturbing parallel initiated by the Bush Administration. Not in some future America, but right now, here, today.

Tabby Time: Did Marie Osmond really fake that dive in Dancin with the Stars? Don't care? We'll explain.

WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD: E.D Hill of Fox Noise, John Ashcroft and the republican party of Virginia vie for tonight's top honors.

The Truth about Britney: The logical fallacy insists that just because Event A preceded Event B, it does not mean Event A caused Event B. Nevertheless. Two Britney Spears stories tonight -- at least one of them, half-baked. That she was caught trying on lingerie in public...And that she's pregnant. Again, not necessarily a sequence of events -- but what the heck. Our Number One story on the Countdown: Ewwwww, you did it again

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The pre-sale figures of your upcoming book are WONDERFUL, GLORIOUS, and MARVELOUS! Mucho congrats and way to go, Keith! Oh, and thanks for lighting the tree at Rockefeller Center. ;D Oh, and more thanks from us music lovers for NOT piping in Celine Dione.

Comments on the heavy news coming up...

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:11 PM)

OK gang, I'm a professor and used to giving out homework, so our homework assignment, and I'm doing this, too (dammit - I thought I was done with DOING homework), is to submit a message on Mayor Rudy's campaign website - a very short, sweet, and to-the-point message: Rudy, Where’s Your Client List?! Man, I didn't read that whole article earlier; now, I'm going to have to! I'm going to try really REALLY hard not to get my hopes up too high, though. "America's Mayor" will find a way to explain this all away, or he'll just have GW throw Wayne Barrett in Gitmo or some other place in eastern Europe where he'll never be heard from again. The one detail that may actually trip up "the good mayor" is that this information was in the 9/11 Commission Report. OOPS! The devil's in the details, my dear. Give Wayne Barrett the Pulitzer in Journalism RIGHT NOW, and Mr. Barrett, enjoy your lifetime of IRS audits - if you're lucky. If the current Democratic or Republican candidates have a brain or spine in their bodies, they will take this information, run with it, and repeat it ad nauseum on the 'ol campain trail! Get off your collective arses and do something!

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:21 PM)

#3 -- Fahrenheit 451 -- When do people express discontent with the government while their house is burning down? Why would you want firefighters to stop and look at the literature?

Seems like a total waste of money, not to mention the risks Countdown mentioned. To find people expressing discontent, just look here. If you need me for anything, I’ll be packing for Gitmo. Now what happened to those Harry Potter books? Ah, there they are, right under the nerdy romances. Grab my anti-Billo three-piece bathset and I’ll be ready to go.

Political firefighters? The people on this blog, for sure. The hoses are out here, every day. (:

Anomaly (expressing discontent with firefighters who stop to read literature) (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:23 PM)

Marie Osmond -- in that pink dress, looking a little like Rudy crossed with Judy Garland. Somewhere over the rainbow, for sure. But not OZ.

Truth and Consequences -- What color are your eyes on the cover? Seemed pretty blue tonight. (:

WPitW -- Republican loyalty oath -- double oxymoron much?

#1 -- Did you say the father is J.R. Rodent? Makes sense. This whole story makes the case for parenting licenses.

Christmas Tree -- Amazing! You actually sent lightning bolts into the control box BEFORE you touched it. Who knew you had superpowers? (:

Anomaly (always looking for the Emerald City) (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:27 PM)

leve o jae aloane

fears for spears? im' caln my loiyer

Y dont thay put drsing rooms in husselr stors?.

& was it lAURA IN la WHo caled him
<that creepy soup guy?. if im so stupd y do u wach him?.?

TearsForSpears.org (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:30 PM)

Hey Countdown -- I heard a great question on the YouTube republican debate tonight --

The death penalty -- what would Jesus do?

Huckabee -- Jesus was too smart to run for public office.

Tancredo -- I would pray to Him for the wisdom to do the right thing.

My answer? Weep.

Anomaly (thinks Jesus would answer the question) (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:31 PM)

WORSE PERSON IN THE WORLD:

my vote is for True Liberal, the Neo-Con.

How 'bout the rest of you.

Talvenada, Phila., Penna. (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:36 PM)

OOPS! Almost forgot...I loved the baseball story! I was half expecting to hear that Babe Ruth changed into a new pair of pants right there in front of God and everyone. From what I know about "the Babe," he wasn't exactly the bashful type.

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:20 PM)

#1. Hey, Britter is a Neocon, Too, y'know. She can plant pregnancy rumors. I mean Pregnant Britter is, like, more sympathy-inducing, not to mention labor-inducing, than Dysfunctional Britter, though the space between the two is a Gillete blade thick. And the underwear? At least she was trying to wear some. #2. Marie always gets light-headed before Christmas. She has four hundred and fifty-some nieces and nephews to remember. #3. Fahrenheit 911? The temperature at which the glass protecting the Constitution will crack. #4. The French have their Legion of Strangers, Dubya has his American Schutzstaffel. #5.Unnamed sources claim that Pat Robertson vouched for the Sheikh when he, Rudy, and Pat, had dinner at Denny's.

Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:29 PM)

I think I have it figured out, Pam’s ex is a used car salesman in San Francisco! He probably jettisoned her after around three years. lmaorof

scott henderson nv (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:18 PM)

Countdown: Re Bill Clinton's flipflopping on how he would have started the war with Iraq, you neglected reminding viewers that he flew down to Washington from Cape Cod vacation (during the Lewinsky scandal), and authorized the attack on the pharmaceutical factory in Iraq, then flew back to his vacation. How irresponsible was that?

Ann Wood, Charlottesville, VA (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:32 AM)

David Molinero (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:59 AM)

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/ratings_as_a_weapon_in_the_cable_news_battles_71773.asp

Nielsen has yet to release any ratings for the new business network (Fox).

David Molinero (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:14 AM)

#5..this is the worst. Rudy accepting blood money. Even if he "might" not have known what he does now. Deplorable. There is alot I can say about this latest expose of Rudy, but I don't know all I should. I made a copy of the article to get myself up on it, but I will say his association with this sheikh whose family member harbored Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, the brains behind 9/11, by accepting the $3M, and my not being a lawyer, doesn't this make him an accessory to something? I just want to know, "if" Rudy didn't know the sheikh's connection to Al-Quaeda or the FBI and CIA knowledge of this, at some point he knew and why didn't he give back the money? Too many ties? Hiding information? I hope the article will answer this question.

#4..so now we have a bunch of mercenaries all drugged up in Iraq..great..and this administration does nothing about it? I hope these lawsuits ruin Blackwater..damn them.

#3..wow, nothing but more "good" news. This administration wants to make snitches of us all. Even our civil and public servants. Who's next..phone company employees, cable guys, plumbers? Fahrenheit 451 is one of my favorite movies and one of the scariest.

WPitW..was shocked that E.D. Hill made the list. That she would make a faux paux on Faux News is something I've never seen her do. I guess she's finally acquired the Fox speak.

and..the tree lighting show was fabulous..even though Keith's timing was a little off. Beautiful nonetheless.

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:19 AM)

This country is getting scarier by the minute.

All the revelations about Blackwater and what's Congress doing? Not much. I'm sure that Eric Prince is getting regular checks for his lavish federal contracts. And not one person in Blackwater anywhere near being held accountable. Nice message to the world. We can kill you citizens with our highly paid mercenaries and you can't do anything about it. And the only thing that the United States will do is send Blackwater more money and award them more contracts.

Firefighters reporting people unhappy with this country? That's 76% of the population - the remaining 24% have been so addled by NeoConNutJob propaganda that they no longer trust their own eyes and ears if Rush and BillO tell them to believe differently. Additional firefighters to actually battle a blaze will be needed since the rest of them will be reporting the rest of us as terrorist suspects. Firefighters have plenty to do already - you think they wouldn't report bomb making activities without a "law" telling them to snoop when they enter a home?

Just how long did Guliani think he could supress his smelly past? On September 10, 2001 he couldn't have been elected as garbage collector. Our hiding president and Rudy's destroyed command center (which he stupidly put in the World Trade Center) put him front and center in front of the media which was hungry for pictures for the TV machine.

An image was born. But NOT a leader. Follow that with millions of dollars giving speeches rather than attending 9/11 Commission meetings, and a propaganda machine that lives on symbols rather than substance and Rudy started believing his own BS.

The ooze of Kerik, Rudy's phoney "leadership" creditentials, his history of dictatorial mayoral rule, his flip-flops, his marriages and affairs .... all coming out. It's bad when even your kids can't stand you. He doesn't have skeletons in his closet - he has whole graveyards.

Please .... NO MORE Brittany. I don't care if she gives birth to septuplets who are born already wearing designer clothes. NO MORE. Enough already. No Paris either unless it's the one in France. And no OJ either - unless it's the kind squeezed from oranges. I have enough trouble with demented people in control of the government without contending with demented celebrities.

Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:28 AM)

so... we dont get to hear or see the blackwater story from today. neither on the podcast, nor on the video. but, once again, the britney story is readily available. charming. i find the "accidental" censorship of the substantive stories from the show here to be rather infuriating. actually, it happens a little too often to be "accidental."

Mike D (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:38 AM)

I agree with you that Bill-O is an A-hole and doesn't have a worthwhile thing to say; but seriously, Keith, sometimes you get a little shrill. Give yourself a break. I watch your show every chance I get.

Mike Williams, Macon, Georgia (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:59 AM)

Mike Williams, Macon, Georgia (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:00 AM)

Huffington Post Thursday..Who's Got the Foreign Policy Experience We Need?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-rice/whos-got-the-foreign-pol_b_74535.html

Laura in Los Angeles (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:48 AM)

Dear Newshole, are blog updates ending now after 4:45pm or so? If this is the case, it is terribly unfair to those of us who have to wait until after the workday, in order to post our responses. Please go back to moderating and updating this blog in a somewhat timely manner. Thank you!

LT in MD (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:24 AM)

Mr. Olbermann, you are great. I have been watching you probably since you first started Countdown. I love your "Special Comments". You are so good! What is with these democrats? Ya think they will have enough sense to use Rudie's murky, lurky past against him if he turns out to be the Republican candidate? I'm getting everyone I know registered to vote here in Ft. Worth so we can get these creeps out of office and get back to working on some AMERICAN problems.

Judy Hendricks, Fort Worth, Texas (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:43 AM)

Gee, what a suprise. Rudy, Mr. 9-11, kissing up to a terrorist enabler just to make a few million bucks. Is there no one a Republican will walk away from as long as there is money involved. Bet this will play well in Peoria.
It's nice to see Dubya coopting fire departments now to do some more of his inept dirty work for him. Considering that his approval ratings are in the twenties I guess that means that over seventy percent of the American population can now be accused of expressing discontent and are in jeopardy of being reported. I'm glad that Keith's guest thinks that the fourth amendment is still somewhat intact. I can't remember any search and seizure cases that have gone against the police since Roberts and Alito went to the bench. They have pretty much eliminated probable cause and have inserted a policeman's "instincts". Bet that makes all those colored folk down here in the South real comfortable. I wouldn't mind so much if one of the requirements of politics was swearing to support the common welfare but altruism is not a factor in politics. It's all about ambition.

gator,stuart,fl (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:16 AM)

Saw the Republican debate last night. Giuliani and Romney were terrible. Giuliani's attack against Romeny for the illegals working on a crew at the Governor's Mansion was ludicrist and childish. Romney's inability to answer the water board torture question was actually booed. Both are as superficial as they come. McCain looked disgusted with all of them, but can't define what wining in Iraq really means. He states the troops he has visited tell him "let us win". I'll agree, but McCain fails to realize although the troops are to be commended for their desire to win, no one has given them a specific objective that once achived they can say they have won. Paul was ok but looks like a little mouse with a squeaky voice. And he needs to present more specific facts during the debates as to why Iraq is still a mess (he still generalizes which hurts his cause). Thompson acts somewhat condescending and lacks a real grip on the issues (over-generalizes everything). I liked Huckabee. Don't agree with all his positions but seems to be the only honest guy up there, and at least he appears to have a sense of humor.

C A, Tuscaloosa, AL (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:47 AM)

I hope this Rudy story catches on, but what really bothers me is that if by some chance Rudy DID get elected, he would have his own "private security" company? Sounds like he would have his own secret police. I do not trust this guy with the powers of the Presidency.

Leslie Milholland (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:28 AM)

If I had a nickle for every "potentially ruinous" story on rudy, I could afford to run for office. This guy seems slipperier than a hagfish, at least in the primary.

jen,il (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:34 AM)

#5-um......WOW! I read the article yesterday and was just amazed that Rudy has made it this far! I mean, how can this man expect to become president? I felt sick after hearing the part about him using taxpayer money to entertain his current wife, while still married to his second wife. The man blatantly cheats on his spouse, and uses tax dollars to fund it...how on earth could anyone trust him to run this country, and have the country's best interest in mind?

#4-Also amazing! This whole Blackwater thing has just been a nightmare. It is a shameful part of our country's history. The steroids issue is just absolutely insane. I mean-our Congress/Senate care so much about whether Barry Bonds is taking steroids, and who is supplying MLB players with steroids...yet no one lookds carefully at a private company we are sending to a nation we invaded to see what if any drug use may be used???? What are we electing people to do?

#3-This is really really really really scary! Listened to Rachel Maddow yesterday and the gentleman on her show made the point (and Keith may have made it to...but it was in the middle of this segment that I fell asleep (fighting off the flu)) that if Firefighters can look around your house and see if anything looks suspicious, people are not going to call the fire department...which will lead to more damage.
I think that the Bush administration needs to have a reminder of who pays his salary...and that he works for US!

Side note-did anyone watch the debate last night? I caught the last little bit of it, right when the question about Rudy cheering for the Red Sox to win the World Series came up. I think it is just SO cute that this is a big issue for the republicans. Wonder if they blow bubbles in their milk while swinging their legs and discussing who will count while they play hide and seek. COME ON! THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF...AND BASEBALL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

Sarah, Tucson, AZ (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:45 AM)

"A closed mind sees nothing, and yet knows everything. "
-- Unknown

There are 418 days until the end of this regime on 1/20/2009
There are 403 days until the end of this Congress on 1/5/2009 ???
There are 341 days until election day -- 11/4/2008

The first Caucus/Primary hasn't happened yet! Evaluate ALL the candidates and think wisely before you vote.
And we are counting down.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:59 AM)

Oh, and add Hillary plants at hte Republican debate. Great job, liberals. Maybe instead of cancelling your next debate because of boredom, why not have it and let Republicans ask the questions. Guaranteed to provide excitement and get answers to questions never asked of Hillary by the liberals. 08 is going to be fun, Queen Hillary is making er mark!

Larry Charleston, SC (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:59 AM)

Keith Olbermann mentioned last night that he was going to have a guest on this evening to talk about the boat loads of money people are making in this country off of wars and hurricanes, etc. Everyone is getting rich at the expense of millions of us. It’s a story that needs to be paid attention to. To me, this gets to the heart of exactly what has happened to America.

Patriotism doesn’t mean being a war monger or war profiteer. It doesn’t mean getting rich at the expense of the misfortunes of others.

Patriotism is supposed to mean striving for excellence in everything we do as a citizen of America.

What I see going on in this country is a crime.

American Citizen, Anywhere, USA (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:05 AM)

Keith, I really like your news program but please, NO MORE BRITTANY. She is NOT news. Live up to your profession and give us the news that an informed public should hear.
Thanks. And keep up the (mostly) excellent work.

Dina Pearlman, Cooper City, Florida (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:19 AM)

While most men don't necessarily mind being sexually harrassed, it is still harrassment until you get permission.

jen,il (Sent Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:23 PM)

Harrass me! Please!! While we're celebrating the 25th anniversary of Thriller, who remembers another tune from the era, Leon Redbone's "I Want To Be Seduced"....

D. Oldman, Pornotopia, CA (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:30 AM)

Rudy Giuliani, another shining example of the hypocrisy shown by the Party of "national security" and "family values."

junebug (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:33 AM)

It finally hit me why Pammie is so bitter - Queen Noor! Pammie thinks she should be Queen of Jordan. She was snubbed by His Majesty and the result is pure hatred.

Thank goodness the King had better sense,hte middle east would never be the same!

Larry Charlesron, SC (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:46 AM)

An interesting and relatively short article, it's worth reading.

Bush's Next Preemptive Strike

By Harold Meyerson
Thursday, November 29, 2007; Page A25

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/28/AR2007112802050.html

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:14 AM)

Ewwwww, you did it again -- now please stop.

Could some one please explain to me who among Countdown's staff or audience cares about Britney and her uterus? No one I know does.

After yesterday's really nice story on Norman Lloyd, you follow up with a twit update? Could you please fire the staffer that keeps urging this crap?

If I wanted to keep up on Trailer Trash bimbos I wouldn't be watching Countdown, I'd be watching Entertainment Tonight. The only reason I stayed for the last "story" was to see the Tree Lighting in Rockefeller Center, after that I turned if off.

Carol, Long Valley NJ (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:25 AM)

#5 - This was like reading Craig Unger's House of Bush, House of Saud again, but I suspect the bit about security for Giuliani's trips to the Hamptons will get more attention since it doesn't require much intellect to grasp.

#4 - The notion that you can form your own private army in America is frightening enough. That the U.S. government would then hire a private army boggles the mind. Apparently, we're fighting warlords with our own warlords. We just call them contractors and businessmen.

#3 - Fahrenheit 451, the book they no longer teach where I went to high school. They don't teach 1984 anymore either. In fact, anything that presents a negative utopia has been eliminated from the reading list. After seeing this story, I'm wondering if maybe it's because this genre is no longer considered fiction.

HM, in an ivory tower somewhere (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:57 AM)

This is a Major Announcement!

The government today announced that it is changing its emblem from an Eagle to a CONDOM because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance.
A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed!
TaDa!

This message is brought to you by the "Un Seniors Organization" that never had "any stinkin badges " and don't want em either.

B. A. Buddusky (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:00 PM)

Love the new set and website, but I can't find transcripts anywhere. Sometimes I need them to look up a website or other info KO mentioned in a story.
BTW, Rudy sure likes being around men in dresses (drag queens and Arab sheikhs). Has anyone looked into this? Me thinks he may have some deepseated Mommy or Daddy issues.
Peace!

April Null, Salisbury, MD (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:01 PM)

"So what if the president has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the presidency, has betrayed his trust as president and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people in the United States? That's an awful lot to dismiss with a brush-off, to ignore with a mere 'So what?'"

The words of the Henry Hyde, the former Congressman from IL who passed away last night, attempting to defend his role in leading the House efforts to impeach President Bill Clinton.

If those feelings were applicable and defensible then, what about now?

Buck, Wye Mountain, AR (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:04 PM)

Immortal Cougar, et al: In the interest of civility and political correctness I propose that bloggers here should stop refering to Larry and others on the right as, rednecks, hillbillies, crackers, sfb's, or pos's.
I propose in the future they should be described by the more generic term SOUTHERN HIGHLANDER.
Even though Larry now resides in Charleston S.C. his posts reveal him to be a SOUTHERN HIGHLANDER through and through. I'd bet money that he (and others here) have relatives (aren't they all related?) that had roles as locals in Deliverence.

Bill Rochester NY (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:20 PM)

Sarah, Tucson, AZ (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:45 AM)

You obviously didn't see the whole debate. They dealt with many substantive issues such as illegal immigration, Iraq war, etc. Plus they had to dodge another Clinton plant. These people will do anything to get in office. A word of warning to Obama, the Clinton machine is going to try to destroy you, so be prepared. But don't criticize her, God forbid!!!

Kevin of NJ (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:31 PM)

Talvenada in Philly: How about Larry in Charleston and Scott in Henderson for WPITW? They have both demonstrated repeatedly that they are both lacking any redeeming characteristics.

Bill Rochester NY (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:38 PM)

B. A. Buddusky (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:00 PM)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's GREAT!

Sarah, Tucson, AZ (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:46 PM)

Bill Rochester NY: A less inflammatory term would certainly ease the pressure. Highlander is not bad. Another possibility, Darwinian Deviation. Re: movie roles: only cameos as livestock. Cheerio!

gator,stuart,fl (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:49 PM)

TearsForSpears.org 9:30 PM..your last paragraph, what are you talking about?? Who are you talking about? and whatever I'm supposed to have said, I don't think I said it. Please clarify.

Laura..with a big ?? mark..in Los Angeles (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:01 PM)

Kevin of NJ (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:31 PM)

I wasn't saying that the whole debate was like that. I went back and recapped this morning, I was just really surprised that youtube and cnn allowed that question. It has no political significance (to me), and I know many people that are loyal to their league if their team gets knocked out of the playoffs, or doesn't make the playoffs at all; I just thought that was how baseball fans were I guess.
I know that many important issues were discussed and I enjoyed watching the responses given by the candidates. I don't get the opporutnity to watch too many debates, but enjoyed last night's.

I was really surprised by Huckabee's performance.

Sarah, Tucson, AZ (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:19 PM)

Just Wondering (East of the Continental Divide, east of the rockies) --

I’m not sure what you’re really wondering about John Gibson, but I thought it might be helpful to look at a couple of items that highlight why some people find Mr. Gibson’s opinions objectionable. This first link even has the picture that Mr. Olbermann generally uses when talking about Mr. Gibson.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605120006

In this piece, Mr. Gibson urges white Americans to “do their duty” and have more babies because, if they don’t, in 25 years Hispanics will be the majority. This pretty much speaks for itself. In the second piece, Gibson declares that the White House deserves a medal for outing Valerie Plame. I’m sure you’ll agree that all secret agents, either real or imagined, should be outraged by Mr. Gibson’s cavalier attitude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4nw-AG3-2U&eurl=thinkprogress.org/

“Just Wondering.” No need to wonder. If you want to know, just ask. People here are always happy to help. Really. Important things NEVER change. (:

Anomaly (somewhere east of the sun -- and the Rockies -- and west of the moon) (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:21 PM)

Harrass me! Please!! While we're celebrating the 25th anniversary of Thriller, who remembers another tune from the era, Leon Redbone's "I Want To Be Seduced".... D. Oldman, Pornotopia, CA (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:30 AM)

D. -- Is this a limited offer, or can we all participate? And by the way, where is Pornotopia, anyway? Sounds abundant.

Anomaly (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:25 PM)

Even though Larry now resides in Charleston S.C. his posts reveal him to be a SOUTHERN HIGHLANDER through and through. I'd bet money that he (and others here) have relatives (aren't they all related?) that had roles as locals in Deliverence.
Bill Rochester NY (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:20 PM)

Interesting point, Bill. Do my posts reveal me to be a SOUTHERN HIGHLANDER? I am in fact a third generation flatlander, but I flatter myself a pretty classy one. As for Larry, I've done about all I can do to rehabilitate his image. I think I'm gonna give him my brother's e-mail address. Rednecks need people to talk to, and they'd get along like fightin' fire, as we say in the knobs. (And nope, in spite of drinking a lot of moonshine and the occasional out-of-season poaching trip, none of my relatives even knew folks did such things as the trogs in DELIVERANCE did.)

Immortal Cougar (Proud Hillbilly descendent of Proud Hillbillies) (Sent Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:38 PM)

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Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:59 PM by Countdown
Filed Under: Blogging the Countdown