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G. Arce Tucson, AZ. — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:36:22 GMT

WILL THE G#D D@MN MEDIA REMIND AMERICANS THAT MRS. EDWARDS WHO IS REFUTING THE CRUEL REMARKS OF THE SUB HUMAN COULTER, HAPPENS TO BE BASICALLY DYING OF CANCER. THIS WOMEN IS A HERO AND YOU MAIN STREAM MEDIA STICK YOUR HEADS INTO THE GORUND AND NOT EVEN REPORT IT. I DESPISE BOTH THE GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA. SCREW BOTH.

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Tru M., Cleveland, Ohio — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:44:04 GMT

Hmm, let's see. It's 9:34 ET...is the Office of the Vice President part of the Executive Branch now or not? Or, is it only when it needs to claim it has a right to receive confidential advice, but not when it's a matter of checks and balances? I'm so confused...

Oh, and Keith, I'm really glad I wasn't eating when you said that the only "traditional stance" Billo has ever taken was when he was on the phone to his producer. Ohhhhh...MY...

Did you hear Billo's latest? Mr. Sensitive, noted authority on male-female relationships that he is, has figured out that the women whose names have made headlines recently as murder victims should have expected to meet the kind of fates they did. After all, they should have KNOWN they were dealing with violent men, and they should have looked out for the safety of their children and placed that first above all. And because they didn't--because they were neglectful, bad moms--it's only to be expected that they'd end up murdered. Too bad!

Don't you just love Billo-Land, where everything has an explanation, everything is everyone else's fault, and they all get what's coming to them?...Nope, me either. Just slot him next to Ann Coulter as one who simply can't avoid the compulsion to spew out of his mouth whatever diarrhea emerges from his brain...and believes it a virtue.

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Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:02:24 GMT

Good evening, everyone. "Our guy" Mr. Turley was a busy guy today - DIANE REHM this morning and COUNTDOWN tonight! But...

JONATHAN TURLEY SAID THE "I" WORD! JONATHAN TURLEY SAID THE "I" WORD! JONATHAN TURLEY SAID THE "I" WORD!
My hero, my hero, my HERO!! Now, Democrats, Congress, anyone who gives a rat's ass about our country's future, WERE YOU LISTENING?! COUNTDOWN's faithful saw it, and we're not going to let you forget it!

I also enjoyed hearing from the reporter from the VILLAGE VOICE. My, my, my...the more I hear and learn about Mayor Rudy, the more my stomach turns. Maybe that can be a new soap opera - "As the Stomach Turns". I couldn't help but notice the big Regents University sign behind Mayor Rudy. Y'all remember Regents, right? The lower-tier university that gave us Monica Goodling? Any other person's tongue would have leaped screaming out of the mouth with all the B.S. spewing out.

I think Pearl is cute! According to my mom, some of the first words out of my mouth when I was around that age were "Oh, Hell!"

Tonight's SOUTH PARK on Comedy Central is their rag on Paris Hilton. When she loses her dog, she tries to buy one of the neighborhood kids, and she's plugging her perfume called "Stupid Little Whore." The LA County Board of Supervisors couldn't revise their agenda to address the critical issues at the hospital BEFORE delving into the Paris mess?! Glad to know they had their priorities straight.

In addition to the POST series about "dictator-wanna-be" Cheney wrapping up, I finally finished CONSERVATIVES WITHOUT CONSCIENCE this evening. I highly recommend it! I want to wrap up tonight's thoughts with a quote from John Dean about democracy:

"Democracy is not a spectator sport that can be simply observed. To the contrary, it is difficult and demanding, and its very survival depends on active participation. Take it for granted, and the authoritarians, who have already taken control, will take American democracy where no freedom-loving person would want it to go" (184).

Thank you all for a spirited day full of great dialogue. Be back tomorrow!

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MK, Indianapolis — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:58:22 GMT

Paris Hilton trumps a poor dead woman, now that's a news story. A sad, sad, sad state of affairs. That poor woman died, in a hospital ER while being arrested on an outstanding warrent, and she and her family STILL can't get any justice because the real news is that Paris Hilton cried in jail and had to be let out to go cry in her mansion. Maybe the family of the dead lady can understand that Paris and the needy games she plays would always come before them, after all Paris is more important then they could ever be....she's weathy. Maybe they can understand that Paris was not used to being told "no" and therefore didn't understand that she had to stay in jail. The family of the dead lady can certainly understand the word "no", they hear it all the time.

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Ezequiel — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:01:35 GMT

I think I'll fly the flag upside down this 4th. no I will fly it upside down,as a form of protest. So if anyone asks I'll blame the Republican Senate for my actions. Spread the word. care to join me.

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:09:23 GMT

#1. The Sheriff told them, Paris was so wigged out, it was send her home, or send her to a beleaguered inner city hospital. #2. The new phones are actually injected into the butt. Looks like those folks who paid for someone to stand in line for them, will have to bend over to use it. #3. Something tells me O'Reilly hasn't progressed much since the age of nine, so he's been exploiting himself since then. #4. Rudy has been saving it until now. Call it his "June Surprise!" #5. Congressional Subpeonas? Just more toilet paper for Cheney's privvy.

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Bill in Chicago — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:13:09 GMT

Saw the interview with Eugene Robinson, and he mentioned he'd really like to learn more about Cheney's very special relationship with the Saudis. I'd sure like to hear more about that too, and to provide a little context, you might want to check out a few of the links here:

<a href="http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com">www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com</a>

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Bill in Chicago — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:14:21 GMT

Also, one more question - does Keith have the cajones to name Chris Matthews the Worst Person in the World for that ridiculous Ann Coulter interview? I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to know.

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Jamie, Chula Vista, CA — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:24:53 GMT

Ezequiel: If this were another time or another place, I might join you with in flying the flag upside down, but not now.

I currently have one brother, a sister in law and a nephew deployed to Iraq. The American flag that I fly, I fly for them as much I as I fly it for myself as an American. I also hang a Two Star Service Flag in my front room window.

While I despise everything that Bush, Cheney and all of their evil henchmen stand for, the American Flag is the ONE thing that I can hold onto to know that I am still an American living in the country that I know and love. It is the one thing that separates my loved ones in harms way, from everyone else-just from the mere fact that it is on their uniform.

I understand you anger and frustration, but I won't let the powers that be take away my symbol of what this country really stands for.

PEACE!

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Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:30:55 GMT

"The Paper Chase"!! Apparently this arrogant group of wild boar cross bred “Iron Age Pigs” has yet come up with another excuse for defying its own orders by refusing to release documents relating to their illegal actions of executing warrentless wire tapping. Oh what a shock!!

The latest absurd reasoning, in keeping true to form, is not only illogical, it’s illegal. Indeed the safeguarding of classified documents does apply to the Executive Branch; and yes Dick Cheney, while appalling and dysfunctional as this current Executive Branch is, you are indeed squarely at the core of this “Dysfunctional Branch”.

So as I can digest this lump of Charlie Brown coal, the White House now claims it is within their right to receive confidential advice and therefore this feckless Executive Branch is exempt from following its own orders.

If indeed, Mr. Bush, your collective group of lawbreakers wishes to continue on this criminal path, please do not simultaneously insult Americans by giving us an explanation a toddler would laugh at.

Mr. Bush, you are guilty of committing not a petty crime, but a federal crime, amongst executing many other criminal offenses. Indeed Congress will win this battle, albeit the Supreme Court route. As your criminally inept and dense Administration will indeed string this along, wasting tax payer dollars and most likely well into the next Administration, to cover up your crime.

Should you take this obscene route to cover up this crime, indeed many will remain ruthlessly patient in our demands that you and the remainder of your co-conspirators are placed in orange jumpsuits with your snap shot perp walk moment. While your arrogance may bring you to the conclusion that on January 21, 2009 “all will be forgotten”, think again!!

Congress, who will without doubt gain more Senate seats in 2008, in addition to a Democrat moving in to your current residence (after multiple fumigations) will deliver you to your next destination, a prison cell. “We the People” will demand such, and we, too, can be ruthless.

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Jon M, Highland, Indiana — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:48:53 GMT

I did enjoy watching Countdown...but I don't know if it is just me...but I was really getting tired of hearing how much of an idiot "Billo" is. Yes, I agree whole heartedly...FOX and Billo are in my opinion for boneheads.

However, K.O.'s constant ragging about him...just about every show... started sounding to me more like a sick obsession. Alright already! We get it! He's a jerk! Move ON for God's sake.

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Jamie, Chula Vista, CA — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:51:39 GMT

#1: Can I say that this is the first time in my whole entire life that I'm glad that I don't have Los Angeles news? Thank goodness that the news a couple of hours south doesn't give a rats ass about the bbbh and its' release from County!

PEACE!

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Tru M., Cleveland, Ohio — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:02:41 GMT

Jon M, the reason Keith comes back to Billo again and again is because he's "the gift that keeps on giving." And no matter how outrageous his remarks, he never, ever seems to have to pay for them. I imagine Keith will keep repeating them until he does have to pay...however long it takes. And I, for one, will be happy to see him do just that. So get used to it.

As for Keith: You and Dan looked great on Letterman tonight. It was lots of fun. Ha, you even switched chairs halfway through. I bet when you're each 80 years old you'll still be telling those "Blow Doll" and "Bulging Disk" stories. They never do get old, do they? Add Roger Clemens' "fatigued groin" and you have a wonderful trifecta of tales.

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Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:24:36 GMT

Krista: Pat Robertson's Regeant University not only gave us Monica Goodling, but his "heck of a job" administration has hired 150 of this lowest rated college's graduates.

Kudos to Michael Moore - he was on Jon Stewart's Daily Show tonight talking about how he was bumped from Larry King Live tonight so Paris Hilton could have the entire hour of the show. Mike and Jon had a big laugh about the news priority.

Sometimes if I didn't laugh, I'd cry.

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Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:46:41 GMT

I see the media whore has a new name, Rudy “Nine Eleven-It’s all Bill Clinton’s Fault” Giuliani – his name is sure getting long!! “Mentally defective” would be a better fit!! – JERK!!

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Independent, Texas — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:19:16 GMT

Did you guys know about this? I came across it by accident. Haven't seen any lead up advertisement.

Democratic Debate - PBS - 8:00pCDT Thursday
Moderator: Tavis Smiley.

This may be one debate that doesn't have the "theatre" angle. I've only seen Mr. Smiley in one-on-one interviews but he seems to be a pragmatic and non-BS kind of guy.

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R. Northern California — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:51:26 GMT

Ezequiel, I would join you in your protest by flying my flag upside down, but I took my flag down on Sep. 11th, 2001. I will not fly it again until I am convinced that this country is free of American terrorists, in the pay of our government. In other words--probably not in my lifetime.

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Mark, Barto, PA — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:50:12 GMT

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Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:58:46 GMT

Pam San Pedro (12:30), thank you for your powerful words. I was literally cheering last night when the words "impeachable offense" came out of Jonathan Turley's mouth. I'm getting ready to send out my first round of letters to the Senators today. Even if the House does suddenly grow a spine and impeaches (a la Howard Beale "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!" - have you seen NETWORK?), the Senate must have the courage to vote to convict. I'm even putting little personal notes on my letters basically imploring for bravery and putting country and Constitution first instead of party and political ambitions. Naive, yes, but I gotta feel like I at least tried.

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Pat, Boston, MA — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:13:28 GMT

I thought Jonathan Turley was amazing last night!!! He came right out and said Bush has indeed "committed a crime". Since they don't seem to have a clue and continue to show out and out arrogance, I guess if the Bush Admin. want to know where they stand legally, all they have to do is watch Countdown and they can find out. Keith Olbermann provides the news and stories no one anywhere else I guess feels is necessary to report.

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LA, Seattle — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:14:05 GMT

Bill in Chicago - I also sat up and took notice when Eugene Robinson mentioned Cheney's visit(s) with the Saudis. With all of the coniving and backroom policy-making he has done here, God only knows what he has been plotting over there. I'm sure it has to do with how he and Bush's oil company buddies are going to divvy up the oil revenue in Iraq with the Saudis once they "win" the war. That, I believe, is one of the big reasons they refuse to leave, no matter how many American and Iraqi lives are lost in the process; blood money.

I too am disgusted that Hardball gives Coultergeist a platform so often. I can understand Faux News doing it but I thought MSNBC had more integrity. They canned Imus for his words but continue to allow Coulter to spew her disgusting comments. Yes - Chris Matthews and Hardball deserve a Worst Person award.

I LOVE the Pearl videos! Will Ferrell and his buddy who made them are comic geniuses. Anyone who is up in arms about it needs to get a life. Happy retirement, Pearl.

Regarding Paris; and I hope this is the last time I have to hear about her or comment. How the hell can these news organizations listen to her spout her jail time as "so scary" and whine about her whole 3 weeks in prison (remember - she had frequent visitors) and give her any sympathy at all? Does the media realize there is a war going on and what these guys are going through day in and day out over there? And this is not for 3 weeks; this is for many, 15 months at a time and then they have to RETURN after only a year or less at home. Where are all the cameras when our guys come home from deployment(s)? Where is all of the media attention?

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DCohn,Cleveland,OH — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:17:11 GMT

Ok we get it, Bill O is a jerk and Ann Colture is a schmuck or visa versa. We know they slander people in any way, shape or form possibly. We know Chris Matthews needed a rating booster, but come on, calling the spifer woman agood writer two times is beyond ridiculous. She is the poster child for disaster and hate mongering. We let people like her and Bill 'O get away with the pot calling the kettle black. He thinks women like Jessie Davis invite bad men into their lives and deserve what comes there way do to "poor choices", b****. If BIll left his door open at his home by accident and an intruder broke in and harmed him or his family,would we blame him just becasuse he left his door open. Judge, not be judged and I sick of these people in the media who act so inhumane, that we allow it.The friggin media alloes it and it needs to be stopped. For Elizabeth Edwards to feel like she has to call in to defend her deceased son and her spouse and ask for a retreat of being ridiculed by this Cruella Da Ville, is sad. Ann wont stop nor will Bill, inless people start to ignore them. Keith, you go first! Peace, Denise!

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rick — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:35:15 GMT

Bill in Chicago, I have been thinking the same thing. My guess is that Keith will wimp out and not criticize Chris Mathews because he is at MSNBC

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Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:54:41 GMT

And now for some much-needed moments of levity - check out the latest JIB JAB video titled "What We Call the News." Very VERY funny and full of images of our non-favorites and our favorites, including one Keith Olbermann! You gotta look quickly, though, because he's not there for long. Once again, JIB JAB "What We Call the News." Watch and laugh!

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Krista Swisher, Indianapolis, IN — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:43:51 GMT

It is now in the news that the administration is refusing to turn over the documents requested in yesterday's subpoenas and is citing "executive privilege." What a shock. I passed out from the shock of that revelation and had to pick myself off the floor before I could type this.

Like I said yesterday, to the courts, to the courts, to the court court courts [to be sung to the Lone Ranger theme].

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C A, Tuscaloosa, Al — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:56:59 GMT

Independent: Referring to a post made yesterday on the White House Subpoena thread (June 27, 4:48 PM) I noted that either the White House would not turn over any documents except perhaps some from the funny papers, and/or if the VP or any of his staff were to agree to testify regarding the eaves dropping program we would hear " I can't recall". Well, the first part of that prediction was obviously true. Now Countdown states this administration will have a more difficult time arguing against Congressional subpoenas. My question is what has ever stopped this administration putting forth twisted or ludicrist arguements against any form of investigation or subpoenas no matter who they come from. Countdown - don't bet on this administration having a diffuclt time arguing against Congressional subpoenas. It comes easy for them whether making sense or not, legal or not. Remember, they have already informed the entire country, the entire world, they are above the law. Screw the subpoenas for documents related to the eaves dropping program - begin impeachment proceedings. Even if impeachment cannot be achieved for both Bush and Cheney at least keep this bunch busy and on the defensive fighting such proceedings all the way until they leave office so they can't screww anything else up.

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Buzz — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:03:02 GMT

Jon M- I hate Bill-O as much as the next sane person, but have been wondering, too, if there aren't plenty more targets for KO to go after. It also occured to me we never see Bush or Dickhead placed in any of those worst-worser categories. I may mot be too bright, so can anyone tell me- would it be illegal in some way to put thoese two on the segment on occasion, or is it that MSNBC does not own a man-sized pair? (which, after the Imus firing, I tend to believe....)

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Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:30:36 GMT

Actually, making Bill O'Liar WPITW or at least a contender is a good thing. New folks tuning in for a laugh will get an education on the Bill Baloney too. As things stand now, many people may not realize that every word out of BillOs foul mouth is not the gospel truth.

Additionally it gives regular viewers of Countdown with Repugnikant friends (or enemies) some truth to counter O'Liars talking points at the water cooler the next day. Not all of us go to Media Matters or other sites that monitor content.

On another matter, can't Keith ask Jonathan Turley about the Dictator Directive when he's on? I'd feel better with his expert opinion on that.

And finally - we picked up a new circus clown this thread. Please everyone ignore the new flea. He needs to find a new dog to annoy. We've got real discussions to get to and can't be bothered to get distracted by garbage.

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Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:42:12 GMT

Good article here:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/supreme_court.html

Remember all those promises made during Senate Confirmation hearings on Alito and Roberts that they were going to be "umpires" who believed in the legal concept of "stare decisus"? That they didn't have a political agenda? The demands that the pair of these boobs deserved "bipartisan support".

All lies and BS. Read the articles - their ideology is showing - they even joined together with their NeoConJob buddies on the Supreme Court to come to a "you have free speech" in a Right to Life election ad campaign, but "don't have free speech" in another case.

The Supreme Court is now in the hands of these nut jobs. God help us all.

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Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:47:20 GMT

More interesting reading:

http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29201

Apparantly FEMA had great plans for mitigating a major hurricaine in the Gulf Coast. Too bad they didn't bother to implement it.

Records that a watchdog group had to go to court to get finds that FEMA officials couldn't even find a copy of it.

Your tax dollars at work.

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Independent, Texas — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:51:42 GMT

C A, Tuscaloosa, Al (Sent Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:56 AM)

Since I agree with all you say, I'm a little confused about why this post was addressed to me. The only thing I can think of is that I had the temerity to suggest that I would not condemn Lugar for being late to the game and that I would like a little time to celebrate without negative thought a brief shining moment when we start seeing some actual movement in highlighting the criminal acts of the WH.

Did I miss something?

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Linda, Pittsburgh — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:13:57 GMT

Sue, regarding your 11;42 am post about the Alito and Roberts. You are so correct. God help us all. And God protect the four in the minority until we have a president who doesn't want to wrick the Constitution.

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Brandon, Schleswig, IA — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:21:58 GMT

Lay off the republicans. We're the only party that matters. These wining liberals have never had it so good. Our country's safer, our leaders strong and our freedoms are diminishing. The only thing left to do is to rid this country of all the immegrants, homosexuals and the poor and we will have a strong, conservative country.
Mark, Barto, PA (Sent Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:50 AM)

Oh. My. God.

First: Learn to spell. It's "whining," and later, "immigrants."

Second: How the hell is it GOOD that our freedoms are diminishing? In a country that calls itself the land of the free, surely that's a bad thing?

Third: Gee, xenophobic, homophobic, and poor-ophobic all at once? You ever stop to think that having immigrants, homosexuals, and poor people is part of what makes America America?

Fourth: Soviet Russia was a strong, conservative country. Look at what happened THERE! That country fell apart! And you want the U.S. to follow THAT model? Are you insane or just really, really stupid?

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Independent, Texas — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:33:54 GMT

Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin (Sent Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:42 AM)

Yep - been my concern about electing Bush from his first campaign that he would be stuffing the bench.

That being said, however, if you read The Brethren by Bob Woodward and Scott Armstrong (1979) they make a convincing case that after the first flush of power, justices settle down when they come to realize that they are going to be on that bench through many administrations and generations of political shapeshifting. Although an old book, I believe that this idea is still valid. If Roberts, et al, do mishandle claims of executive privilege for the purpose of political partisanship rather than ideology, they know that possibly as soon as 2008 they'll have to live with the impact of that decision. This is the reality check for the justices. I do believe that some of the ideology positions will be our cross to bear for many years. However, I think and hope that political partisanship is already starting to fade.

We'll have to just wait and see. If you think it is hard to impeach a president (and actually remove him from office), it is just, in reality, impossible to impeach a SCJ. They are there to stay.

BTW - in case you think that last statement was a complaint, it isn't. I think lifetime appointments are the only way to ensure a true independent Supreme Court - warts and all.

thanks

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Independent, Texas — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:11:52 GMT

Brandon, Schleswig, IA (Sent Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:21 PM)

Brandon - you may be right in responding to Mark's post as you did. I, however, read it to be supreme sarcasm on Mark's part.

Either way, I certainly think you are right if anyone actually does have the stupidity to think as Mark's post indicates.

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Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:38:28 GMT

Independent: Thanks for the info from that book. I inspires some hope, but I don't think we've ever had such partisan ideologues on the Supreme Court. I pray that the sane justices will remain in good health until we have a decent president.

However, Alito and Roberts are rather young men. Also Thomas and Scalia are young as well. These 4 Horsemen are going to be around for a long time. I'm hoping that they aren't the ones predicted for the apocolypse.

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Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:39:48 GMT

Linda & Sue - Thanks for your most on target descriptions of our Supreme Court. I knew the moment I heard Sandra Day O'Connor was resigning, we were in BIG trouble!!

I felt that Justice William Rehnquist's leaving the Bench was in no way as significant as Justice O'Connor's was.

Sadly, this has played out - thanks!!

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sandra, Pullman, WA — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:59:08 GMT

The only plausible reason for Olbermann not naming Chris Matthews "Worst Person in the World" is that MSNBC wouldn't allow it.
His show should be renamed SLIMEBALL.

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KT, TN — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:08:51 GMT

I posted a long serious blog over at my site this PM so I'm in no mood to be serious. I just want to say that I don't see it about the Virgin Mary watermelon. It looks like a misshapen slab of raspberry gelato to me.

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Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:32:13 GMT

Pam: Rehnquist, like Joe McCarthy, is a Wisconsin product. He was bad from day one. We're sorry we inflicted another a$$hole on America.

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Pam Bignardi, San Pedro, California — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:45:27 GMT

Sue - LOL!! You certainly do not have to apologize that these scum bags, sadly, were products of Wisconsin.

I am proud of Wisconsin, as YOU are also a product of this state!!

We Californians have been making apologies for "Saint Ronald Reagan" for years!! I certainly understand your pain!! Many apologies for his nauseating library, located in Southern California, too!!

PEACE!!

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Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:50:04 GMT

Pam: Thank you for feeling my pain.

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Flipkid, Blue State — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:53:24 GMT

"I just want to say that I don't see it about the Virgin Mary watermelon. It looks like a misshapen slab of raspberry gelato to me."

Acyually, my wife and I were wondering what PART of the Virgin Mary's anatomy that watermelon was supposed to look like...

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George, Hammonton, NJ — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:54:28 GMT

KT, TN...Even wonder why most of the Jesus and Mary images end up on E-Bay if they are so sacred? The Blessed Mary Grilled Cheese Sandwich, the Jesus Christ Cross Potato Chip, the Jesus Christ Pierogi, The Weeping Jesus Rock, The Jesus on an Oyster, etc...what I am missing?...you would think people would turn them into sacred shrines...but no, their first thought is I can make money selling this on
E-Bay...strange...Wonder if Jesus and Mary get a cut?

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Independent, Texas — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:55:56 GMT

Re SCOTUS: I disagree strenously with the positions of some of the idealogues. However, this is exactly the kind of stuff the court should be addressing. I never thought I'd agree with Scalia on anything because I think he is such a slimebag but in this one area, i think he is right.

In my posting re SCOTUS decision over issue ads prior to an election, I warned that is wasn't the decision that was the problem it was the inconsistency of the courts opinion. They have been, in my view, since Roberts took CJ been saying yes on some occasions and no on other occasions for the same topic.

Scalia is tired of playing gently. He wants strong opinions. The only reason I agree with him is that mediocre justicee will play whaley with the lower courts.

We're gonna see appeals out the kazoo because precedent is unreliable.

IMHO.

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:40:56 GMT

Do all these people realize that what they see on their food items, cloud formations, misshapen tree bark, etc., might not be Jesus but Charles Manson? I once saw a face on my slightly charred Chapati that resembled Jesus, but I was informed by the chef that it was not Jesus, but the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I looked again and decided it was closer to Charlie. With a burning ember, I added a Swastika between the 'eyebrows', just to update it a bit, slathered on some curry sauce and lentils(who vaguely resembled the Left Field Crowd at Yankee Stadium), and ate it/them. It all depends on your point of view I guess.

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:43:41 GMT

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DCohn,Cleveland,Oh — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:17:24 GMT

I saw Bill 'O in my jello (lol) maybe I will see Ann Colture in my split pea soup. Yuck, Peace, Denise! P.S. Maybe I will see Bushwhacked in my oatmeal.

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DCohn,Cleveland,Oh — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:18:46 GMT

I saw Bill 'O in my jello (lol) maybe I will see Ann Colture in my split pea soup. Yuck, Peace, Denise! P.S. Maybe I will see Bushwhacked in my oatmeal.

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C A, Tuscaloosa, Al — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:48:56 GMT

Independent: I supposed I addressed the above post to you in light of my post yesterday on the WhiteHouse Subpeona thread and your reply that I was looking at the glass half empty. My responses on this thread noted that what I predicted yesterday did in fact occur. Bush will not release any documents no matter who subpeona's the Whitehouse. And I was trying to answer your half glass analogy by stating I did not want to burst anyone's bubble or sound too critical for the hoops and hollers about the subpeonas, but wanted to remind everyone that this administration will not cooperate in any way regarding subpeonas and none in the Congreess, including the Dems, are going to take this all much further but rather will wait until Bush and Cheney leave office. Not looking at the glass half empty but rather stating the obvious, the history of the Dems and their inability to get tough, and the fact nothing is going to happen to this President and VP until their terms are over, and then they will just go home and reap any rewards they have estblsihed for themselves for the last few years. Does this make sense Independent? Plus I might have just addressed it to you by grabbing a name out of the hat just to make a statement, smile.

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Independent, Texas — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:24:08 GMT

CA - ok thanks. That clears it up a little. I was confused.

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OutWest — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:42:23 GMT

Someone please tell me how they know its an image of Jesus or Mary on their toast, watermelon, oil slick, what ever when there no photos or portraits of either.
Reminder both were Semite Jews in the Middle East meaning they looked more like your average Arab rather than a Germanic Caucasian.

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George on a half shell in Jersey — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:19:23 GMT

Steve...you mustn't play with the embers in your food...where are your manners!!! sounds like a Zappa song though...you crack me up...but, why didn't you sell Charlie on E-Bay?...the added feature of the "Swastika between the 'eyebrows'" would have gotten big bucks!!! Rage on!!!

DCohn...please save me the Coulter in the Pea Soup after your vision...I want to frame it and sell it on E-Bay to her twisted and tormented fans!!!

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Jamie, Chula vista, CA — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:19:56 GMT

Outwest: People think this way because they have been brainwashed with the imgage of a Caucasian Jesus. For all of these people in their 'superior knowledge and teachings' of Jesus, they completely forget where he was from. Looking at the portrait of the 'Last Supper,' these fellas look more like a bunch of dudes from the mid-west of this country.

Shhh, be careful though, because certainly someone will want to change THAT history too!

PEACE!

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Todd, New Orleans, LA — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:00:26 GMT

Steve. Dude. You are peculiar in all the right ways. I won't be able to have my usual toast for breakfast tomorrow with out checkin' for Charlie. Thank you very very VERY much.

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Brenda Deltona FL — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:19:38 GMT

Ezequiel, Flying a flag upside down means that this country is in distress, that is the only reason why I would fly it like that, butcha know what, I'd rather burn one at this point. It doesn't mean anything anymore. Bush and his thug bunch have squashed everything it is meant to stand for.

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Wayne, M'town TN — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:38:13 GMT

"Someone please tell me how they know its an image of Jesus or Mary on their toast, watermelon, oil slick, what ever when there no photos or portraits of either.
Reminder both were Semite Jews in the Middle East meaning they looked more like your average Arab rather than a Germanic Caucasian.
OutWest
"
Actually Hebrews of Jesus' day looked like South Eastern American Indians, except with wider variation in hair and eye color. Asiatic Bracycephalic, slender, wide variation in height, average 5'8".
Even the direct ancestors of the modern day Arab didn't look like modern day Arabs. There's the old saying "there are as many redheads among the Bedouin as among the Scots". The Twarag often have Blue eyes.

The climate of the Middle East was very different in those days, Roman era deforestation the cause of desertification in Palestine.

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Jamie, Chula Vista, CA — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:14:56 GMT

Burn away Brenda. Again, that is one thing that separates my brother, SIL and nephew from everybody else in Iraq.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not some false flag waving hyprocrite, but the American flag is one symbol that the Bush administration hasn't been able to take away from us. Please, leave it alone.

Believe in US, America. Diss the asshole in the White House and his administration, but please don't crap on one minute symbol that represents more than just this Administration-it represents you and Me!

PEACE!

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Jamie, Chula Vista, CA — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:15:47 GMT

See Outwest, I told you so.

PEACE!

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Buzz, a.k.a "oh, where oh where can my Buzzy dog be?" — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:54:12 GMT

Speaking of finding immages in things, my dog just 'pinched a loaf' in the frint yard, and lo and behold, there was an immage of Ann Coulter in it. Problem is, the dog turned around for a quick sniff and saw it, too. Went running into the woods loudly yapping and yowiling his head off. This was three days ago, and I haven't seen him since!

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Brenda Deltona FL — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:42:55 GMT

Jamie, they have distroyed everything this country stood for in the beginning. If the constitution is just a peice of paper, then the flag means nothing it's just a symbol, the songs of this great country mean nothing, which includes the Star Spangled Banner, which has to do with that flag, everything our forefathers fought for is just a piece of paper, it doesn't mean anything to them (Bush, Cheney,and whoever is involved) they have their own laws.
I haven't burned a flag Jamie, I said at this point I'd like to burn one, doesn't mean I would.
Jamie do you still believe they are fighting for our freedom in Iraq?
Our freedom was fought for, before this country became one. I believe the people here in this country right now and against Bush and his team are fighting for our freedoms. The ones that get out and protest, not just against a lied about war but about impeachment of the people that were a part of it. Fighting for our freedom is trying to get back what they took from us. Removing the Patriot Act and The Military Commissions Act. The soldiers who are in Iraq etc., should be brought home.
Jamie I know you are a nice person, we just disagree on some things and you love your family, I'm sorry they are there and I wish them back home asap. I too am fighting for my family in generations to come right here. I don't have a gun, and I would never own one. But I have a loud voice and signs!
If you feel better about the flag then go for it, it's your choice.
When we get out and protest there are alot more that honk their horns then flip us off and yell at us. We are not out there against the Soldiers they are doing their job. We are trying to save them, and they still are angry at us, we've had one military person walk up and was upset, they don't get that we are out there for them. I am a member of Code Pink, they are an organization that is trying to get our people back home. If you aren't doing something, you should be out there, speaking out trying to get them home and getting rid of the ones that did all this to us.

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:08:47 GMT

Aside from its' value as an accidental food decoration, the image of Jesus has been standardized as a tall, strawberry-blonde with green eyes. I attended a religious college and once postulated that Jesus nee Yeshua, was only Half-Jewish, on his Mother's side. His father was God. It was left to speculate from current Images of Jesus and current translations of the Greek Religion, what his Dad's ethnicity was? My guess was either Norwegian, Swedish, or possibly Lithuanian. Although there were Teutonic Guards in the area, guarding Peter O'Toole...I mean Roman Officials. One of them might have played God to the half-starved Mary, and Surrogate Angelic Father to the future Redeemer, Gott'n Himmel! Heilige Scheiss!. In the end, it doesn't really matter as people will put their own faces on the both of them...or THEM, if you prefer. Maybe Danish?

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Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:46:08 GMT

Buzz - kudos for the laugh. I think there's a turd in the cat box here that looks like Cheney. In fact, they ALL look like Cheney.

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Buzz — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:29:52 GMT

Sue- Do they SMELL like him, too? There, now that I'm on the FBI watch list (like I wasn't before...), I might as wall just say it; I bet your litterbox collection is smarter and less ethicaly-challenged than Cheney, too.

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Wondering What Is In The Food, New Orleans, LA — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:30:19 GMT

Steve, I didn't find Charlie on the toast this morning, but I swear saw Squeaky Fromme in the jelly.

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Pam, La — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:47:43 GMT

Buzz , if your dog has been gone 3 days maybe the problem isn't Cheney. Maybe your dog thinks you're a freaking idiot loser like the rest of the Keithie's, or maybe he is tired of being sexually abused by you.
Think about it, to have your dog leave because you are an idiot is embarassing.

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:26:02 GMT

Wondering. She's in EVERYBODY"S JELLY. Her wandering ghost body is still trying to find the Colt/Browning .45 Automatic Instruction Booklet that shows her where the 'Safety' is. She had it at her last breakfast before her Assinine...I mean her Assassination Attempt on Gerald Ford. The Family has always been unprepared when it comes to firearms, having better luck with cutlery. I won't tell you who's in your ice cream. (OK...Sadie Mae Glutz!)

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Sue, West Allis, Wisconsin — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:35:35 GMT

Buzz - lol - Don't worry about being on the Watch List. There's an FBI file on me since the Vietnam War Protests. They must be on Volume 16 about now. I'll submit it as evidence of my committment to freedom and democracy should they ever call my patriotism into question.

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C A, Tuscalosa, Al — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:20:30 GMT

Buzz: I saw this in one of the responses to your post about your poor dog. What is a "Keithie"? Is that sort-of like being a right-wing Annie or Shawnie or Rushie or Billie'O except someone is asaying you are a left-wing Keithie. Sorry Buzz, but when I read some of these post on here written by children I need help sometimes trying to figure them out (and I don't need a response from anyone telling me I can't figure anything out, but thanks). By the way Buzz, if I happen to see your dog I'll send it home but will give instructions first that it make a pass through LA to take a bite out of Pam, LA's ass. Rare for me but that one felt good. Any other takers?

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say what, Denver — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:45:28 GMT

Did anybody see what Coulter told O'riley last night? She said that she hopes Edwards get killed by terorists. Does that make any sence anymore? Does even get what she said? she HOPES he get killed during an terrorist attack means that has do be another terrorist attach in the USA right. And she hopes for that? O' Riley didn't do anything, are guy's in the media so taken by her that none of them put her in her place? Now you can get fired for maken racial remakes but saying that she hopes we have another terrorist attack so Edwards get killed is ok? I been watching all day for somebody to say anything about it. But either you all missed it or you agree with her. Which one is it here?

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Todd, New Orleans, LA — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:30:41 GMT

say what? - "either you all missed it or you agree with her." - There are more than two options. We could also (1) disagree and not care to comment or (2) disagree but not care because Coulter has very little impact in politics besides perpetually showing she is a moral and ethical deficient who's only skill is ad hominem attacks. No wonder you Kool-Aiders like her. But "you all missed it or you agree with her" is ridiculous on its face. Like the rest of your posts. Can you say anything that isn't ridiculous? Tell the truth . . . you are really FAUX News propagandist and hack David Asman.

Now how about CHENEY PISSING ON THE CONSTITUTION IN PUBLIC? He is a CRIMINAL. Care to address that? Hm?

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Wayne, M'town TN — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:09:16 GMT

"In the end, it doesn't really matter as people will put their own faces on the both of them...or THEM, if you prefer."
One thing we can agree on.

Another is that Anne Coulter is a waste of skin.
Regardless of her politics shes no better as a journalist than Al Franken in my book.
Since I never watch Fox News I only hear about whats said there second hand from forums and blogs like this one, so I generally take that estimation of its worth as a news source with a grain of salt.

I find it more productive to examine leftwing/Liberal news sources then fact check their claims against reliable sources of information. An example would be the "Phosphuric Acid" claim.
Alot of Leftist claims are ridiculous on the face on them, such as Mustard Gas not being a WMD, but Willy Pete being a chemical weapon. Chemistry can't be bent to fit propaganda.
Like Theodore Sturgeon said 90% of everything is crap, thats especially true of modern journalism.

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Terry Columbia, SC — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:04:22 GMT

Wayne - seems like you're putting your own signature spin on 'facts' once again .... along with it's noted property to illuminate via aerial delivery, even Wikipedia identifies white phosphorous (willy pete)as an incendiary/chemical weapon depending on how it's applied. Since it burns at over 2000 degrees and can't be doused with water it's lethal character has several dimensions - it was also used as an anti-personnel weapon in Vietnam (I was there as you recall) and in Iraq as Bob-Pen observed.

Of course mustard gas is a deadly weapon and was used liberally in WWI first by the Germans against the Russians.....very effective in trench warfare.
And quite effective when Saddam used it against the Kurds......but where did he get it in the first place?

It's hard to imagine 'left wing' news sources denying it's lethal nature as a WMD - but it has nevertheless been replaced by far deadlier and more sophisticated chemical weaponry these days, not to mention synthetic biotoxins, etc.

The other fact is it's pretty hard to find journalistic sources that debunk the right-wing crap that passes for news.....I'd think as a self-described political 'centrist' you'd have discovered that in your search for truth. One reason I like Media Matters is their ongoing attempt to actually restore 'fair and balanced' reporting by calling out the right-wingers who are legion on the airwaves - how many does Rupert Murdock have in his back pocket alone???

The rich get richer Wayne - they gladly take it from the left, the right, and even the center. Sooner or later even you will recognize that you're merely a serf and a pawn in the ever-growing corporate feudal empire we call home. That's not science fiction - just a fact.

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Todd, New Orleans, LA — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:30:12 GMT

Wayne - Neither Coulter nor Franken are journalists. They are COMMENTATORS. You can't even get the simple stuff right, can you? Nevermind. Rhetorical. Don't answer that . . . I know right now you are going to get it wrong.

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Buzz — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:47:07 GMT

CA and Sue- Guess I really AM an idiot, because I keep reading the Pam reply, and can't make any connection with what I wrote about the dog-loaf-pinching incident, and either Cheney OR a 'Kiethie'. The sex-with-a-dog idea might be worth pursuing, though- anyone know how I can contact Ann Coultergeist (or, a simmmilarly HOT tomato from, say, LA)?

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Wayne' M'town TN — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:21:51 GMT

"Wayne - Neither Coulter nor Franken are journalists. They are COMMENTATORS. You can't even get the simple stuff right, can you? Nevermind. Rhetorical. Don't answer that . . . I know right now you are going to get it wrong.
Todd, New Orleans, LA (
"

From Websters
"Main Entry: jour·nal·ist
Pronunciation: -n&-list
Function: noun
1 a : a person engaged in journalism; especially : a writer or editor for a news medium b : a writer who aims at a mass audience
2 : a person who keeps a journal
"
Neither are much of anything, the term Journalist is used loosely when refering to either.
Also most if not all News Commentators are also considered to be Journalists.

Now try some Aloe Vera, I hear its good for burns.

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Todd, New Orleans, LA — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:52:51 GMT

Wayne - They are COMMENTATORS. Neither investigates nor gathers original data of any sort which is a journalists job by definition. Also, your deluge of "facts" (read as "bullshit") is a weak tactic too. You often resort to nothing more than an appeal to authority backed with flawed logic. You can shovel all that crap you want, Wayne, but when you can't even get the basic definitions and facts right all you do is look like a fool. Which is fine by me. That is why I largely ignore you. You make a stupid statement and then promptly are corrected by others not drinking the Kool-Aid.

Now how about Cheney violating the Constitution? Nothing to say? No? Didn't thinks so.

Now try some aloe vera. I hear hear is it good for mental masturbation.

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Todd's Bad Fingers, New Orleans, LA — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:12:58 GMT

Come on. Correct the grammar of that last insult. I dare you.

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Wayne, M'town TN — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:27:40 GMT

"Wayne - They are COMMENTATORS. Neither investigates nor gathers original data of any sort which is a journalists job by definition."

Once again.
"Main Entry: jour·nal·ist
Pronunciation: -n&-list
Function: noun
1 a : a person engaged in journalism; especially : a writer or editor for a news medium b : a writer who aims at a mass audience
2 : a person who keeps a journal"

Take note
"b : a writer who aims at a mass audience
"
Now go to Google and check out the book titles under the names Al Fraken and Ann Coulter.

Being a Commentator does not disqualify anyone from being a Journalist as well.
Franken is about as much a Journalist as Micheal Moore is a Documentarian but both fit the respective definitions if you don't hold them to any high standard, and Liberals don't.

Coulter has writen about as much as she's spouted off on TV. She's not very good at but no worse than Franken.

You won't get very far butting heads with Webster's Dictionary.
Perhaps you should read up on how definitions are agreed upon in compiling a dictionary.

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Wayne, M'town TN — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:53:16 GMT

"Wikipedia identifies white phosphorous (willy pete)as an incendiary/chemical weapon depending on how it's applied. Since it burns at over 2000 degrees and can't be doused with water"
You're thinking of Greek Fire. Actually all you have to do to douse WP is derive it of oxygen. You can do that by submerging the effected item in water or covering it with dirt.
While even a lit match can start a fire WP does not produce its own oxygen so unlike dedicated Incendiary bombs its only really effective against such things as fuel and ammo dumps or vehicles loaded with such items.
WP's effect is thermic rather than chemical though it self ignites by a chemical action, once air is is denied it goes out. It can go out on its own with fuel remaining if the crust of fluffy ash that forms cuts off the air it needs.

You can look at the photos of its use in Fallujah and see that the shells airburst with the WP nearly expended before it hits the ground.
As a pyschological weapon its purpose is to make an enemy position untenable.
Arty is not directed at individual human targets, it's directed at the enemy position, just as in Naval warfare they "Fight the Ship" and in aerial Warfare the fighter pilot seeks to bring down the "Enemy Machine". Its a pyschological distintion. Some fighter pilots could not pull the trigger on another human being, but in destroying the "Enemy Machine" death of the enemy pilot or aircrew is incidental.
A rifleman must target individual enemy personel. Even then Riflemen often depise the sniper, even the snipers of his own army.

The RAI claims of WP being used as a Chemical Weapon are false, the very anti-US journalists who first fell for the fake documentary revealed that, they were doctors and recognized that the photos did not match any sort of chemical burns and that for the most part they only showed advanced decomp due to the climate.
I checked around and found that there seem to be no recorded battlefield deaths due to inhalation of the smoke from WP munnitions.

PS
The term "Shake and Bake" mission is a source of confusion, the Shake part is when the WP shakes up the enemy and forces them into the open, the Bake part is when you hit them with HE or frags.
Its like the term "Burn 'em down in the street" or "Light them up", neither of which involves fire.

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Todd, New Orleans, LA — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:19:11 GMT

Wayne, I see that aloe vera is working good as lubrication. Do you know any journalists? I know about 70. I also know about 15 news readers and commentators. In print and broadcast media. THEY know the difference, so why don't you?

Because you are a moron with a bias and an agenda to back traitors. Your chosen methodology is "deluge and semantic dissembling" and like all your brethren, your logic and grip on fact is laughable.

NOTHING YOU CAN SAY WILL CHANGE COULTER AND FRANKEN FROM COMMENTATORS TO JOURNALISTS. Why? Because you are WRONG AGAIN. I don't give a damn whether you believe it or not. This is merely to let others who might accidentally buy your nonsense that it is indeed nonsense at the fundamental level of definition, yet alone the garbage logic.

Take your long winded bullshit and peddle it to someone who doesn't know that you are full of it. Go ahead, keep being wrong. You prove my point that Neocons are brainwashed fascist idiots.

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Wayne, M'town TN — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:14:13 GMT

" Do you know any journalists? I know about 70. "
I only know about four personally but have met about thirty at various times over the years and a Family member has been a professional Journalist for over forty years, Writing for one of the Oldest and most respected News Papers in the US for most of that time.

The Definition of Journalist inludes those who write for a mass audience, both Franken and Coulter do that as well as act as Commentators.

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Wayne, M'town TN — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:21:26 GMT

"Some journalists also interpret the news or offer opinions to readers, viewers, or listeners. In this role, they are called commentators or columnists.
"
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos088.htm

Got it yet Sherlock?