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Countdown Friday: States of Mind

Posted: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:59 PM by Countdown
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Weekend WarriorsIf Democratic Party officials in Michigan had not decided to play a game of chicken with the DNC...They would be holding tomorrow's premier event on the primary calendar -- 156 delegates in one key contest between Super Tuesday and the upcoming Chesapeake Tuesday. In our fifth story: Instead? Well, the Detroit Red Wings are home, Sunday. And -- while Michigan mulls over the idea of a primary do-over, and Florida laughs at it -- Senators Clinton and Obama are vying this weekend for more delegates, than they did in all of January. Florida's guffaw, in a moment.

You Say Dubai, I say HelloAt the Conservative Political Action Conference, C-PAC, in Washington early this morning, President Bush repeated one of his favorite canards about presidential historians. He said, "if they're still analyzing Number One (George Washington), 43 doesn't have to worry about it." Our fourth story on the Countdown: it's Number 44 everybody else is interested in -- to such a degree that even Mr. Bush himself has finally noticed there is a presidential election in November. The question is: why he chose this very moment -- as the analysis of his presidency makes dis-approval ratings history -- to chime in on Campaign 2008?

ODDBALL: there's nothing on mars and a little hanky panky down at the station

Bushed!Remember how we just did our "Bushed" segment 12 minutes ago? Yeah, well, it's time for another one... not that we've had three new scandals since then... (the new-scandal rate is estimated at only one per every 20 minutes or so). No, in our third story tonight, due to the abundance of election coverage, to compensate for the shortfall in our usual watchdogging, we now offer an extra serving of... Bussssshhed! Number three: Not-investigating- waterboarding-gate gate!
 
The Rockets Wife Juiced?  First the athletes, now their spouses. Any way you look at it.. the latest bizarre twist in baseball's steroid scandal is the opener in tonight's celebrity and entertainment news.  Late today, the New York Daily News reporting its sources claim

WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD: Roger Ailes, Tom Delay, and the webmasters at Bill O'Reilly.com vie for tonight's top honors.

Plays of January:  You're Oddball compilation for January...enjoy. 

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Keith,

I never miss one of your broadcasts, if I am out I always record it and watch later.  I used to look forward to David Shusters commentary, hs seemd so insightful and "in the know".  His latest comments about Chelsea Clinton have changed my mind about his impartiality.

I will be very disappointed if he doesn't make your worst person list for his comments.  I know O'reilly would be number one if he had made such an insensitive remark, let's see how objective you really are.
OK, let's get some unpleasantness out of the way first. Man...I HATE to do this, but Keith, in WPITW you rightfully smacked down "He who shall not be named" for the "shout out" on his website to Senator Edwards that those guys they found under the bridge were not veterans but sex offenders. Uh, Keith, honey, Newshole moderators have allowed a shameful and horrible post linking the awful storms in TN to Senator Clinton winning TN on Tuesday evening to be on Newshole all week. “He Who Shall Not Be Named” is never expected to do the honorable thing by apologizing or making amends, but Newshole’s standards haven’t exactly been “up to snuff,” either. We have higher standards for you because you have diplayed those higher standards in your reporting and in your conduct. I’m sorry; I really hated saying that, but I think many bloggers here would agree with me.
Keith, you are becoming more like a spineless Democrat every day.  You apologized to the Clinton family when you did nothing wrong.  Would you believe this was my first thought only after I heard the introduction, knowing nothing about what you were even going to apologize for?

Now that I’ve watched the show, and I know why you apologized, I still don’t think you needed to do it.  I can’t stand Shuster.  He’s not “keen”, he’s an idiot, and I hope they keep him off the air for a while.  If he had called Chelsea a “ho” I guess he would have been fired, right?  But to insinuate that she merely allows herself to be “pimped out”, and that her parents are doing the pimping, that’s ok.

This is the second time you have apologized on behalf of someone else.  The last time was Alison Stewart and her remarks about Senator Vitter’s wife.  Now you’re apologizing for Shuster, and he didn’t even make the remarks on your show.  I’ve got to ask, have you become NBC’s designated apologist now?

Shame on you, sir!
This may be off topic, but where's David Schuster? I heard he's been suspended. For how long? He's the best reporter/analyst you have!  I've seen the assignments he's been getting.....he had to be going nuts. If he hadn't made that remark about Chelsea, he was gonna eat a gun. He did it to save his life.  Tell him he is sorely missed and I don't blame him.
This may be off topic, but where's David Schuster? I heard he's been suspended. For how long? He's the best reporter/analyst you have!  I've seen the assignments he's been getting.....he had to be going nuts. If he hadn't made that remark about Chelsea, he was gonna eat a gun. He did it to save his life.  Tell him he is sorely missed and I don't blame him.
# 5 -- Nothing could be finer than Bill Clinton in a diner … a legend in his own time, for sure.

David Shuster apology -- It was the right thing to do, Countdown.  Appalling doesn’t begin to describe it, but your dignified and sincere apology will begin to heal it.  

# 4 -- You mean republicans contradict themselves?  No kidding.  We cut taxes, increased spending, and the plan worked; in fact, it worked so well that we now need to hand out money like candy, while cutting taxes and spending on social programs …  Sheesh.  

Rachel -- We have news for you -- John McCain IS the endless warmonger, and he doesn’t intend to avoid it.  Oh the shark, babe … (all right, settle down).  

Bushed!  Condy!!!  Definitely NOT a legend in her own time.  

Oddball -- Okay, Mars looks deserted, but I’m not buying it.  Read Edgar Rice Burroughs.  Or Ray Bradbury.  And it could have been a tiny sasquatch, you know.  But if it’s deserted, then who made the smiley face?  And by the way, who won Nevada?

Bushed! -- Special torture edition.  But apparently, we haven’t got time for the pain.  

WPitW -- Billo!!!  You’re still so vain.  Always a special treat, Countdown.

Ooooh.  No more Britney? Attitude dancing, for sure.  But don’t worry, Countdown.  If you never want to talk about Britney again, fine with us.  Lots more time for George, Denzel, Clive …  (oh, never mind, let’s just talk politics).

Nice combo tonight, Countdown.  THOSE stripes just … work.
I miss John Edwards, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson, and Dennis Kucinich; I’m getting tired of these spin meisters for Senators Clinton and Obama and their insistence on the pity party underdog treatment. Sorry, I don’t miss Mr. Gravel;  I always thought he was a little too weird for even my standards.

CPAC still thinks GWB is “conservative”? How big is our deficit these days? How much debt are we in? How much debt are we leaving future generations? Would Senator McCain be STUPID enough to want GWB to campaign for him? I really don’t think so.

In "BUSHED!," as far as any poor souls who are near to where "the big hunt" will be this weekend, I’ll add, for heaven’s sake, if you feel you must travel, WEAR THAT BRIGHT ORANGE HUNTING GEAR!

“Hoosiers” were all over “Oddball” tonight! Kewl!James Dean was also born in Indiana (Fairmount to be exact) and is buried there. His poor family has to keep replacing his headstone because fans keep chipping away pieces of it when they come “pay their respects.” Elkhart, IN is way the heck up north near the MI border.

THANK YOU!! The waterboarding and FISA update stories tonight are better late than never! Yippie for Senator Durbin! And, in prep for next week's next battle to secure our civil rights in the FISA debate, give kudos and support to Senators Dodd and Feingold! You think Senators Clinton and Obama will offer more than "moral" support?

Dick Cheney and David Addington could possibly be in trouble later on with their "wartime" shenanigans?! Oh, could one actually dare to hope?!  Nope, I’m not going to. GWB will just pardon them or some other such nonsense.

And, I happily end this week with a kudos to infinity and beyond to Keith. I love you more than my luggage! Way to not run away and hide from David Schuster’s comments about Chelsea Clinton. I, too, was very surprised and am very disappointed in what he said. Your apology could not have been more classy. Thank you! Actions like this show why we have faith in you.

To ALL THE BLOGGERS who participate here, to the Newshole moderators, to the staff and contributors of COUNTDOWN, and to Keith Olbermann, have a faboo wonderful weekend.
Free David Schuster!!!    Can't believe that Schuster has been suspended for the comment about the Clinton's pimping out Chelsa for the benefit of the campaign.  First, that's not such a perjorative term as its used today in referring to "pimp my ride" etc., and secondly, it must be apparent to most that we didn't start seeing or hearing from Chelsea until Barack's appeal to youthful voters became an issue.  So, to me, it appears that Schuster was accurate in his assessment of how Chelsea is being used in this primary campaign. I have the utmost respect for Bill, Chelsea and Hillary as individuals but think it is naive to suggest that they aren't taking advantage of Chelsea's youth to try to pick up support.  I'll vote for Hillary if she's the candidate but prefer Barack because he's not as likely as Hillary to galvanize the republican base and because I think the country needs to get a fresh perspective.
Were not BOTH Hillary and Barack aware of the existence of SUPERDELEGATES in the Democratic nomination process mathematics?

 If you felt that you weren't going to get a fair shake from the SUPERS in a close race, you should have run your campaign in a manner that would not result in a close race.

 Seems pretty obvious doesn't it?

Regardless, it's all a moot point.

 CHENEY ISN'T GOING TO ALLOW THERE TO BE AN ELECTION
 
I think everyone at MSNBC should apologize to the Clintons. You all continually bash Hillary and her family yet hardly touch Obama. But since white males polled seem to be voting for him AND they run GE and MSNBC I guess I understand the sexist slant on your parts. I didn't hear any"pimping out"comments when Romney's son's were campaigning for him. You created the hate Hillary environment and Shuster just carried out your bidding. You created the poison, he administered it. Please correct this bias, it is becoming hard to watch and every time I hear Chris Matthews, my remote clicks to a different station

Congratulations you have now become what you hate most
...the new FOX News.
Say it again louder, NO RE-VOTING!!! Its a shame that the DNC after shaming themselves for saying that the republican party in Fl just managed to keep FL vote from counting in the democratic primary, now they want to add insult to injury and ask for a re-vote?  There are no do-overs in voting.  Fl must insist that its vote, the original vote be counted, no some sham designed once again to favor the darling of the far left Obama. The democrats need FL in the general election, Hillary received more votes in FL than any other candidate, republican or democrat.  These voters should not be disenfranchised. Count the vote.
once again, the first story of the show is omitted from the webcast. thanks again, getting the audio-only version from the also-incomplete "podcast", again.
Tonight was the second night in a row that Keith has seemed to be flummoxed about the loan Hillary Clinton made to her campaign. Neither he nor Jonathan Alter could come up with an example more recent than Richard Nixon (tying Clinton with Nixon -- I can't imagine why people think MSNBC is biased against Senator Clinton), but all they had to do is think back 4 years -- John Kerry mortgaged his home to fund his campaign when it was broke. And if I remember correctly, it was a notable issue not only because it was quite a gamle, but also because of the great wealth of Kerry's wife, Theresa.
Keith, I appreciate your apology regarding Schuster’s reprehensible comment about Chelsea Clinton.  However, the quote below describes exactly how I feel; it describes how many former and/or soon to be former MSNBC viewers feel; it also describes, in my opinion, the path I believe you to be on sir.

Please, use the Schuster incident as a wake up call Keith; for your reporting has been slanted for a couple of months and is getting worse by the night.  Media Matters nailed it with the following quotes; I ask you to read them and do some self evaluation; you are far too good of a person, far too good of a journalist and far too loyal to our country to let this election have such a negative affect on you!!

"Like Don Imus, Tucker Carlson and Chris Matthews before him, David Shuster's reprehensible comments are part of a troubling pattern that has become all too common on MSNBC broadcasts.

"If MSNBC was genuinely trying to tackle the problem of sexism on their airwaves, this wouldn't keep happening.

"Instead of constantly searching for the right response to these outbursts, MSNBC should be searching for ways to foster an environment where they don't happen in the first place.

"The time for apologies has passed. The time for a real commitment to change is long since overdue."

Yes, the time for real commitment to change is long since overdue!!

Good night & good luck sir!!
Tonight was the second night in a row that Keith has seemed to be flummoxed about the loan Hillary Clinton made to her campaign. Neither he nor Jonathan Alter could come up with an example more recent than Richard Nixon (tying Clinton with Nixon -- I can't imagine why people think MSNBC is biased against Senator Clinton), but all they had to do is think back 4 years -- John Kerry mortgaged his home to fund his campaign when it was broke. And if I remember correctly, it was a notable issue not only because it was quite a gamle, but also because of the great wealth of Kerry's wife, Theresa.
I am an ex long-time viewer.  I thought Keith was doing a great job challenging the Bush Administration's bad decisions because someone had to keep the administration honest.  But I am extremely disappointed that this network is pushing a presidential candidate on us.  Consider that when you promote one (Obama) you ignore the rest of your viewers.  How dare you guys think YOU know what is good for US.  SHAME ON YOU MSNBC...YOU ARE BEHAVING LIKE BUSH AND HIS CRONIES HAVE BEEN DOING FOR 7 YEARS...
I saw the very end of Katie Couric's newscast tonight, and she had a couple of guys on there explaining the reason for super delegates. Apparently, they are there to safeguard in case the voters choose an "unqualified" candidate. How ridiculous is that? For one thing, all our candidates this year were all supremely qualified. For another, it is the voters who are supposed to decide, otherwise why even hold elections!

On the other hand, if only the Republicans had used them in 2000...

I hope John McCain is in good health, please take care of yourself, Senator, because if you croak, all that's left is Huckabee or Ron Paul. That's scary, because I have no confidence that this election will be any more honest than the last one.
How DARE George W. Bush. How DARE you, sir. You stand at that podium speaking to your coveted "conservative audience", speaking about how peace and prosperity hang in the balance of this election. Well, sir, you are exactly correct. This country hasnt been in this bad of economic shape in decades. You promote peace, but you continue to push your agenda on a country that, truth be known, didnt ask for your help to begin with. You continue an unwanted presence in a war zone, even though the vast majority of your own population at home has told you more than once to get out and get those men home safe. Arrogance is the only explanation for these actions, and your speech today to the conservatives is further proof of it. Arrogance, that is unless, one could go out on a limb and call it STUPIDITY. Peace and prosperity indeed, Mr. Bush. Wake up and look around for a change. Your own people, the people that pay YOUR salary, are suffering.....the country of which YOU are in charge of is in record debt......employment rates are on the rise...YOUR citizens are losing their homes to predatory lenders that should have never been able to push those kinds of programs to begin with, they knew they were going to default.....all of this so YOU can declare "Mission Accomplished" before January 09. Peace and prosperity indeed.......The only thing that can assure us peace and prosperity at this juncture in time is to make it to January 09 and hope that someone can find a big enough band-aid on this mess to hold it together long enough to fix it.....and I have a hunch that a "Conservative" isnt going to be that someone.
He has PB on quite often, Dave.  Also, where did you get the idea that one has to have someone on with whom he disagrees?  News is neither fair nor balanced (that's a lie perpetrated by Fox) . . . opinion is rarely fair nor balanced, either.  
junebug (Sent Friday, February 08, 2008 3:06 PM)

I can only watch those segments of Countdown that gets posted on msnbc.com, as my Cable Co. doesn't carry it.

So, segments with Pat either don't get posted, or they are few and far between.

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La Raza has given money to M.E.Ch.A. (Which calls for Reconquest of The American South West for Mexico by whatever means nessisary. With the Motto "For those of the Race, Everything; for those not of the Race, Nothing".) and claim that they are the Ones to keep an eye out for Hate Groups?

I don't think so. It would just like some "Respectible" group of Laywers and Advocates giving money to the KKK, claiming that they were a Hate-Watch Organization.

So why did the ADL and Southern Poverty ally themselves with La Raza?
As an American and a Florida Democrat I am outraged that the DNC could possibly entertain the idea of seating the Fl and MI delegates.  When I called the FL Dem office in the state capitol yesterday, you would think I were talking to Hillary herself- they said they WILL have the FL delegates seated and they will NOT hold a revote or caucus.  When I asked how I could fight it I was told that I can't and that I am a sore loser because my candidate didn't "win" right before she ended the conversation by hanging up on me.  They are in Hillary's pocket.  Obama supporters are trying to do all we can to fight this including making calls and sending emails to the DNC and also circulating a petition (link below).
Petition link:
http://www.petitiononline.com/fordnc/petition.html

I live in Florida and barely went out to vote because I thought it was not supposed to count.  If it was going to count, there should have been campaigning and an equal playing field in Fl and MI.  I would have been calling, wearing an O. shirt, sporting bumper stickers and signs...Our primary was held just after those nasty Obama smear emails went around.  A friend (a doctor in fact) of mine told me yesterday that she didn't vote for Obama because he is a Muslim and a terrorist sympathizer.  I tried to hide my shock and asked why she thought that...of course it was because of one of those smear emails.  I told her the TRUTH and now she is actually going to look into the facts about Barack.  It is hard to fathom that people believe those lies, but when people are uninformed and live in a world where we are always "fighting a war on terror" and afraid of people who have "foreign" names or appearances, people become blinded by fear.  No one can convince me that the playing field was equal in Florida just because neither candidate campaigned and both had their names on the ballot.  Sheer name recognition gave Hillary a huge advantage in a state where no campaigning occurred and no one encouraged people to get out to vote.  And no one could argue sensibly that Michigan was fair with neither Edwards or Obama on the ballot!
In general -- Keith or Mr. Olbermann -- I have truly enjoyed your show for a long time.  I am a long time liberal but also find Pat Buchanan to be one of the most insightful and fair of your MSNBC pundits. Your station is becoming a disgrace!! From the sexism of Matthews to the repulsive sexism of Shuster to the change I have seen in your ability to be somewhat, even slightly fair in your reporting. I know Clinton-bashing is a fun sport and I certainly know you guys really dig it -- but you and these other MSNBC guys have moved into another realm of cruelty and unfounded hatemongering. Sen.  Clinton gets bashed on the right(wing that is), in the cable and mainstream media and by Obama lovers.  Not one of you will dig into a story with any depth on his past , his present policies, full of leaks and holes as they are or any points made by the Clinton camp and many others. I fear you are all too worried about being called shall we say "racist" as Bill Clinton was -- but not many worries about being called sexist if you criticize Sen. Clinton.  I am so sorry about you -- I used to enjoy watching you, laughing and had a great time tuning in. Until you and the rest of your station  become less lopsisded re:Hillary  and fainting all over the new Messiah Obama (which the blogospere has already started to see through - as have multitudes of women) I cannot watch your results election night or your show period.  I look forward to you getting more fair and looking at the Democrats without rose-colored  glasses - I already know you're not a Republican.  Good night and good luck.
David Shuster, Worst Person in the World? I guess if it's not Bill O or the Comedian, you don't have the guts to do it! You have lost a viewer....I'm not a Cliton lover, but what David said was disgusting....Even YOU appologising for him was not enough, and was really stupid. Good luck Keith, you may turn up as the Worst Person in the World!
By the way, Mr. Bush, sir. As far as your economic stimulus package. You and your cronies continue to call this a tax rebate. This is NOT a tax REBATE. This is an advance on next year's refund. If it stimulates the economy now, fantastic. What happens a year from now, when people that count on their refunds each year, get a portion of what they are accustomed to and the economy nosedives again? Doesn't matter to you, does it, Mr. Bush? By this time next year, you will have left office. A new President will be in position. It will be their problem to deal with. They will be the ones catching the ration of poo because they took office in January, and the economy may or may not have taken a dip in April, May, or June........all to save your "legacy". Your "legacy", sir, is already written. The people of the United States of America, as great of a country as this is, are going to be paying for your mistakes for quite some time. The people of the United States of America will NOT soon forget your "legacy".
I'm not really surprised with David Schuster's comments yesterday about Chelsea Clinton.  He was just a little more forthright than most of the MSNBC commentators about the Clintons than the others have been with their Obama bias.  It's no wonder that with all of the medias' hype and promotion of Obama, that the Clintons have been having to defend themselves so much.  Plus with the medias' attempt to drag race into the campaign, that has made the election that much more devicive than the Democratic party needs right now.  Keith, you're better than that and so are your other members of MSNBC.  Let's not turn into Fox Noise.
BTW, I'm totally for securing our borders and ports (should have been done AGES ago), enforcing current immigration laws for both illegal immigrants AND most importantly, the folks who HIRE them illegally.
junebug (Sent Friday, February 08, 2008 2:55 PM)

Then by the Standerds of La Raza, you too are a Racist, and if you were Prominate enough, the ADL and Southern Poverty would smear your name.

Not that I'd buy it for a minute. We may disagree at times, but I'd never use the term Racist in an attempt to win a debate.
THAT IS ELECTION REFORM
Disgusted, TX (Sent Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:12 PM)

All that you have to do to get it done, is Admend the First Admendment.

I too would like to see 100% Public Finance of all campains.

But there would be nothing you can do to stop a Non-Nominee from raising monies to become a Nominee, or to keep Third Parties from promoting someone; unless you change the First Admendment.

I may disagree with how some Use (Or Missuse) The First Admendment, but I'm not for Changing it.
<i>You're</i> Oddball compilation

tsk tsk

You know better.
I sent a comment --just wondering why it wasn't posted?  Was it because of all the rampant sexism at MSNBC??
Hey, Keith, I think you missed David Shuster as "worst person in the world" for stating that Senator Clinton was pimping out Chelsea.  Check the dictionary a pimp is someone who solicits clients for a prostitute.  Whaddaya think.  Couldn't you say the same thing about Romney and his sons, or Obama and his wife, Oprah, and Caroline.  

Not only was it more of MSNBC's devalued journalism, it was unprofessional and misogyinistic.  I am willing to say with 100% certainty that if Bill O'Reilly had made the comment with respect to any candidate, you would have made him worst person in the world.  

I believe that David Shuster should have been one of the Worst Persons in the World, after his offensive comment regarding Chelsea Clinton.  Furthermore, I believe that Keith Olbermann should be one of the Worst Persons in the World for not including David Shuster in this category.
Today I am leaving for Africa and one of my main concerns is withdrawal from Countdown and Keith.  I can only hope that the shows get posted to the blog early.  Considering that I will be time zones ahead of NY, does  that mean that I will know what Keith will say before he does?  Check in Keith and find out.

Shame on the Chealsea comment.  When my 25 year-old uses the same phrase, I am appalled.
#1.My vote would be for Mistress of Inanity, Britter. #2. The family that plays together...uh...does Testosterone together? #3. Dubya, the Train Wreck Presidency. And Cheney, the last remaining Caboose in America. #4. Well, the Root (so to speak) of Analysis, is, after all, Anal. #5. The Dramacrats have the Show all to themselves. (Actually, they had it after all the Republicrats stayed hooked to Dubya.)
Two more examples of the quality of journalism at MSNBC:

Friday's COUNTDOWN with Mr. Olbermann's excuse filled apology for inexcusable behavior

David Shuster

NBC News should simply start over and build from the ground up.  The ratings show that it needs to be done, the reprehensable behavior of the channel's "journalists" (and I use that term very loosely) support such action and the reputation of a once great news organization requires it.

People like Shuster and Olbermann, with their unprofessionalism, intellectually dishonesty and sophomoric behavior, only erodes the once respected reputation of NBC News.
I apologize for part of my comment earlier this morning, i.e.,  "Furthermore, I believe that Keith Olbermann should be one of the Worst Persons in the World for not including David Shuster in this category." I had missed the broadcast on Friday, and at the time I wrote my comment I only looked at the Worst Persons segment on the News Hole blog.  I have just listened to your special comment on the episode, and I believe you addressed the matter appropriately.  However, I still believe that David Shuster should have been one of the Worst Persons.
Again, I apologize for suggesting that you should have been included in that category.
Why should we in MI have a "do over" primary???? Obama's campaign called my home over 20 times to get me to vote "uncommitted"....He took his name off the ballot, no one told him to, that was his decision...as for FL....he did campaign there, he has commericals all over the cable news, and life size cut out cardboard pictures of him at the polls..And lets face it, MSNBC and CNN have been fawing all over him since the fall...that's right...go back and look at your coverage, he is the second coming of Christ according to the cable news channels...you beat Hillary in the ground...all day everyday...and praise Obama all day everyday...so we should not have a "do over" we did it once, and we voted for who we wanted...not even the cable news channels can tell us who to vote for, but boy do you sure try....
I guess you aren't putting up any comments here.  I heard yesterday that George (or maybe his name is Ed/) Schultz said that at MSNBC you couldn't say anything bad about Obama.  It figures.  The corporate media has just gone too far.  This show included.  I suppose that's why you always dis Clinton and don't say anything 'bab' about your new boy toy.
Keith's apology in behalf of Schuster was heartfelt and sincere. Schuster's words were unconscionable, but they were just the tip of the iceberg.

Many white male media types clearly have it in for Hillary, and they can barely restrain their disdain. Even Matthews realized he had gone too far and issued an excellent, genuine statement about it.

The media scoff at her laugh (cackle), her tears, and even her attire - - none of this having anything to do with positions on issues or responsible journalism.

Meanwhile, Huckabee remains a media darling for his standup comedy routines and entertainment value. Here is a guy who believes Earth is only 6000 years old and who wants to scrap the Constitution in favor of Biblical law, yet there is little media attention to this nonsense.  

I keep waiting for Keith to bring back some perspective on these things and put America ahead of good television.
The wit and probing commentary of Countdown makes politics more interesting than, say, anything on tv. there is nothing  I have become a political junkie and smarter for it.
  As for the Republicans, I stare into my coffee each morning mulling over the possibility that if McCain wins, we will be spending 100 more years in Iraq. By then, we will all be dead of some other evil force besides terrorism. (I have doubts, however, that we can elect a man who wore a tie on
Super Tuesday that resembled a picnic tablecloth.) Style counts. But so does content. Thanks to Mr. Olbermann and staff for keeping us enlightened and amused at the same time.
keith your incredible and the antithesis of the present US administration - i was just watching the CNN and there was a story about katrina - yay, no one talks about that anymore - anyway 2 and 1/2 years out and it's still crap down there - i think this administration is an abomination to our civilization generally an abomination to all of humanity throughout time  - but these candidates for pres. aren't talking about katrina either or the acts of this administration (are they clueless of the psychosis level?) can you light a fire?  no one seems to have a voice i saw an old film of a kennedy speech recently and he actually had a voice - why are these people on downers when the world seems crazier than ever??? thanks!! c
Did David Shuster show poor judgment in word choice?

Absolutely.

Did he mean it as a sexist slam against Chelsea Clinton, and therefore by extension against Hillary Clinton?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

If Mr. Shuster had said "doesn’t it seem like Chelsea’s sort of being EXPLOITED in some weird sort of way” instead of "doesn’t it seem like Chelsea’s sort of being PIMPED OUT in some weird sort of way” would this tempest in a tea cup be happening?

Probably not.

Again, it was a poor choice of words on Mr. Shuster's part. He's human. It happens. "Pimping" seems to have become a really common word in the American vernacular in recent years. It is a loaded word, I realize that and understand it. But in my humble opinion, suspending Shuster and having every Clinton supporter on earth calling for his head is an over reaction.
Keith, I cringed when I heard you apologize for the pimping Chelsey comment. That word does not have the same meaning to younger people as it does to folks of our age. My sons use it all the time, heck it is part of the name of a TV show "Pimp My Ride". Please give David a break. He is a great young reporter and I will really miss him if he gets canned.
RNorcal Friday 9:14pm
I think that Keith was the designated apologist because nobody else could do so without the apology sounding hollow.
Can you imagine Joe Scarbrough, Tucker Carlson or Chris Matthews doing it without a smirk on their face?
 The target was not Chelsea Clinton, but an indirect swipe at her mother.
Hopefully, they've all learned a lesson.
As for Mrs. Clinton being upset she had every right. My daughter is much older than Chelsea and I'd defend her with my life.
OK Keith-I'm finally going to do it...I just went into my DVR scheduled recordings list and deleted all and future shows of "Countdown with Keith Olbermann".  I can't begin to tell you how sad I feel and I mean that truthfully.  In the past your show was one of the few news shows I could count on for positive intellectual stimulation.  Even though I didn't agree with everything you said or did on your show, a good thing for people with open minds,  it was interesting and entertaining.  However, the main stream media's overwhelmingly negative spin about Hillary Clinton's campaign for President of the United States has gone too far.  Sadly, this includes MSNBC and, now, even your show.  The main stream media's coverage of this historic campaign has devolved into a pro male discussion.  It seems the main stream media is determined to get a man, any man, nominated for the position of President of the United States.  In this election, at this time in our country's history, the most qualified candidate for the position, from either party, is Hillary Clinton.   She is on the right side of almost all of the issues that are important to the people who are actually doing the voting and she has the experience to back up her words with action.  This campaign is becoming a gender contest.   She is being devalued, marginalized and attacked from every corner, because she is a powerful woman who might actually rise to occupy the most powerful job in the world.  The main stream media is treating her campaign for President of the United States with contempt and then minimizing her every victory. of which there have been many.  She is the frontrunner still, against all odds, and if this patriarchal, misogynist attack on her doesn't succeed, she will be the next President of the United States.   Then the rest of the world will know the United States of America is really serious about change and there may be a chance for real change in this world.  Of course, that's the real fear for those with power in a male dominated world, isn't it?  Do we want change?  Do we want REAL change?    Then elect a WOMAN as the next President of the United States.      Of course, I would watch your show again if you have the courage to stand up to the power that is(and, smile, must not be named)  and start to report on this election campaign again in a fair and balanced way.  You could start by having the misogyny issue in this campaign be your #5 topic for discussion one night. Soon.  There are many knowledgeable, informed and intellectual people who could be part of that discussion, men and women.  People who have seriously researched and addressed this issue.  I, for one, believe you can do this Keith!   I'll be waiting and I'll miss you... Sincerely    
I am not surprised that David S. went off the rails and made the comment he did.  One hears this type of comment on Fox all the time, and sad to say your network (previously my favorite for news, now I am back to CNN where I have no idea who Wolff, etal are for or against...not so on MSNBC) has become the Fox News of this political year.  From Nora O.'s comment yesterday that Clinton "slammed" Obama in a speech in Maine (when she showed the clip, no one I am sure could locate the "slam"), to her continual "WOWs" everytime a primary result came through showing a win for Obama, your coverage is so biased that I only watch now to get mad!  This is also how I treat FOX.
You have created a culture of Clinton hatred and Obama love....every speech he gives is the most inspiring speech Chris M. has ever heard.  That makes me wonder exactly where Chris has been the last 30 years!  By the way, where is Craig Crawford...not Obama-loving enough for your show?  At least Dan Abrams does attempt to be fair.
But most of all I am surprised at you...you ignore, dismiss and quote without context Clinton, and fawn over Obama.  Perhaps you should go back to sports reporting, because you have shown you cannot be impartial and be a real news reporter.  You even have me rethinking your Bush "comments"!  Comments are one thing...news reporting is, or should be, another.  Where is your impartial news reporting spine?
Dave Shuster's remark about Chelsea Clinton was disgusting. What was he thinking?! It's too bad if it does permanent damage to his career in television journalism but, then... maybe it should.
I'm really getting sick and tired of the bias shown by MSNBC,in regard to the Clinton campaign. It's so blatantly obvious. I am a lifelong Democrat and I like and admire both candidates.  
I may, however, change my news and information source to another network if this slant doesn't change and  soon. I hope you have a fair, balanced, and wonderful weekend.
Oh, Sheilia (throw back to the 1980's):  The liberal use of the word 'pimp' doesn't mean it's okay.  Chelsea Clinton is an educated (more educated than most people on MSNBC), intelligent young woman who is supporting her mother-why the need to insult her, even in a joking manner?  What purpose does it serve?  

This woman was thrown into the limelight at a very tender age-why is it okay to suddenly make irresponsible comments about her?  It's not and it shouldn't be.  
On another note:  My 3 eldest boys and I took the Myers-Briggs personality assessment the other day (my husband will take it when he's back in country).  We did it mainly to figure out the best way for me/my husband, to work out the best curriculum for our homeschooling.

AH!  I'd absolutely LOVE to have that assessment done on the regulars here-I'm sure it would be VERY revealing.:)

Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN (Sent Friday, February 08, 2008 9:13 PM)

Thank you, for saying what needs to be said.
Scottie sweet cheeks:  Just a question-are you really from Henderson, NC, and just accidently hit the 'v' instead of the 'c'?  Just curious.  Most people in the western part of the US don't use the term y'all, unless of course their origins are from the south.

I was stationed in the Navy with a guy from Henderson-sense of humor like you wouldn't believe, not to mention being a top notch sailor.  I wonder how Herman is doing these days.
Hillary's stretching of the "pimping" comment by schuster sounds a lot like what Bush did to Kerry in 2006 when he made his "stuck in Iraq" joke.

It is obvious to anyone with a brain that he was not talking about literally "pimping" her out.

She is now refusing to debate on MSNBC but is still up for a debate on Fox? How can anyone think she will change anything in Washington?


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