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Countdown Thursday: Lying to War

Posted: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:30 PM by Countdown
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The Incredibles, Part 2:  Revelation of the Bush Administration's deceit about Iraq came too late. Too late to save a nation from the wrong war, in the wrong place, at the wrong time. Too late to save thousands of its sons and daughters, from death on a useless battlefield. But in our fifth story on the Countdown: revelation of the Bush Administration's deceit about Iran may have come just in time. And its loss of skill in wriggling out of perfidy never more evident than today... As a third attempt to explain the discrepancies about Irahn... managing only to entangle the president -- and top officials -- even further.

Lying to War: Even before the White House revealed that President Bush's honesty about the NIE... depends on what the meaning of "information" is... At least four CIA veterans knew he was full of it. And so did a former staffer on Mr. Bush's National Security Council. In our fourth story, we will speak with that man in just a minute. But first, the CIA veterans calling out Mr. Bush include Ray McGovern, who briefed Mr. Bush's father every day... and knows exactly what kind of information the president gets.

ODDBALL: A crazy wedding dance and robotic violins...genius!
 
Romney's Religion SpectacularIn a seminal speech in 1960, the national candidate for the Democratic party, John F. Kennedy, told the nation why his Catholicism wouldn't interfere with his responsibility as President.. Explaining that he believed religion was a private matter...That separation of Church and State should be absolute... That his presidential decisions should be made without regard to any outside religious pressure.. Tonight, in our third story on the Countdown, a shameful self-comparison to the 35th President by a man who did not advocate that separation, nor say that privacy was sacrosanct in religion, nor insist that you have as much right not to believe, as he does to believe. Willard Mitt Romney.

Tabby Time: Briefly Keeping Tabs tonight... the possibility of Senator Larry Craig: The movie. It hasn't quite come to that yet... but it's getting close.

WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD: Joe Klein of Time, Glenn Beck and the large headed Fox Noise host vie for tonight's top honors.

Keith's Special Comment: See this Post...it's a good one. 

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if we look into it further,we need to ask ourselves one ? . IS IT ALL ABOUT THE OIL ? .think about it' what is driving the price of oil so high. FEAR, FEAR and FEAR ,keep the middle east unstable or lie about it. i mean take the fear out of the middle east how far will the oil prices fall ? ( i don't know but i'm sure at least about $25 to $30 maybe.
“Oh, what a tangled web we weave…” Was Dana Perino the blond in mind when blond jokes were created?

The excerpts on tonight's show are the most I’ve heard of Mitt’s speech today. This "performance" was freakin’ scary!! I think maybe the MSM thought there were going to be all these Mormon “revelations” or that this “performance” would be comparable to JFK’s; the MSM was obviously hosed BIG TIME!

I WANT TO SEE MAYOR RUDY’S MARRIAGE SPEECH!!

Oh Keith, isn't it too bad that the new book is "in the can" already?! This administration will be the gift that keeps on giving. You may have to release a "Part Deux" before it's all said and done!
Keeping Tabs -- Rarely has politics and entertainment been mixed so attractively.  I always knew you could do it.  George Clooney and Brad Pitt in a bathroom stall.  Nothin’ more to say.  Thanks for the much appreciated treat.  (:

WPitW--

Bend it like Billo -- the truth, that is.  

Glenn Beck -- it will all be a joke tomorrow, Countdown.   Just wait for it.
Powerful Special Comment this evening, Keith. I only wish your anger would dig a little deeper.

We all know how Bush is either the marionette or a moron, and venting the frustration can be exhausting. However, shouldn't the investigation behind his blatant stupidity and refusal to represent the people dig deeper?

We need Special Comments exposing the tremendous influence Israel and Saudi Arabia have over our policies. We need Special Comments about how Hillary and Obama are not the solution to these problems, only players that keep the fake left/right dispute going. We need Special Comments about people like David Rockefeller, Norman Podhoertz, Henry Kissinger, and all the criminal "insiders" who steer foreign policy through groups like the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg.

Or... We can just keep recycling our outrage and directing it towards one stooge, who clearly is just a flapping puppet on a stage. There is far more to these lies and war crimes than just one silver-spoon fed, fake cowboy.  
loved the special comment tonight and the show as usual.  I think, however, Brit Hume should have made the worst persons list tonight.  On special report they had segment on the Clinton/Obama e-mail thing and in the segment Hume remark Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ and was never a Muslim, as far as we know. I guess Obama can't taken at his word that he is a Christian.
Jeepers....there goes PEACE & LOVE down the terlet.  PUD Laguna Niguel CA (Sent Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:28 PM)

Hey backwater boy -- don’t flush too fast.  Maybe you’re just looking in the wrong direction.  Jeepers?  Is that Scout talk?  Golly, molly.
This pathetic excuse for an U.S Citizen(Keith Olbermann) should be taken off the airwaves.  His ranting and ridiculous comments are an embarrassment to MSNBC.  I hope he realizes how factless and stupid his comments are.  He is a Coward and will never be man enough to have an intelligent debate on issues.  He doesn't know JACK and all of you who support him are just as pathetic.
Thanks again to Keith for telling it the way it is and to MSNBC for allowing it. Bush & Cheney do not belong in the WH. Where is Congess?
That Benedick, he's kinda a... d*ck. Beatrice got some issues too. Guess they's just trying to work things out like everyone else. I was avoidin texas but texas werent avoidin me. somethin about an old warrant. glad the prison library got the internets DT Oldman, Flatirony, TX (Sent Thursday, December 06, 2007 4:59 PM)

The way you describe Benedick sounds a lot like some other guy out here -- what a coincidence.  But he wasn’t so bad, you know.  He always knew how to be a friend.  Beatrice had her issues, for sure, but sooner or later, she learned how to appreciate what mattered.  We could all learn from them.

Prison?  I’m sure you were framed.  I’ll bet that striped suit looks good on you.  But knowing you, I’ll bet you won’t be there long.  When you get out, don’t forget to drop a postcard.  If you spot me at Aunt Ornery’s one of these days, be sure to say hello.  Maybe I can get those Murtha lyrics there.  
Keith -- Thank you so much for speaking truth to the powers that (have no right to) be. You've spoken for me and many others tonight.  

I only wish that Messrs. Bush and Cheney had the dignity to respond honorably and leave office NOW.  
Allspice (Sent Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:37 PM)

I hope you don’t mind my thanking you.  You saved me from myself eloquently and gracefully, for which I will always be grateful.  

Hooray for Keith, if only more, even just one more commentator was as truthful. MSNBC is to be commended for the courage to allow the truth to be said in plain English on at least Keith's show. Bravo indeed. More, more please. By the way, can we impeach the little lying, murderous bush worm yet?
I don't think this nation has seen such a lily livered or corrupt bunch of politicians as we now see on the Republican side of the house. None of them the shame or backbone to stand up and say "STOP this corruption and cronyism" and do the job they swore to do - support our Constitution and Bill of Rights.  These men are nothing less than cowardly traitors and do not know the meaning of patriotism.  No it is not a "Support the Troops" sticker on your car and a US flag lapel pin.  We should be ashamed to call them Americans these accessories to the Bush crime family. Roll on January 2009 when hopefully most or all of them can skulk of to some foreign sewer where they belong.
Keith,
For anybody who didn't watch your whole show tonight, missed a once in a lifetime event.

I hope you survive after tonight.  I'm with you all the way. You're doing right to bring out the truth of what this administration has done, so that  every American knows about it.  
If the truth awakens the people, that's good, but there will be many who trusted this administration,
hurting as more of the truth comes out.      
A whole great big show without dumb celebrity antics interruption.

Dana Perino, the latest in a long line of lying shills fronting for a lying administration.  I hope they're paying her big bucks - I could never stand up and spew that BS with a straight face.

Romney is NOT John F. Kennedy.  His well-touted speech didn't envolk Kennedy.  It was more shameless pandering to the lunatic fundamentalists.  With the sound off, it could have been Iranian President I'mMadInTheHead addressing his lunatic followers.

Freedom is NOT a gift from God.  It is something that we have to fight for every day as this shameless administration tries to pry it out of our hands.

Thanks for the Special Comment.  The best one yet in my most humble opinion.
Dear Keith:
You really seem to be getting under the skin of all the conservatitve republicans, especially Bill O, Glen Beck, and all the boys at the Fox brainwashing broadcasting network.
Thank you very much, and I love your work.

Sincerly,

David A. Burch
Lexington, KY
Tonights Keith Olbermann's show was the best I have ever seen. Thanks for telling the facts.
Keith is right about Bush and Cheney. They are lying cowards, filthy manipulating perverters of freedom and justice. We must impeach them to restore our national honor. Bush and Cheny should spend time in Guantanamo.
I would love to see one of our so called representatives, our protectors, or if not one of them, maybe even someone in the White House have the guts to respond to your statements on camera.
#1. Just one word. 'Right On!"...OK, two words. #2. Is Larry gonna star in the remake of, "The Boys In The Band"? #3. Wouldn't it be a lot easier if every person in the USA had his or her own religion, so people wouldn't have to suck up to whatever denomination had convinced them that all the other denominations were cults? #4. Obviously, the only voice Dubya hears, other than Cheney and his swear words, is the Voice of his God, which is obviously another cult. #5. After this, I finally have to agree with my neighbor. Danny Bonaduce would be a better President than Dubya.
Hey Kieth, always watch ur show!!! You R dead on about Romneys speech. Saw mostly praise for it elsewhere
Special Comment was the clear light starved for by hundreds of millions to confirm that the 'King has no clothes', his bonifide is impeached, bold faced liar.  Did you see Bush's face, body language when he knew the media and American people were seeing through his lies?  
    What Bush says and does is not only weak -
    It's TOO WEAK!  

And tonight was extra beautiful because Keith stood-up for the people, for truth to power and against a big fat lie.  Let's Impeach these fascist now!  Maybe they'll all resign or we'll kick em out before the holidays - whata gift - Peace on Earth.  
It doesn't matter if you, I, Conservs, Publicans or even Neo-Cons are for or against War w/ Iran.

It doesn't matter if intell is accurate or wrong.

It doesn't matter what Dem Candidates, Mitt, Ron, Rudy, Fred, John or Huck think.

ONLY Darth Vader's know-for-a-fact thinking will factor in Bushie Boy's decision to mini-nuke those evil doers in Iran by this Spring.

The Dems and Congress will not disgrace America w/ an impeachment of both of them, and they know it.  They know that Dems don't want to be accused of getting even for Clinton.  Republics will back them no matter what.  The MSM will not dare, other than KO, attack them, and they know it.  They feel that once Iran retaliates by attacking our forces in Iraq it will be too late.  Then, they force congress to pass laws to clear them of wrong doing, like w/ the NSA.  WWIII starts by April, and they know it.  They have Iran as the fall guy, an all mouth fall guy--and they know it.

Your opinion, this blog, Neo-Cons spreading the good cheer of their flawless logic and KO's voice won't even dent their place in history.

Laugh if you want, but do it now while you still can.
#3..Mitt Romney is shameful..no doubt. His attempt to give a speech about his religion like JFK did in 1960 was something I resent deeply. JFK's speech was at a different time, when there was no pandering to the religious right, when a candidate didn't have to adjust his beliefs in the hopes of not offending  same. Mitt Romney's speech was all about that, not that he wanted people to know him better. His agenda was out in left field. To say that if he was President, he wasn't going to let religion dictate any of his decisions, is laughable. JKF meant every word he said..Mitt Romney doesn't. He is a flip flopper, liar and he better just quit while he's ahead.
Huffington Post Thursday: Meeting the Iranian Challenge by Joe Biden

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-biden/meeting-the-iranian-chall_b_75628.html?view=screen
Another swing over the fence for Keith.
I was fliping though the channels a while back and saw your special comment on water boarding. I've been watching your show each day since. The last time I saw this much truth on television I was a young man and Tommy Smothers was ranting about his contract and was taken off the air. As boldly as you have spoken about President Bush, Dennis Kucinich has done the same on the floor of Congress about Vice President Cheney. I'd like to see you do a special report on those who have stood up to this administration like Dennis Kucinich and Joe Bidden. It seems as if the media is trying to decide who our next president will be and we need men like you to speak up for us and give these guys a shot or we are doomed!
I loved Keith Oberman's comments about Bush and Cheney and their lies about Iran.  Finally, someone is calling this administration on their stupidity and ineptness in foreign policy.  Three cheers for Keith.
Keith Olbermann's piece 'Sir, you are a lier', was a masterpiece in journalism.  Keep up the truth telling until the liers get their just desserts.  
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Dear Countdown/Mr. Olbermann:

I wanted to take a moment to tell you how much I have enjoyed Countdown in the past.  I've always found it a fresh take on the news, and a great counter-balance to FoxNews (which, my father, until his passing in 2005, was a rabid fan of).  

My only comment/concern is only that in recent months, it's started to feel a little like the "Pick on FOX" show...Believe me, there's no love lost for Bill-O and the gang.  But it gets kind of tiresome to see him on the Worst list every night.  Frankly, he's just not that important anymore, and he and his ilk have become increasingly marginalized as the true nature of the network has become more apparent.

Love the show, keep up the good work.  :)
Without George Bush and Bill o'Reilly you would not have a show . Who will you find to hate come next November?  Like it or not Bush is our president and certainly deserves more respect than you find necessary to afford him.  
Dear Keith,

As usual, your special comments were dead-on target, although they will, of course, be dismissed by the Bush apologist crowd.  It is truly distressing to know that so many people have so little regard for truth and honesty that they refuse to hold this President accountable for his dishonest, unethical, and (dare I say it) CRIMINAL actions.  

I'll purchase your new book as soon as I have the funds to do so.  Thanks for continuing to be the voice for people who DO value such things as honesty and integrity, especially in our government officials, and for your courage in delivering of the harsh criticism to those officials who are anything BUT honest and ethical.

Susan Levine
Dale City, VA
MEMO:  

TO:  Keith Olbermann
In RE:  Special Comment, December 6, 2007

Bravo, sir.  I am speechless.
Keith is the ONLY journalist that actually tells the truth... MSNBC should dump Tucker, he's a republican shill, and give Keith 2 hours!
Thank you so much, Keith, for keeping on top of this Iran/NIE story and the timeline.  I applaud you, Sir!
Thanks for exposing the TRUTH!  One of the most important things you said:  Bush isn't trying to scare Iran.  He is trying to scare US.  He played on our fear after 9/11 to get his war in Iraq which we now know was based on false pretenses.  Thanks for pushing back Keith!
Never watching your show, but reading your posts and the lunacy on here by the hate filled left actually makes my day. First, I think every liberal on here needs to state publically that Iran is not a threat to anyone. Repeat after Keith and Pam - Iran is a threat to no one. Again , please state that their affirmation to eliminate Israel is just Mahmoud being a jokester. And then admit to have stopped their goal of obtaining nuclear weapons in 2003, meant they were working to meet that goal. And lastly, please say out loud that Jimmy Carter and the Iranian hostage crisis was a misunderstanding, we should not have been there in the first place.  

Secondly, when talking about lying about the Iraq War. please include all of the liberals who had the same intelligence and voted for the war, Obviously they were liars also, or maybe they are dumber than Bush?? And along those lines, those bright intel guys that brought you the Iraq war are the same ones that put out the latest NIE. Can we trust those bastards now???

Go ahead Keith and bash Romney. You have always made fun of religious people. What you failed to mention was that JFK wasn't squeaky clean like you want us to believe. Mafia, sexual escapades, Brother Robert wiretapping Martin Luther King. WHAT??  Kennedy wiretapping?? Those bastards infringing on the rights of MLK? What happened to the Constitution in 1960?? By the way, ask the other Morman, Harry Reid, to explain his thoughts and how he sees the Morman religion in his life. Doubt you will do that.

And finally, how about a little something about Hillary's campaign in Iowa calling Barry Huesien Obama a Muslim. Is he? What are his beliefs? How will being a Muslim affect his decisions in Iraq and Iran? Being a Muslim, can he take the presidential oath?

And Hillary, being co president - did she write Don't ask Don't tell? Can she be honest and answer any questions? Is she a lesbian as has been stated on this website? Why doesn't Keith promote the democratic party candidates? Nothing good to say about them? Or if he tells the truth about them could it be that no one would vote for them except the 15 people that comprise his viewing audience.

Just a few random thoughts on this beautiful Friday morning. Merry Christmas and may God Bless !  Oops - I forgot where I was , I can't say that on here !
#5

Enough is enough Keith!

Why all the surprise and gotcha's regarding the  actions of GWB? All of the misguided, errant and cover-up actions of this administration were foretold before GWB was ever elected President. The incompetence of this person and complete lack of ability to successfully hold the office of the Presidency was clear, VERY CLEAR, during his first campaign for the Presidency. I sometimes wonder if our anger is misplaced. GWB is no more or less incompetnent then he was before becoming President. He has just had to try harder to cover up the incompetnence as time has passed by. The fact is the angrier I become at Bush's incompetence the angrier I become with those who voted for and elected him in the first place. You had to be living in a cave with no means of communication not to see the total lack of competency in that first campaign. I'll say this, even Bush Senior and GWB's mother knew, yes knew, that their son did not have the management and leadership skills to be President yet they were right there giving him all their support. Bashing Bush is not going to change this administration. He was incompentent and will remain incompetent until he leaves office. And if impeachment were in order who is truly the guilty one here, GWB or the American people who elected him in the first place? Electing Bush as President was like forcing your child who has no atheletic ability at all to play soccer or football or baseball. Because the youngster makes errors and fails as an athelete it is the child's fault? Yep, the American people elected a child they should have known and recognized had no management or leadership ability, and one I would bet is even functioning mentally and emotionally at a child's level. So let's impeach and ostracize the child. Sorry Keith, I am getting a little tired of your tirades against GWB. And although Bush is not compleltely without fault here it's time we started taking responsibility for selecting incompentence because we knew or should have known the person we elected did not have a single atheletic bone in his body. I am just tired of all the whining about Bush and the bashing of Bush (does not remove the fact he is incompetent) instead of the American people taking responsibility for placing a 10 year old behind the wheel of a Nascar speed machine.      

Keith:
Your comments about the liar Bush were just at the right time for many Americans. Your next assignment should you choose to tackle the biggest project of your LIFE is to demand Congress to IMPEACH the Bush
liars as a group. Thy this assignment and you will be a national HERO. I will continue to support you and your network sponsors. Thanks for you balls.
Charles  
"A closed mind sees nothing, and yet knows everything. "
-- Unknown

There are 410 days until the end of this regime on 1/20/2009
There are 395 days until the end of this Congress on 1/5/2009 ???
There are 333 days until election day -- 11/4/2008

The first Caucus/Primary hasn't happened yet!  Evaluate ALL the candidates and think wisely before you vote.
And we are counting down.
Off topic from last night, but a story broken by the NEW YORK TIMES has been confirmed that the CIA destroyed video taped evidence of "interrogation techniques" used on "high value" terror suspects. The tapes were made in 2002 and destroyed in 2005.

Keith, you're going to be all over this like white (or brown) on rice tonight, right?
Here's a link to the CIA story I mentioned earlier:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071207/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_videotapes
Keith,
I just watched your DHS segment. Everything that they do is about money. No Child left benind(selling tests and books), Telecoms Spying, again all about money every line , we tapped we paid $1000 plus $250 a month to keep the tap on. The war, what a better cash cow for these bastards. I could go on but I don't have enough time to continue. When elected, our idiot pres said he was going to run it as a business. He has, just got no bid contracts for his cronies.  EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE HAS BEEN ABOUT MONEY!!! Look at his policies and I think you will agree
Respectfully Yours,
Gary Hildreth
5 - I can't even imagine the mental contortions Dana Perino has to go through before she faces the media in order to convince herself that what she's saying is right -- either on a factual level or in the service of some higher cause.

4 - The White House has been referring to the NIE as "raw data" that needed to be interpreted. Unless the intelligence community differs remarkably in its application of business/technical writing, you don't usually write a report without offering some interpretation of the data. The only thing that's raw here is the White House's half-baked explanation of the situation.

Oddball - Thanks for reminding me why I always arrange to be "called away" from wedding receptions to handle some crisis.

3 - So much for the pipe dream that a Republican candidate would finally break the stranglehold that evangelicals seem to have on the GOP. Romney fancies himself as being the new Ronald Reagan. That speech reminded me more of Bush. At the moment he claims to be defending his position, he's actually indicting everyone else's.

2 - "D---, we're in a tight spot!"
EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE HAS BEEN ABOUT MONEY!!! Gary Hildreth

-- Gary, I agree.  I've heard serious scholars say that our government is now a kleptocracy. Really it explains everything.
"2 - 'D---, we're in a tight spot!'" HM, in an ivory tower somewhere (Sent Friday, December 07, 2007 10:20 AM) YES!!! Great OH BROTHER...WHERE ART THOU? recall! Thank you so much for the much-needed-end-of-semester giggles.
Keith - Great job on our lying president and his monions. i just wish you could get Cheney,Bolton Wolfie et al on your show to answer some real questions about what they have done to America.

Please keep up the good work.

Gary Philippi
2nd attempt to post...

“Oh, what a tangled web we weave…”

Was Dana Perino the blond in mind when blond jokes were created?

The excerpts on the show are the most I’ve heard of Mitt’s speech. This "performance" was freakin’ scary!! I think maybe the MSM thought there were going to be all these Mormon “revelations” or that this “performance” would be comparable to JFK’s; the MSM was obviously hosed BIG TIME!

I WANT TO SEE MAYOR RUDY’S MARRIAGE SPEECH!!

Keith, isn't it too bad that the new book is "in the can" already?! This administration will be the gift that keeps on giving. You may have to release a "Part Deux" before it's all said and done!


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